tnx for your reply Sir. I was a member of Kiwanis way back in college but the chapter was really not that active so I left the group. THe only group that I am into right now is my airsoft team and thats it. There is I think something different about being a Mason. The thought of being a member of something soo secretive but soo renowned and with some other people "feared", the way they help each other and how the brotherhood made a mark in history politically and religiously is very overwhelming. I think I need to go back to the cebu lodge.