View Poll Results: Should abortion and abortifacients be legalized through the RH bill?

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  • Yes

    13 18.57%
  • No

    57 81.43%
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  1. #1291

    Quote Originally Posted by mannyamador View Post

    Why does it have to come from me? Those are the facts. She said it and her order follows it. It proves my point. The Church and its organizations DOES take in the children for adoption. Abortion is never necessary.
    it has to come from you.. kaw gud anti-abortion.. so instead of ipa abort nila ang bata, hatag nlang nila sa imu.. evrybody is happy.. happy sila kay dili sila magbuhi sa bata.. happy pud ka kay wala gi abort ang bata.. win-win situation bah..

    why man the church pa? why shoudnt you do it? i really hate people who say something then letting others do it.. if you preach something, then you should be practicing it.. a leader must not give an order that he/she is not willing to perform..


    OT lang ha... why dili ko mosalig sa church
    binuang na man ng church intawn oi.. sa kadaghan sa ato love offerings gamay ra moadto sa mga orphanages.. mas dako pa budget ang papintal sa simbahan kay sa orphanage.. tsk tsk tsk.. daghan jud mga religious leaders gusto ra pagwapo.. why did the church say we should help and donate para sa victims sa mga bagyo then wala sila nagpagawas ila kaugalingon na kwarta? mangau pa man jud donations... kanang mga pare nga nindut sakyanan mas dghan pa sila tana na tabangan kung nagdonate pa sila kay sa mo palit worldly things..

  2. #1292
    Kalooy noh, kung ako sa una pag mabdos sa akong mama naku unya gipa abort ko niya for a certain reason. Wa unta ko diri sa kalibutan karon. Ok ra naku kung ma rape ko unya ma mabdos ko. Wa may labot ang bata. For me, dili jud na burden imong anak nimo. Wa ta kahibawo, ma presidente atong anak or mao ray maka luwas nato.

  3. #1293
    Quote Originally Posted by AmorsoloX View Post
    it has to come from you.. kaw gud anti-abortion.
    The Catholic Church is anti-abortion as well, and as a plain, ordinary Catholic I am part of the Church.

    If there were no ordinary Catholics, the Church would not be able to provide its many critical social services -- including adoption services and orphanages. Since I contribute to the Church and participate in it, I AM doing something to fight abortion and provide adoption services. Now, if the Church will adopt and care for children (and it DOES), then it proves my point. Simple logic. As long as facilities for adoption are provided by the organization of which I am a participating member, your argument falls apart.

    Besides, your premise is wrong to begin with. Whether or not someone adopts, abortion is still wrong. it solves absolutely nothing, The existence or non-existence of adoption facilities doesn't change that. Simple logic.

    Your entire concept of right and wrong based on "effectiveness" is self-contradictory. How do you judge if something benefits people? Following YOUR logic, what is a "benefit" for some may not be seen as a benefit by others. So your entire idea of "effectiveness" also falls flat.

    No. Moral relativism is irrational and illogical. We must have OBJECTIVE STANDARDS for morality.

    why did the church say we should help and donate para sa victims sa mga bagyo then wala sila nagpagawas ila kaugalingon na kwarta?
    The Church is already using its personnel and facilities to help. It is asking its members to help. But by attacking the collection for the typhoon victims you are just making excuses NOT to do your part.

    Mexicanlady has a very good point. Those who claim that it is better for a child to be murdered instead of growing up to be poor is acting as if he can predict the future. Sorry, but crystal balls don't really foretell the future. No one has a right to judge that an innocent child's future is not worth living.

    Instead of focusing on absurdities, lets focus on the reality facing us:

    • HB 5043 promotes a form of abortion.
    • HB 5043 violates human and civil rights.
    • HB 5043 wastes scarce resources.


    As we reject abortion, we should also reject the RH/Abortion Bill (HB 5043)




    October 20, 2009
    Pro-Life Day of Silent Solidarity
    http://silentday.org/

    DEFEND YOUR RIGHTS AND THE LIVES OF THE UNBORN!
    NO TO THE COERCIVE, TOTALITARIAN RH/ABORTION BILL (HB 5043)!

    Please sign the petition AGAINST the Reproductive Health/Abortion Bill (HB5043)
    http://www.petitiononline.com/xxhb5043/
    Last edited by mannyamador; 10-10-2009 at 12:55 AM.

  4. #1294
    Quote Originally Posted by AmorsoloX View Post
    cge, assuming nlang nato nga illegal jud ang abortion and contraceptives...

    unwanted pregnancy.. kay mga katoliko man jud diay mo so pro-life jud..

    balik ta sa rape victim, kinsa lagi mo buhi sa mga bata? ang babae? family sa babae?

    moingon daun mo nga ang government... wat a joke..

    pro-life man mo.. pro life of misery... kaluoy pud sa rape victim.. dili nya kagustuhan, extra burden pa jud sa iyaha and sa iya family..

    practicalay lang gud.. lisud bya jud ibuhi og bata.. especially if unexpected..

    i dont know ngano mka ingon man ni sila nga overpopulation is a myth.. when it stares at them at the face... maybe cguro they dont know what overpopulation is... this is what i call BLIND FAITH..

    question.. willing ka mo adopt and mobuhi sa mga anak sa rape victims? (dili lang nako iapil kadto sa other unexpected pregnancy cases)...
    Bu-ang siguro ang usa ka babaye nga mo decide nga ipa abort ang iya anak kay lagi gi rape, kay lagi unwanted pregnancy kay lagi daghan na ug anak. Yes it's true, lisud jud ibuhi ug bata labi pag pobre ta.Pero maningkamot lang ang tawo mabuhi ra jud. LIFE is sooo precious! I know daghan na kaayong mga babaye nagpa abort. But do you think, they are at peace sa ilang life or wla sila na konsensya after nila gibuhat? I'll ask you this question: If you were one of those babies nga gipang abort, do you think you can enjoy life as what you are enjoying now? Put yourself on the shoes of those innocent babies. KALOOY!!!
    Last edited by mexicanlady; 10-08-2009 at 04:06 AM.

