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    Quote Originally Posted by dodie View Post
    If you are in a big companies with a large array of programmers in their buildings. You are much like a robot and no freedom to code.
    Lol @ dodie

    Even if you have your own company but you have clients that tells you what to do you are still on the same boat as what you are saying. Not unless innovator ka and ikaw nag finance sa imo project which i don't think you are. Pro If imo work karon kay freelancer ka and nagsunod ra ka sa imo client mao2x ra nang storyaha bai. lol

    I also don't think nga bati ni nga thread. Knowing the current salary trend is a must para makabalo ka if you are being underpaid. I know medyo lisod na ang opportunities karon for work and daghan nag apas sa imo job pero still if u feel dili deserving sa imo sweldo u have your right to choose another job. tabla ra na ug namili ka ug project if freelancer ka.

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    sige balik ta sa trend of salary. sa pagka karon if you have 5 or more years experience. then sa cebu ang job.

    -- it should be more than 50k
    -- dont limit yourself in software development, support work is fun and challenging too. finding bugs and enhancing codes are not easy. Support group have their glory too, not just devs
    -- dont forget to learn business side. If there is mass layoff na mahitabo chances are programmers ang una malay-off not the people who know the business. Developers are replaceable (exceptions to company who is software ang business). Contrary to popular belief, programmers are not hero anymore. Business people are more important than us.
    -- develop soft skills (leadership without title, communication, collaboration, influence, convince, and etc)
    -- (no offense to open source fan) but if you are skilled with oracle, ibm/as400/rpg, sap, microsoft products you are most likely have higher rate than open source guru. To a big company vendors are part of escalation process and we dont have that luxury in open source. So dont stop tinkering open souce for fun but you should have this 'pamugasay' skills.
    -- everything is document in 'My Job went to India and all I got is this Lousy Book'. Must have book for us Amazon.com: My Job Went to India: 52 Ways to Save Your Job (Pragmatic Programmers) (9780976694014): Chad Fowler, Fowler Chad: Books

  3. #303
    Quote Originally Posted by dekarcane View Post
    Lol @ dodie
    I know medyo lisod na ang opportunities karon for work and daghan nag apas sa imo job pero still if u feel dili deserving sa imo sweldo u have your right to choose another job. tabla ra na ug namili ka ug project if freelancer ka.
    Let's just say.... you have a very good position right now, good company, good colleagues. At least you need to have freedom to code to make more innovations.
    Wala ko mosulti nga bati inyung trabaho. We are not talking about freelancer.

  4. #304
    Quote Originally Posted by kamsky View Post
    -- (no offense to open source fan) but if you are skilled with oracle, ibm/as400/rpg, sap, microsoft products you are most likely have higher rate than open source guru. To a big company vendors are part of escalation process and we dont have that luxury in open source. So dont stop tinkering open souce for fun but you should have this 'pamugasay' skills.

    no offense taken..
    pero misnomer na bro.. usahay mashigher rate ang open source.. depends na sa project..

  5. #305
    Quote Originally Posted by dodie View Post
    Let's just say.... you have a very good position right now, good company, good colleagues. At least you need to have freedom to code to make more innovations.
    Wala ko mosulti nga bati inyung trabaho. We are not talking about freelancer.
    Yeah thats the way to say it. dili kay abi nag work ka sa company kay robot na dayon. hehehe dali man gud ma misinterpret sa uban. Anyway i think most of the companies man pud support that idea. Anyway i think off topic na ni. hehe

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluedes View Post
    no offense taken..
    pero misnomer na bro.. usahay mashigher rate ang open source.. depends na sa project..
    Im talking with standard 9-5 work bro . If you're freelancer then you are paid per project.

    the companies that paids really good are big companies such as credit suisse, barclays, citigroup. They dont embrace open source. The companies
    that uses open sources are not that big so chances are employees receive smaller compare to non-open source professionals.

    Few exceptions suchas Google and some technology companies. They can handle themselves so they dont use vendor product.
    Maybe they themselves create their own. But Banks who are not technology company needs tech vendors to support.

    my argument really is, it's neither really open source nor non-open source products that paids well but depends on the company. It's just big companies embraces non-open source products.

  7. #307
    Quote Originally Posted by kamsky View Post
    Im talking with standard 9-5 work bro . If you're freelancer then you are paid per project.

    the companies that paids really good are big companies such as credit suisse, barclays, citigroup. They dont embrace open source. The companies
    that uses open sources are not that big so chances are employees receive smaller compare to non-open source professionals.

    Few exceptions suchas Google and some technology companies. They can handle themselves so they dont use vendor product.
    Maybe they themselves create their own. But Banks who are not technology company needs tech vendors to support.

    my argument really is, it's neither really open source nor non-open source products that paids well but depends on the company. It's just big companies embraces non-open source products.
    aww.. sorry, depends diay na sa company bro.. (which pretty much depends on the projects the company is usually doing.. )

    pero nice, nice input.. wa na lng ko ana mga IT companies.. i'm in a totally different world now.. offworld.. hehehe

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    Quote Originally Posted by dodie View Post
    Let's just say.... you have a very good position right now, good company, good colleagues. At least you need to have freedom to code to make more innovations.
    Wala ko mosulti nga bati inyung trabaho. We are not talking about freelancer.
    dodie,

    give us real example. step by step. what you dont like. waht you like. and in your own experience?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluedes View Post
    aww.. sorry, depends diay na sa company bro.. (which pretty much depends on the projects the company is usually doing.. )

    pero nice, nice input.. wa na lng ko ana mga IT companies.. i'm in a totally different world now.. offworld.. hehehe
    yes bro. I myself loves open source. I even learned from opensource. I started php, perl, java with mysql. loves python so much. but i have to work with oracle, weblogic, ibm, microsoft, adobe. learned to love it too. they are just the same. they pay my bills.

  10. #310
    Quote Originally Posted by kamsky View Post
    yes bro. I myself loves open source. I even learned from opensource. I started php, perl, java with mysql. loves python so much. but i have to work with oracle, weblogic, ibm, microsoft, adobe. learned to love it too. they are just the same. they pay my bills.
    yeah.. it pays the bills.. pero na-boringan na lng jud ko sige na lng business in IT.. puol na kaau..
    so nag-lahi ko and went into bioinformatics.. --> Bioinformatics - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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