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    Quote Originally Posted by rodsky View Post
    People keep forgetting that mathematics and simulations exist.

    If we are inaccurate, then these programs must be working incorrectly...

    Celestia: Home

    Stellarium

    Sky Charts, Free Astronomy software , Celestial atlas

    Yet they DO work, and for the past 5 years that I've been using them, not a single one has produced any error in terms of predicting planetary/asteroid and cometary paths.

    Dili man gud mo kabalo mogamit niani, mao nga sige nalang mo'g guess-guess or hype-hype, and feed other people of hyped up false information. Kung kabalo lang mo mogamit ug astronomy software, you'd find yourself laughing at your own wrong assumptions of how things move in space, how things gravitate towards one another, and how truly small the earth is with respect to the cosmos.

    -RODION
    Wa man ko nag guess-guess or hype-hype.. And I know how to use those softwares.. But still.. Can it explain what will happen? None.. Zero.. No one knows what will happen because those softwares can only simulate the alignment.. Not what will happen..

    Naka quote man gud ka sa akong reply.. I said inaccurate because it can't answer the question "What will happen". I'm not saying inaccurate that it won't align of course it will if that shows in those simulation softwares.. It's just that no one can answer these questions unless that time comes.. What I'm trying to say is "Just wait and see"..

  2. #42
    Try this:

    2012 | Universe Today

    This might answer your questions about 2012.. I'm not agreeing on this but might answer your questions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by markykoy View Post
    Wa man ko nag guess-guess or hype-hype.. And I know how to use those softwares.. But still.. Can it explain what will happen? None.. Zero.. No one knows what will happen because those softwares can only simulate the alignment.. Not what will happen..

    Naka quote man gud ka sa akong reply.. I said inaccurate because it can't answer the question "What will happen". I'm not saying inaccurate that it won't align of course it will if that shows in those simulation softwares.. It's just that no one can answer these questions unless that time comes.. What I'm trying to say is "Just wait and see"..
    You are assuming of course that anything out of the ordinary will happen. Has anything happened to Earth this December? No? ... then we can forecast with near accurate certainty that nothing will happen next December and the next and so on and so forth. We can forecast alignments and we have the math to know that these alignments will do nothing to affect the Earth short of an act from God. Saying you do not agree and that "we never know what is going to happen" is not science ... thus doesn't belong here.

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    daghan posibility mahitabo.. wala kahibaw dili na diay ta kaabot og 2012 kay inig 2011 mag nuclear war na..

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    from our level of knowlege of the universe , i could be enough to understand it , from our achievement , most nasa mission was done accurately.

    this predictions were done hundreds years ago / ot thousand of years ago by mayans.
    during those times , its all guess work.

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    Murag nagkalami na ang discussions da . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by markykoy View Post
    Try this:

    2012 | Universe Today

    This might answer your questions about 2012.. I'm not agreeing on this but might answer your questions.
    informative sad....

  7. #47
    so, unsa man jud? moalign jud? hehehehe... unya kung moalign, mayabag na ning earth? ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by vern View Post
    You are assuming of course that anything out of the ordinary will happen. Has anything happened to Earth this December? No? ... then we can forecast with near accurate certainty that nothing will happen next December and the next and so on and so forth. We can forecast alignments and we have the math to know that these alignments will do nothing to affect the Earth short of an act from God. Saying you do not agree and that "we never know what is going to happen" is not science ... thus doesn't belong here.
    I'm not saying that anything will happen out of the ordinary when that time comes.. I'm saying that "We don't know what WILL happen".. Can't you see the difference? It could be something extraordinary, it could nothing, it could be anything.. No one can answer yet.. That's my point.. Science could explain it but it's all theories as of the moment.. Not one can answer the effect yet. Not you, Not me, not even NASA.. Can't you see a lot of theories came out of nowhere? Planet X will crash the earth on 2012, galactic alignment causes effect to the sun and will reach at its peak to release waves that can trigger dormant super volcanoes.. Etc etc etc..

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    Quote Originally Posted by markykoy View Post
    I'm not saying that anything will happen out of the ordinary when that time comes.. I'm saying that "We don't know what WILL happen".. Can't you see the difference? It could be something extraordinary, it could nothing, it could be anything.. No one can answer yet.. That's my point.. Science could explain it but it's all theories as of the moment.. Not one can answer the effect yet. Not you, Not me, not even NASA.. Can't you see a lot of theories came out of nowhere? Planet X will crash the earth on 2012, galactic alignment causes effect to the sun and will reach at its peak to release waves that can trigger dormant super volcanoes.. Etc etc etc..
    You didn't get the point. This is a science thread and being such, discussions should be FACT based (i.e. "we know", not "we don't know") rather than based on "things we don't know about" or "things we don't know will happen or not". Science is about data gathering, analysis of said data, and arriving at conclusions/answers based on the said analysis. As of the moment, the data we have tells us something--NOT nothing! So unless you have DATA to inject in the discussion, you're simply wasting words in this discussion. This is the reason why you are highly encouraged to STOP that point of conjecture, and stick to FACTS.

    -RODION

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    what ever hapens. .

    il be ready

    theres nothing to be afraid of. .

    if that would hapen then so be it. .

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