  5. #1295
    As much as I would like to argue with the issue, all I can say is GOOD LUCK nalang sa congressman or senator nga ni sponsor sa bill legalizing abortion. Expect nalang to get another job the next election.

  6. #1296
    Quote Originally Posted by krugs View Post
    As much as I would like to argue with the issue, all I can say is GOOD LUCK nalang sa congressman or senator nga ni sponsor sa bill legalizing abortion. Expect nalang to get another job the next election.

    correct bro!

  7. #1297
    unsa my kapuslanan ana mga prevention of legalizing abortion bill wherein sa carbon lang daan naay dghan mapalit na mga meds for abortion. unya ma risk pa ang life sa naninguha na makuhaan mypa ipa legalize nlng tutal kung mag kinaunsa ang nagpa abort adto man japun dgan sa hospital and dli mnsad balibaran sa hosp!...

    saon pagka relate if wla mo ana na situation besides ang mga sperm donors dli mn kahibalo unsai pros and cons jud ana,nka sulay na diay mo.nag base ramo sa good morale na inyo nahibaw an.

  8. #1298
    Quote Originally Posted by mexicanlady View Post
    Bu-ang siguro ang usa ka babaye nga mo decide nga ipa abort ang iya anak kay lagi gi rape, kay lagi unwanted pregnancy kay lagi daghan na ug anak. Yes it's true, lisud jud ibuhi ug bata labi pag pobre ta.Pero maningkamot lang ang tawo mabuhi ra jud. LIFE is sooo precious! I know daghan na kaayong mga babaye nagpa abort. But do you think, they are at peace sa ilang life or wla sila na konsensya after nila gibuhat? I'll ask you this question: If you were one of those babies nga gipang abort, do you think you can enjoy life as what you are enjoying now? Put yourself on the shoes of those innocent babies. KALOOY!!!

    babies na diay nang fetus?or if done lang after a missed period i dont think matawag nana na baby it doesnt even have a soul hija... and to tell you wlai regrets or even conscience cause its a decision made after timbangon tnan. cguro gnahan ky ka magtan aw ana mga bulingit na bata sa dalan na gpasagdan sa inhan patuyang lang ug panganak. ive seen lot of them and foreign nationals would always look at them and being a filipino maulaw ko oi ky in ana ka patuyang ang mga taw bsta lang kay barugan nya iyang konsenxa nga limpyo. bhala mamurag pusang kalye ang mga bata bsta anak lang kai anak...

  9. #1299
    Quote Originally Posted by butitoy View Post
    wrong solution for the problem.

    its like the water tank overflowing, because the waterpump is still running. you're solution is to plug the overflowing water ..

    solution is to off the motor..

    solution to the unwanted pregnancies is a bit revolutionary.it includes sanitation of

    the media of communication. print.audio.motion and internet.

    in arab countries , this is not a problem. try rape and have urs cut off. try to touch a woman and have your arms cut off.

    bare some skin and be caned or stoned to death.


    ---000---





    contraception will only add-up to the degradation of public morality..it will eventually destroy the family.( as many of the cases today)

    populace will have no fear of AIDS.partner swapping.adultery. pre-marital *** and even prostitution because of it.

    it will be then like Pompei, italy | sodom and gommorah. where population have no

    fear of whatsoever as long as S3X is possible in paid or free
    thumbs up..hands down..hahah )

    grabe..choy jd ni..hehe

    ive never read the RH bill but im going to read it later..

    feeling nako dako kaau ug kahimoan ang media..media can do positive things. super as in. but positive has its own archenemy and that's the negative.. if media is used in a bad way, things happen..ug karon naa na..

    tan-awa ato advertisements..how come a food produc comes with flesh of a woman..ug dghan pa..
    these shows are very suggestive..especially to males..lahi ang maabtan..so mao na moresort on rape and then baby..

    then the media weakly suggest morality thus abortion..

  10. #1300
    Quote Originally Posted by nerimaru View Post
    thumbs up..hands down..hahah )

    grabe..choy jd ni..hehe

    ive never read the RH bill but im going to read it later..

    feeling nako dako kaau ug kahimoan ang media..media can do positive things. super as in. but positive has its own archenemy and that's the negative.. if media is used in a bad way, things happen..ug karon naa na..

    tan-awa ato advertisements..how come a food produc comes with flesh of a woman..ug dghan pa..
    these shows are very suggestive..especially to males..lahi ang maabtan..so mao na moresort on rape and then baby..

    then the media weakly suggest morality thus abortion..
    sakto kaayo ka bro!

    what the heck is the relationship between a HOTTIE MOM in a suggestive pose with a kidde hotdog foodstuff ad?

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