Legalize Abortion?

[mannyamador]

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Ang Kapatiran presidentiable steadfast on stand against contraceptives, population control
http://www.prolife.org.ph/news/index...ation-control/

MANILA, OCT. 24, 2009—ONLY Ang Kapatiran standard bearer John Carlos (JC) de los Reyes contested the inclusion of artificial contraceptives in family planning schemes.

During a leaders’ forum at the Asian Institute of Management in Makati City, De los Reyes said he is against the Reproductive Health Bill, which according to the legislation’s proponents will address the issue of unwanted pregnancy, sexually transmitted diseases, malnutrition, unemployment and poverty.

“Being a Catholic faithful, I have to be at the forefront in the fight for life,” said De los Reyes, a low-key councilor and a member of the Gordon clan in Olongapo City.

The three-hour forum was organized to also know the platform and position of presidential aspirants on reproductive health, *** education and other issues. Aside from De los Reyes, the other presidential aspirants include former president Joseph Estrada, Senators Richard Gordon and Francis Escudero, and environment activist Nicolas Perlas.

The five discussed their priorities should they win the government’s highest position in 2010.

Of the five presidential aspirants, only Estrada was fully supportive of the RH bill, and De los Reyes was the sole guest who was totally against it.

“I am against abortion in all cases and the use of birth control pills and condoms even among married couples,” De los Reyes said.

The three others—Gordon, Escudero, and Perlas—expressed reservations on some provisions of the controversial measure.

Organized by the Foreign Correspondents Association of the Philippines and the United Nations Development Program, the forum ended with the five aspirants assuring support for the achievement of the MDGs by 2015.


JC De los Reyes

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[mannyamador]

A humanitarian disaster
Rep. Christopher H. Smith
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...isaster/print/

Even as President Obama was preparing for his trip to meet with Chinese leaders this week, brave witnesses came before the Tom Lantos Human Rights Commission in Washington.

They shared sad tales about how the Chinese government is destroying the lives of women and devastating the traditional Chinese family.

The one-child policy has brought with it the highest female suicide rates in the world, widespread forced-abortion campaigns and rampant ***-selective abortion that is creating a gender imbalance. Since its inception in 1979, the coercive one-child policy has been the worst human rights abuse in the world today.

Few people outside China learn of the cruel social control of the one-child policy. The U.S. China Commission summarized it as a system "marked by pervasive propaganda, mandatory monitoring of women's reproductive cycles, mandatory contraception, mandatory birth permits, coercive fines for failure to comply, and, in some cases, forced sterilization and abortion."

A Chinese woman who becomes pregnant without a government permit faces relentless pressure to abort. Illegal children are denied education, health care and marriage. Fines for bearing a child without a birth permit can be 10 times the average annual income of two parents. Those families that can't or won't pay are jailed or their homes are smashed in or their young child is killed. A woman may be held in a cell. If she flees, her relatives may be detained and beaten. She can be socially ostracized, as her colleagues, and neighbors will be denied birth permits. If the woman is by some miracle still able to resist this pressure, she may be physically dragged to the operating table and forced to undergo an abortion.

The World Health Organization reports more than 500 female suicides per day in China. It is the only country in the world where the female suicide rate is higher than the male - three times higher than for males, in fact.

The result of this policy is unprecedented in human history, where women are psychologically wounded, girl babies fall victim to ***-selective abortion because males are valued more, and most children grow up without brothers or sisters, aunts or uncles or cousins.

Our Nobel Prize-winning president, it seems to me, has a moral duty and sacred responsibility not to demote, trivialize or dismiss these outrageous crimes against women and children. The secretary of state set a dangerous precedent when she said, en route to Beijing for her first visit, that human rights won't "interfere" with peddling U.S. debt or issues related to climate change.

I believe the Chinese government would respond if the president were to speak out in defense of human rights in China. Beijing is sensitive to how it is viewed by the rest of the world. Its heightened global influence in the world and its new model for authoritarian regimes throughout Asia and Africa provide all the more reason for us to stand up for the rights of the Chinese people.

It is both complicit and unnecessary that the Obama administration lavishly funds - to the tune of $50 million - organizations, including the U.N. Population Fund - that partner with China's National Population Planning Commission.

This should not be a partisan issue. On June 10, 1998, at a hearing I chaired, the late Rep. Tom Lantos, California Democrat, said: "There are few crimes against human beings which are more horrendous, more despicable, more outrageous than the practice of forced abortion and forced sterilization. Such brutal violations of human rights must be condemned across the political spectrum, and you and I have stood together through the years in condemning them."

