Any Business Is Better Than Your Call Center Job

[silverado]

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hala ui na unsa naman world... lingaw lang ko basa sa mga arguments sa mga tawo uban with facts uban kay mao2x ra...

it would be best kana self-proclaimed datu dire nga thread share sad daw mo sa inyo secrets para kita tanan ma datu, dili lang ta maghinambog ba.... give back to the world by sharing your knowledge that made you become what you are today...

or maybe the crab mentality is still up and running till now.. mao na walay asenso mga tawo kay iyahay ra og bira sa mga tawo na naa sa babaw... instead of pulling people down below and helping them to be on top...

beh, beh, beh, i dare the rich ones to step up and share... hmmm if indeed business is far better than call center job...

Hoooooyyyyyy asa na mo BUSINESSMAN.... step up and share kuno oooooiiiiii...

Those who are preaching financial independence, who is with his "BUSINESS" for 2 years, cyaro duha ka tuig na wala pa gihapoy milyon..... i think you have to re-assess if tinuod nga makahatag sila ug financial freedom.

I say those who are self-proclaimed datu diri, i don't believe it... show us the fruits of your labor and not just say "i own this, i own that, i have this, i have that... without any proof it will be hard to believe.....

With proof, we will then look at you with awe, drop jaw and say.....he is a good businessman, i will follow his lead and pick up some of his best practices so i can be also successful myself.

I CHALLENGE YOU!

I am a skeptic, i take your statement with a grain of salt. If you can't provide proof, MAAYO PA ANG MGA TAGA UNO NINYO, they flashes their cars. (true or not at least naa sila gipakita)

[silverado]

can i comment on this thread.. i can say sayop ang perception oir basin nasayop lang ug title sa ani thread.. kabalo mo, there are people who are meant to be in business and people who are meant to be employees.. kung asa ang swerte sa tao, ad2 sya dapat.. i know people who are employees that are successful in their jobs.. they became high ranks in the company that they work for.. as a businessman, i can say na it's not being easy being an employee because i tried it one's and i am very bad at it.. that's why i went into business which i can say i am good at it.. beiing a call center agent isn't bad and doesn't mean that the job is less than having a business.. there are some business i know na maka ingun ko na mas maayo pa ang kita sa call center.. bottom line is that it doesn't matter whether you have a business or you are an employe.. be proud that atleast in your life, you are doing something rather than just being a BUM and being idle.. if it makes you happy being just an employe or a call center agent, then so be it and if you are proud being in business, then don't try to brag so much about your accomplishment.. keep quiet nalang jud.. those who are really accomplish are the one's who doesn't comment or say much.. i don't know if those who say they have a business really do have one kay so far sa ako na basa sa mga thread, wa pa ko nakita na maka ingun ko na naa jud ni sya negosyo....sorry if naka offend ko ha.. this is what i have observed so far..

I totally agree with you sir, kay kung gusto pa "sila" motabang sa mga call center agents, it will be much better if they will enlighten us of a business opportunity and not "any business is better than your call center job"

like, hoy mga call center agents, if ganahan mo mo invest sa inyo na save naay nindot nga negosyo, i will help you build and make it grow kay daghan ko knowlege ani nga field, i bet daghan interesado kung unsa na nga negosyo, dili lang taga call center.

is it offensive hell NO.
Is it helpful very helpful.

[lorenzoleo]

Hoooooyyyyyy asa na mo BUSINESSMAN.... step up and share kuno oooooiiiiii...

Those who are preaching financial independence, who is with his "BUSINESS" for 2 years, cyaro duha ka tuig na wala pa gihapoy milyon..... i think you have to re-assess if tinuod nga makahatag sila ug financial freedom.

I say those who are self-proclaimed datu diri, i don't believe it... show us the fruits of your labor and not just say "i own this, i own that, i have this, i have that... without any proof it will be hard to believe.....

With proof, we will then look at you with awe, drop jaw and say.....he is a good businessman, i will follow his lead and pick up some of his best practices so i can be also successful myself.

I CHALLENGE YOU!

I am a skeptic, i take your statement with a grain of salt. If you can't provide proof, MAAYO PA ANG MGA TAGA UNO NINYO, they flashes their cars. (true or not at least naa sila gipakita)

Take this as a word from a "mere salesman". And I know you will not believe in me(given nana). Wealthy people doesn't drove fancy cars, they love to save and invest, they live ordinary lives, they live below their means and they do anormal things.

