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  1. #31

    Quote Originally Posted by pinky09 View Post
    aw..mu sad...prof lng bro..pakit.a me

    hehehe .. lingaw ko, proof daw bitaw bro...



    pero i think. it is our faith who believed in Him.. lahi2 lang guru atong version..

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    there is a mistranslation of the greek word 'parthenos' to translate Isaiah 7:14.

    here's what the verse says:

    Isaiah 7:14 Therefore the Lord himself will give you a sign: The virgin will be with child and will give birth to a son, and will call him Immanuel.

    The confusion arose when the Greek Septuagint used the greek word 'parthenos' to translate Isaiah 7:14. This word, in Greek, does denote a sexually pure woman, and was the inspiration for the gospellers myth of the Virgin birth.

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    in the Hebrew scripture, the word actually used is "almah", which if translated in english, simply means "young woman", not VIRGIN WOMAN. that's a little Bible history for you. so no, Jesus wasn't born out of a virgin woman.

  3. #33
    Quote Originally Posted by skoilhp View Post
    maybe He visited long time friends ug mga disciples, students and followers niya didto... or probably He got an invitation from someone of great status there

    sayang lng wa pa digital camera ug video cam sauna hehehe... pero naa daw mga secret evidences sa mga secret events niya didto, naa sa mga secret monasteries didto pero secret lng daw hehehe

    so mao diay ang founder sa new age movement lives in india? am i right?

  4. #34
    Quote Originally Posted by chad_tukes View Post
    there is a mistranslation of the greek word 'parthenos' to translate Isaiah 7:14.

    here's what the verse says:

    Isaiah 7:14 Therefore the Lord himself will give you a sign: The virgin will be with child and will give birth to a son, and will call him Immanuel.

    The confusion arose when the Greek Septuagint used the greek word 'parthenos' to translate Isaiah 7:14. This word, in Greek, does denote a sexually pure woman, and was the inspiration for the gospellers myth of the Virgin birth.

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    in the Hebrew scripture, the word actually used is "almah", which if translated in english, simply means "young woman", not VIRGIN WOMAN. that's a little Bible history for you. so no, Jesus wasn't born out of a virgin woman.

    false theology ra na mr atheist! mo buhat kaha na ug dogma ang santo papa kung dili pa na tinoud
    you know what , Dogmas are revealed by the holy spirit through the pope and the church, so it cant error!

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    Ever seen "The Life of Brian"? Monthy Phyton movie ni siya. Its a comedy but it asks a lot of interesting questions. Its interesting because it shows how things were like at the period, how things were ripe for the emergence of the whole christianity thing. People just tend to kinda ignore it because the whole thing is a comedy.

    Does Jesus exist? Probably. That question really isnt as important tho. The read question is weather that Jesus is anything like he is being portrayed as. The thing about legends is that they are elevated to pedestals. As visible figures, they suddenly gain a number of virtues. So...

    Assuming Jesus exists, is he anything like he is portrayed to be by the Church? Probably not. Not entirely anyway.

  6. #36
    Quote Originally Posted by bungot25 View Post
    false theology ra na mr atheist! mo buhat kaha na ug dogma ang santo papa kung dili pa na tinoud
    you know what , Dogmas are revealed by the holy spirit through the pope and the church, so it cant error!
    the Pope and his dogmas are not infallible. the Bible is not infallible. it would be contradicting to say they are infallible when the beliefs are obviously wrong.
    Last edited by chad_tukes; 12-11-2009 at 12:18 AM.

  7. #37
    Quote Originally Posted by skoilhp View Post
    ma Historical or 3 man ka klase ka Jesus... 1 ra ghapon na, si Jesus ghapon na tanan, lain lain lng istorya... pareha ra gud na moingon ka si Erap, makahirap, mutabang sa mga pobre... ang uban sab, sugarol... kaduwa sa majong... ang uban sab moingon nga kumpare ko yan, pero si Erap ghapon na tanan

    no, He was not a nomadic preacher, many people did not understand the real Jesus... mao na daghan kaayo istorya niya, pero gamay ra gyud ang nakabalo about niya, kasagaran mga taga Tibet ug India, ug iyang mga disciples, kaila kaayo ug kinsa si Jesus
    there are 3 kinds of Jesus; i didn't say there were 3 Jesus who existed. there is a difference. kung mu ingon ta nga duna'y tulo ka Hesus nga nilakaw ning kalibutana, it would be different from saying duna'y tulo ka klase nga Hesus. kung basehan nato ang latter, it would connotate which portrayal of Jesus actually lived---ang historical ba or divine. kung mu ingon ta historical, he existed, but question is---was he divine?

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    he was a nomadic preacher. did he stay in a permanent place? no, in fact, he was all over the place.

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    Sa ako nga side is 50 50 ambot!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bungot25 View Post
    false theology ra na mr atheist! mo buhat kaha na ug dogma ang santo papa kung dili pa na tinoud
    you know what , Dogmas are revealed by the holy spirit through the pope and the church, so it cant error!
    Bro Search lang bro kung asa ug unsa nga klase nga religion ang catholicism try a deep research on that matter before ka mo buhi ug estorya research usa para ba dili ta magka debate hehehehe just a suggestion catholic religion is ambot kaw nalay sumpay.... dili ko atheist, dili sab ko christian, but I have A God which is in heaven ....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vien View Post
    Sa ako nga side is 50 50 ambot!
    if you are really serious about your question, you really need to search for the truth if Jesus really existed. one way is asking from this forum or go search from any reliable source you may think... you must act on it and search for it...

    kung duna ky nawagtang, imong pangita-on, dili ang nawagtang mao ang mangita nimo, dba? hehehe...

    or pwd sab kapoy man mangita or impossible man nga makakita ka ug reliable or credible nga source, d pasgdahan lng until nga makit-an ra nimo, bahalag dugay hehe
    Last edited by skoilhp; 12-11-2009 at 06:36 PM.

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