I ask the president to consider the appeal of Wujian, a Chinese woman victimized by forced abortion who at great risk told her story to the world - the same story as millions of Chinese women. She testified behind a screen at a hearing of the Lantos Commission in Washington on Nov. 10:

"The room was full of moms who had just gone through a forced abortion. Some moms were crying, some moms were mourning, some moms were screaming, and one mom was rolling on the floor with unbearable pain. ...

"Then I kept saying to [the abortionist] ... 'how could you become a killer by killing people every day?'...

"She also told me that there was nothing serious about this whole thing for her. She did these all year. She also told me that there were over 10,000 forced abortions in our small county just for that year, and I was having just one of them. . . .

"Finally, she put the big, long needle into the head of my baby in my womb. At the moment, it was the end of the world for me and I felt even time had stopped. . . ."

Wujian told us that when the first procedure failed, they moved to a surgical abortion with scissors and a special vacuum machine:

"I did not have any time to think as this most horrifying surgery began by force. I could hear the sound of the scissors cutting the body of my baby in my womb. . . .

"Eventually the journey in hell, the surgery, was finished, and one nurse showed me part of a bloody foot with her tweezers. Through my tears, the picture of the bloody foot was engraved into my eyes and into my heart, and so clearly I could see the five small bloody toes. Immediately the baby was thrown into a trash can. . . ."

Silence in the face of this barbaric Chinese government behavior, Mr. President, is not an option.

Rep. Christopher H. Smith is a New Jersey Republican.

"The greatest destroyer of love and peace is abortion, which is war against the child.
The mother doesn't learn to love, but kills to solve her own problems.
Any country that accepts abortion is not teaching its people to love,
but to use any violence to get what they want." -- Mother Teresa of Calcutta

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[AmorsoloX]

oi.wala lagi ni gicover sa media ang RH-bill lately.. saon ta man, naa pa man gud other hot areas nga i cover ang media.. nga pwede birahan sa sa politicians and other power hungry institutions (ex. catholic church officials)


tsk tsk tsk...

[AmorsoloX]

there would be no abortion if only people where more educated/informed/empowered...

dapat kamao mogamit mga tao contraceptives para wala unwanted pregnanacies...

having S*x is not immoral.. but being ignorant of its consequences is...

kung naa isulod, dapat kabalo unsay pwede mogawas... kung may itinanim, may aanihin

ngano lage in enter...

ang naka daot pud, kay mga pari, hilabtonon kaau.. gusto sila nga ang ila ra jud paagi itudlo which by the way is not very effective and relies on guesswork. naa lagi education.. biased pud kaau.. not the whole truth pud gitudlo..

no to unnecessary abortion..
no to poverty...
yes to informed choice..
yes to RH-bill...

[cebulifer]

sakto gyud ka amorsolo...

nganong ning enter!

[mannyamador]

dapat kamao mogamit mga tao contraceptives para wala unwanted pregnanacies...

It's time you get better informed. Increased contraceptive usage leads to an increase in unwanted pregnancies and an increase in demand for abortion.

The evidence is clear. See below:

• Habit Persistence and Teen ***: Could Increased Access to Contraception have Unintended Consequences for Teen Pregnancies?
  http://www.econ.duke.edu/~psarcidi/teensex.pdf
  
  
  The persistence in sexual activity is such that policies that affect access to
  contraception will have very different effects in the short run than the long run.
  Our results suggest that increasing access to contraception may actually increase
  long run pregnancy rates even though short run pregnancy rates fall. On the other
  and, policies that decrease access to contraception, and hence sexual activity,
  are likely to lower pregnancy rates in the long run.
  
  
• Contraception – It’s time to stop ducking the issue
  http://www.noroomforcontraception.co...t/view/106/57/
  
  
  According to the study Trends in Premarital *** in the United States, 1954-2003,
  the increase in premarital *** amongst a group of teens turning 15 during the
  years 1964-1973 “may be partly due to increased availability of effective
  contraception (in particular, the pill), which made it less likely that *** would lead
  to pregnancy.” (Finer, 2007)
  
  
• Increased access to contraception not linked to decrease in numbers of unplanned pregnancies, abortions
  http://www.news-medical.net/?id=20761
  
  
  The belief that increased access to contraception will “reduce rates of unintended
  pregnancy and abortion” has “intuitive appeal, but the data prove otherwise,”
  Susan Wills, associate director for education for the U.S. Conference of Catholic
  Bishops’ Secretariat for Pro-Life Activities, writes in a Washington Post letter to
  the editor in response to a Post opinion piece by William Saletan, science and
  technology reporter for Slate magazine.
  