Bisan unsa pana kadak.a ang imu income from business or job, kung dili ka kahibaw mu practice what I have just mentioned above, you will never ever become wealthy.

[Hot Ice]

Tinood, daghan gyud negosyo nga mas gamay pag kita and mas hago pa ang kugi kaysa sa isa ka call center agent.

Ako lagi kauban diri nakapatukod nag internet cafe, and ang isa kay lodging. Matud pa nila nga dli gyud na nila mabuhat kung wala sila sa call center (sa ila previous job) pa sila kay gamay sweldo. So unsa may naka bati sa pagka call center employee?

Parehas sa giingon ni silverado, pakita mog proof dira. ayaw cge ingon nga mao ni mao na. kay pwede raman ta patakag storya diri.

Kana sad IMG, so you say commission na inyu madawat diba? Nag trabaho ra gyud diay gihapon ka sa IMG. I mean, you're actually working for them. Sila nag hatag nimu sa imu commission. And the more mu kugi ka, although mudako imu na earn, you're actually making the owner richer as well. It's not like naa kay imu kaugalingon nga business nga kung mukugi ka mudako imu business/establishment/shop.

[Anydowro]

OT ko gamay ha, pero di ba kapoy ang magcall center agent? basig mao ingon sila dili pang longterm kay mayataps sayo kay kulang tulog

naay morning shift pareha nako... pasangil og eskwela2x so normal ra kaayo gamay lng sweldo

[AmorsoloX]

Take this as a word from a "mere salesman". And I know you will not believe in me(given nana). Wealthy people doesn't drove fancy cars, they love to save and invest, they live ordinary lives, they live below their means and they do anormal things.

Bisan unsa pana kadak.a ang imu income from business or job, kung dili ka kahibaw mu practice what I have just mentioned above, you will never ever become wealthy.

agree ko on this.. hehehe.. kanang mag drive fancy cars, jewelries. is like saying nga "kidnap me".. and also pagbantay anang BIR.. kita sila nga naa ka something, initan jud ka if dili ka mo share sa imo blessings.. hehehehe..

except siguro anang below their means.. hehehe.. to enjoy life, increase your means..

[AmorsoloX]

And clearly you haven't read my post as well...
Didn't I acknowledge the two types of capital? I don't think you get what I'm driving at. Balik2x ta ani, pero okay lang no problem as long as we get our points across right.
My point is, ingon ka start a business from nothing. It's clearly a wrong statement. 'Cause although naka ingon ka na "pila ra man ng license oi and cash bond.." that's clearly something right?
And yes, probably nag borrow ka money to get that license and cash bond, but remember that's still part of the capital. only thing is di lang sya asset k liability sya. naa baya na sa marketing. capital liability, i believe that's what it's called. Mao na cge ko argue na you really can't start a business with nothing, because nothing baya is something that has no quantitative value, no substance, no importance...
And I didn't say na you said ikaulaw ang trabahante. I merely pointed out the fact that you look down on employees, saying that we don't use our talents, our imagination, etc..
In effect, that's just like saying that all those lawyers, engineers, whatever that you were saying who is employed under you is not using their talents, their imagination, etc.. tsk, tsk.. what would they say about that when they read your post?
Tell this to their face:
"mas labaw jud kanunay nimo ang tao nga nagsweldo nimo.. if wala siya, wala ka sweldo.... "
oi, that's coming from you na ha.. using your words...
There's absolutely nothing wrong with being an employee... You have a business, you clearly need them. So, why say "dili magamit ang imu full potential kung trabahante ra ka.."
In that essence, it's safe to conclude na your businesses are going to fail because your employees are not using their full potential, and they don't have imagination and talent..
You said so yourself, you're not hands on. you leave that to your employees. figure that out.

ahm. i didnt borrow money for that.. somebody paid that for me.. for his/her business interest, (well, im happy nga gi recognize nila ako talents.. hehehe) .. ang ako ra gyud gasto is pamilite pero grabe napud pati kana imu kwentahon.. hmm. lawyer ka no? look at the essence not the technicalities.. think big.. always look at the big picture first before going into the details..

the professionals recognize the authority of who is paying them.. they know that their paycheck comes from the employer even if that employer is a college drop out.. and dont forget, you as an employee is always replaceable..

