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  1. #171

    @honey89

    if wala kay religion, then who is your god?=) i think to say that God is your god, sayup jud. (para naku lang ha) because God is just a word, a name nga ato gi focus tanan absolutes. but thats all there really is to it. its just a word.

    seek the truth. learn about history and science. if naay god, we dont know kinsa na cya. but it seems clear nga wala gyud.

    a personal relationship with god is just a relationship with yourself.

    that god is a reflection of who you are.

    ka agi napud ko ana. and mao ra ghapon, it failed. and it will gyud because there really is no one there. it is just you.

    think about it.

    =)

    the author of "the jesus i never knew" clearly never knew jesus.

    seek the truth before believing... question everything. =) thank you though sa concern. heheh=) peace

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    Subaya ang logic bro ha kung duna man gani.

    1. Gihimo sa Ginoo si Lucifer.
    2. Nagrebelde si Lucifer hangtod nahimong Satanas.
    3. Naghimo ang Ginoo og tawo
    4. Gitintal ni Satanas ang tawo.
    5. Nakasala ang tawo.
    6. Gipadala sa Ginoo iyang budtong anak
    7. Gipalansang sa krus ang iyang bugtong anak aron ibayad sa sala sa mga tawo.

    Pangutana asa ang logic diha?

    Dili ba dapat si lucifer ang ilansang sa krus?
    Gawas pa wala diay mahibaw daan ang Ginoo , sa iyang pagka Diyos, nga mao ni dangatan sa tanan niyang gihimo?
    Kung ang anak niya maoy magluwas sa tawo sa kasal-anan, dili ba wala na untay sala ang kalibutan?
    Sa akong tan-aw nigrabe pa man hinuon ang pagkamakasasala sa mga tawo.
    Sa ato pa walay pulos ang iyang pagsakripisyo sa iyang anak sa krus.
    Nigrabe pa man hinuon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by godlessandfree View Post
    @honey89

    if wala kay religion, then who is your god?=) i think to say that God is your god, sayup jud. (para naku lang ha) because God is just a word, a name nga ato gi focus tanan absolutes. but thats all there really is to it. its just a word.

    seek the truth. learn about history and science. if naay god, we dont know kinsa na cya. but it seems clear nga wala gyud.

    a personal relationship with god is just a relationship with yourself.

    that god is a reflection of who you are.

    ka agi napud ko ana. and mao ra ghapon, it failed. and it will gyud because there really is no one there. it is just you.

    think about it.

    =)

    the author of "the jesus i never knew" clearly never knew jesus.

    seek the truth before believing... question everything. =) thank you though sa concern. heheh=) peace
    I agree!

    Remember NO RELIGION OR SCRIPTURE IS HIGHER THAN TRUTH!

  4. #174
    Quote Originally Posted by godlessandfree View Post
    @honey89

    if wala kay religion, then who is your god?=) i think to say that God is your god, sayup jud. (para naku lang ha) because God is just a word, a name nga ato gi focus tanan absolutes. but thats all there really is to it. its just a word.

    seek the truth. learn about history and science. if naay god, we dont know kinsa na cya. but it seems clear nga wala gyud.

    a personal relationship with god is just a relationship with yourself.

    that god is a reflection of who you are.

    ka agi napud ko ana. and mao ra ghapon, it failed. and it will gyud because there really is no one there. it is just you.

    think about it.

    =)

    the author of "the jesus i never knew" clearly never knew jesus.

    seek the truth before believing... question everything. =) thank you though sa concern. heheh=) peace
    I guess it also depends on how you define religion. Religion for me is about rituals and practices, those that are created by humans as a form of reverence or for other purpose. I don't have to be bound by that, because like I said, what matters to me is my faith in God. of course, I read the Bible, and I do understand the need of a ministry, but I don't have to be confined with such religious things for me to say that I truly believe in him or I have faith in Him. There are different ways on how we view faith, and there are different methods on how we worship.

    The Jesus I Never Knew doesn't speak about not knowing Jesus. Again, if you can read it, even its summary, it is simply taking a different look of who Jesus is, na he's not really someone others picture him out to be. It's not that he doesn't know him. Philip Yancey grew up in a church, but for me lang ha, he gave me a whole new glimpse of who he is.

    About questioning, of course, I question things. I cried over things, simply because some truths hurt, but in the end, it's important for me to stand to something I could definitely believe in, and I prefer to believe in God. I guess personal faith is just too difficult to explain to someone who doesn't see you on the same level.

    I don't condemn you, though, for not believing anymore. I respect your decision, just as I respect other people's views here.

    Yes, peace to you

  5. #175
    Quote Originally Posted by Soul Doctor View Post
    Subaya ang logic bro ha kung duna man gani.

    1. Gihimo sa Ginoo si Lucifer.
    2. Nagrebelde si Lucifer hangtod nahimong Satanas.
    3. Naghimo ang Ginoo og tawo
    4. Gitintal ni Satanas ang tawo.
    5. Nakasala ang tawo.
    6. Gipadala sa Ginoo iyang budtong anak
    7. Gipalansang sa krus ang iyang bugtong anak aron ibayad sa sala sa mga tawo.

    Pangutana asa ang logic diha?