  
• Guttmacher Institute Study Casts Doubt on Contraception Use Reducing Abortions
  http://www.lifenews.com/nat5579.html
  
  
  But, Dr. Michael New, a University of Alabama political science professor, writes at National Review Online that Guttmacher’s own study shows how contraception doesn’t reduce the abortion numbers.
  
  “The link between abortion rates and access to contraception is not as clear as the Guttmacher report might indicate. Furthermore, Guttmacher’s own research suggests that there is little reason to believe that contraception subsidies would do much to affect abortion rates,” he explains.
  
  New says “there exists no consensus on the correlation between the availability of contraception and the incidence of abortion.”
  
  “In fact, in 2003, Guttmacher released an article in ‘International Family Planning Perspectives’ that showed simultaneous increases in both contraceptive use and abortion rates in the United States, Cuba, Denmark, Netherlands, Singapore, and South Korea,” New points out.
  
  
  £6 Million Government Reduction Program Resulted in More than Twice as Many Teen Pregnancies
  http://www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2009/jul/09070904.html
  
  
  A scheme to reduce teenage pregnancies that cost British taxpayers £6 million ($9.8 million US) has backfired, with girls in the program ending up more than twice as likely to become pregnant than those in the general population. The Young People’s Development Programme (YPDP) cost £2,500 ($4,085 US) per person and involved giving teenagers *** education and advice about contraception. At the end of the project a total of 16 percent of those involved became pregnant compared with just 6 percent in a comparison group.
• The Role of Contraception in Increasing Abortion
  By Ruben Obregon
  http://www.noroomforcontraception.co...d-Abortion.htm

Wake up to reality. Teaching people about contraceptives doesn't prevent unplanned pregnancies. In fact, doing so increases the likelihood of unplanned pregnancies.

That's one more reason to reject the stupid, useless, and dangerous RH/Abortion Bill (HB 5043).



More info on abstinence and purity at
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NO TO THE COERCIVE, TOTALITARIAN RH/ABORTION BILL (HB 5043)!
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["yanix"]

where is the love?


stop abortion!

[AmorsoloX]

so what do you propose instead of the RH-bill.. nothing? go back as it was?

all i see here is a person saying $e>< is bad... ang bad ra ana is kung dili ka kamao to do it safely..

if people want to do it, let them do it... as long as willing sila mo face sa responsibilities..

kanindot anang contraceptives dah.. you get to enjoy the good thing without consequences..

$e>< is good... immoral ra ka kung imo butangan malisya..


mas maau pa mo gamit condom or pill kay sa rythm method.. mas gamay pa chance sa unwanted pregnancy... you cant always correctly guess when fertile and when dili..

no to abortion, use contraceptives.. presence of mind.. always bring the rubber.. ayaw padala sa biga..

[AmorsoloX]

dili ko matingala ngano naa mabuntis maski nag gamit daw condom.. saon man ning uban.. wala may ma feel.. so tangalon.. biga moments bah.. saon, lisud man control ang lami... naa pud uban.. di kamao unsaon pag gamit ang pill, and sometimes mka limot pud nga wala na ni effect ang iya gi take..

dapat educated.. pero kanang education nga tarong jud..ayaw ng haphazard.. haphazard education is more dangerous than no education..

[mannyamador]

all i see here is a person saying $e>< is bad

No one said s3x is bad per se. You are putting words into other peoples' mouths. Try reading and UNDERSTANDING what's posted before commenting.

so what do you propose instead of the RH-bill.

1. Provide funding and institutional support for more and better-equipped maternal health and obstetric facilities. Greater access to these will greatly reduce maternal and infant mortality, unlike the RH/Abortion Bill which won't help at all.
   
   
2. Provide funding and institutional support for more trained personnel to man these health centers.
   
   
3. Ban all abortifacient contraceptives.
   
   
4. Provide funding and institutional support for abstinence education in schools since this is the most effective type of reproductive health education. No one, however, should be forced to attend such classes. Parents may opt out if they wish.
   
   
5. Provide funding and institutional support for the promotion of Natural Family Planning (NFP) among married couples that need to space births.

Take note that I have said this before. But it seems you have conveniently ignored this.

you cant always correctly guess when fertile and when dili..

You DON'T guess with modern NFP. The "rhythm" method is NOT NFP. You really must educate yourself about what NFP really is.

NFP is 99%-100% effective. It is far more effective than the condom. More infomration on NFP Effectiveness is at: https://www.istorya.net/forums/politi...ml#post4168363




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