i stand my ground nga dili magamit imo full potential kung trabahante ra ka.. even if manager imo position.. simply because you arent exposed to all aspects of the business, and you have nothing to lose if the establishment fails except your job which you can look for in other companies.. and also, your responsibities and duties are only to those that you are being paid for.. (you might also think about the time spent on your job can be spent on other activities)

im not hands on.. why should i? i have people doing the things that needs to be done.. my job is to make businesses that are self sustaining.. not running them.. i dont need my employees to use their whole potential. why should i? that would create power bases on the companies i own, and also they have to spend energy on other parts of their lives except work diba?.. i limit what they know to what they need to know.. if ganahan sila magnegosyo ila. go. as long as dili sila mo competensya. better, if mocooperate sila.. il help them start their own..

it might interest you that my first business is already 5 years operational using my formula ( i copied this from other businessmen) .. my other businesses are 4 year old and most are still 3 years old.. although i still have new projects going on.. i call them "babies"- nindut tana i advertise ako biz dre pero nah... basin naa tga- BIR, initan napud ko..

what i mean of "nothing" is no money on my part.. i think OT na ta.. we should put this one under my thread starting a biz with nothing..

kung manarbaho ka. i advise kanang industry nga gusto nimu sudlan kung magnegosyo nka.. gain contacts ang study how the company works from the inside.. being an employee is what i consider the safe way. but the rewards are limited.. pagnegosyo lang kung isog jud mo.. it aint fun and games...

[Hot Ice]

Wealthy people doesn't drove fancy cars, they love to save and invest, they live ordinary lives, they live below their means and they do anormal things.

Not really..

Unsay pasabot nimu fancy cars? dli cguro exotic cars like the Enzo or unsa pa. Basin luxury cars like sa BMW, Merc, or kana mga Jap SUVs?

Kanang mga Gaisano, Zobel de ayala, henry sy and iyang mga anak, kay nindot man kaayo na silag sakyanan. Cge ari lang sa ta sa local; naa man ko mga kaila nga tag iyag mga tindahan sa may downtown area then nindot man pud og mga sakyanan.

Parehas sa topic title, dli cguro ta angay mag generalize oy kay dli man gyud tanan. Or, daghan maigo nga dli mao. Dapat ato discuss diri Any Business Is Better Than Your Call Center Job otherwise create a new topic nalang then didto ta mag discuss. Nindot man pud padayon kay daghan man pud ta makat.on. Dli lang gyud angay diri nga topic.

However, if someone wants to continue to discuss why they could say that "Any Business Is Better Than Your Call Center Job", then show proof. Show us details why you concluded such.

[lorenzoleo]

Not really..

Unsay pasabot nimu fancy cars? dli cguro exotic cars like the Enzo or unsa pa. Basin luxury cars like sa BMW, Merc, or kana mga Jap SUVs?

Kanang mga Gaisano, Zobel de ayala, henry sy and iyang mga anak, kay nindot man kaayo na silag sakyanan. Cge ari lang sa ta sa local; naa man ko mga kaila nga tag iyag mga tindahan sa may downtown area then nindot man pud og mga sakyanan.

Parehas sa topic title, dli cguro ta angay mag generalize oy kay dli man gyud tanan. Or, daghan maigo nga dli mao. Dapat ato discuss diri Any Business Is Better Than Your Call Center Job otherwise create a new topic nalang then didto ta mag discuss. Nindot man pud padayon kay daghan man pud ta makat.on. Dli lang gyud angay diri nga topic.

However, if someone wants to continue to discuss why they could say that "Any Business Is Better Than Your Call Center Job", then show proof. Show us details why you concluded such.

Bai tanawa lang sad ilang networth compare sa price sa car.
Below there means gihapon ang price ana.

If they gain 1Billion income more likely they spend around in millions only for their personal expense.
Below their means gihapon

[Hot Ice]

Bai tanawa lang sad ilang networth compare sa price sa car.
Below there means gihapon ang price ana.

If they gain 1Billion income more likely they spend around in millions only for their personal expense.
Below their means gihapon

imu giingon is:

Originally Posted by lorenzoleo
Wealthy people doesn't drove fancy cars, they love to save and invest, they live ordinary lives, they live below their means and they do anormal things.

So kano ako gipang mention dli na sila matawag og wealthy diay? Mao ako pasabot is dli lang gyud ta mag generalize kay daghan kag maigo nga dli mao.

And, kana ako mga kaila nga naa mga negosyo dira sa downtown area, ubos ra kaayo na sila compared anang mga millionares nga akong gipang mention pero mga nindot man pud og auto.

Amu isa ka officer diri sa ako call center gi trabahoan naka luxury car pa gani, to think employee lang na. Sa isa ka call center LANG.