    Dili ba dapat si lucifer ang ilansang sa krus?
    Gawas pa wala diay mahibaw daan ang Ginoo , sa iyang pagka Diyos, nga mao ni dangatan sa tanan niyang gihimo?
    Kung ang anak niya maoy magluwas sa tawo sa kasal-anan, dili ba wala na untay sala ang kalibutan?
    Sa akong tan-aw nigrabe pa man hinuon ang pagkamakasasala sa mga tawo.
    Sa ato pa walay pulos ang iyang pagsakripisyo sa iyang anak sa krus.
    Nigrabe pa man hinuon.
    dili sayop daw na kay gusto pa man e test sa ginoo ang mga tao, hahaha. kalooy sa mga tao. ayaw sa ilansang si luci.

  6. #176
    Religion means linking yourself back to God. The born again movement suppressed the use of the word "Religion" to shield their new found faith from the bad reputation of the word Religion. It turn out to be a good marketing step.

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    OT: .. murag nagrebeldi naning bataa ..

    jok2x lang ^_^

  8. #178
    Quote Originally Posted by Soul Doctor View Post
    Subaya ang logic bro ha kung duna man gani.

    1. Gihimo sa Ginoo si Lucifer.
    2. Nagrebelde si Lucifer hangtod nahimong Satanas.
    3. Naghimo ang Ginoo og tawo
    4. Gitintal ni Satanas ang tawo.
    5. Nakasala ang tawo.
    6. Gipadala sa Ginoo iyang budtong anak
    7. Gipalansang sa krus ang iyang bugtong anak aron ibayad sa sala sa mga tawo.

    Pangutana asa ang logic diha?

    Dili ba dapat si lucifer ang ilansang sa krus?
    Gawas pa wala diay mahibaw daan ang Ginoo , sa iyang pagka Diyos, nga mao ni dangatan sa tanan niyang gihimo?
    Kung ang anak niya maoy magluwas sa tawo sa kasal-anan, dili ba wala na untay sala ang kalibutan?
    Sa akong tan-aw nigrabe pa man hinuon ang pagkamakasasala sa mga tawo.
    Sa ato pa walay pulos ang iyang pagsakripisyo sa iyang anak sa krus.
    Nigrabe pa man hinuon.
    bitaw jud ninuon.. wa jud logic lage...

    maskatuuhan pa gud tong sumerian tales of creation kay naa pay logic. katuuhan pa. daghan pag proof nga naoutput.

  9. #179
    Quote Originally Posted by Soul Doctor View Post
    Subaya ang logic bro ha kung duna man gani.

    1. Gihimo sa Ginoo si Lucifer.
    2. Nagrebelde si Lucifer hangtod nahimong Satanas.
    3. Naghimo ang Ginoo og tawo
    4. Gitintal ni Satanas ang tawo.
    5. Nakasala ang tawo.
    6. Gipadala sa Ginoo iyang budtong anak
    7. Gipalansang sa krus ang iyang bugtong anak aron ibayad sa sala sa mga tawo.

    Pangutana asa ang logic diha?

    Dili ba dapat si lucifer ang ilansang sa krus?
    Gawas pa wala diay mahibaw daan ang Ginoo , sa iyang pagka Diyos, nga mao ni dangatan sa tanan niyang gihimo?
    Kung ang anak niya maoy magluwas sa tawo sa kasal-anan, dili ba wala na untay sala ang kalibutan?
    Sa akong tan-aw nigrabe pa man hinuon ang pagkamakasasala sa mga tawo.
    Sa ato pa walay pulos ang iyang pagsakripisyo sa iyang anak sa krus.
    Nigrabe pa man hinuon.
    lots of Biblical non-sense. that whole God-sent-his-son-Jesus-to-save-us-from-our-wordly-sins is pure non-sense. what is God's motive for doing that? he could have just came down on earth and wipe out all our sins. but nope, for some reason he instead decided to send his "son" in a dramatic fashion---being born out of a virgin woman who has never had s3x her entire life. then poof! all of a sudden, this virgin woman's pregnant. how ridiculous.

    as if God wasn't contented, he intentionally made Jesus look stupid and have people crucify him to allegedly redeem us of our sins. fast forward thousands of years later, we as a society are still the same, atrocious people---even ten times worse. if i meet God face to face, i have one question for him---why go through all that hassle?

  10. #180
    Quote Originally Posted by chad_tukes View Post
    lots of Biblical non-sense. that whole God-sent-his-son-Jesus-to-save-us-from-our-wordly-sins is pure non-sense. what is God's motive for doing that? he could have just came down on earth and wipe out all our sins. but nope, for some reason he instead decided to send his "son" in a dramatic fashion---being born out of a virgin woman who has never had s3x her entire life. then poof! all of a sudden, this virgin woman's pregnant. how ridiculous.

    as if God wasn't contented, he intentionally made Jesus look stupid and have people crucify him to allegedly redeem us of our sins. fast forward thousands of years later, we as a society are still the same, atrocious people---even ten times worse. if i meet God face to face, i have one question for him---why go through all that hassle?
    unsa? ang gusto nimo i wipe out sa Ginoo ang tanang sala nga walay baylo? hayahaya gud nimo sa tibuok nimong kinabuhi nga gasigeg buhat ug kabuang ang gusto ra nimo i TY lang ang tanan? ano ka sinuswerte?

    oi ang bayad sa sala, KAMATAYON.

    Rom 6:23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

    kahayahay ra nimo ah imbis ikaw unta ang angay ilansang sa krus tungod sa imong sala pero si Cristo ang nagsakripisyo sa iyang kinabuhi para mapasaylo ka ang imong sala. pero dili man ka mudawat sa gisakripisyo ni Cristo edi kung gusto ka para mabayran ang imong kaugalingong sala ilansang ang imong kaugalingon kaw...

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