Does a soul or spirit reside in the flesh?

[Existanz]

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here requires consideration. one baptizes conviction as tantamount to something virtuous and laments the use of faith, as merely, a crutch, one must not misconstrue that both are different, they are in the root the same, said differently. cheers!

Agree ko ani...without any shame at all..

[Existanz]

OT: if faith is based on feelings, is it blind

How can it be blind Ms...when in fact in the case of the existence of God I already know that I have no ample proof to convince the dumbest atheist that He exists? Yet despite that I still choose to believe there must be a God somehow...How can this be blindness? If you say that it is because it is not based on logic/proof then conventionally it is true...but I have reason for believing in it therefore you can't accuse me that my faith is baseless though it may appear baseless or illogical to you, it is reasonable enough for me...anymore than I can justify to you why I like chocolate and hate vanilla ice cream; picks dark colored t-shirts against the bright colored ones.

The rest of the story is simply shoring up the dike against the rushing tides...

[jamesmusslewhite]

How can it be blind Ms...when in fact in the case of the existence of God I already know that I have no ample proof to convince the dumbest atheist that He exists? Yet despite that I still choose to believe there must be a God somehow...How can this be blindness? If you say that it is because it is not based on logic/proof then conventionally it is true...but I have reason for believing in it therefore you can't accuse me that my faith is baseless though it may appear baseless or illogical to you, it is reasonable enough for me...anymore than I can justify to you why I like chocolate and hate vanilla ice cream; picks dark colored t-shirts against the bright colored ones.

The rest of the story is simply shoring up the dike against the rushing tides...

There is not an Atheist in this world that can give you verifiable proof that there is no God. They are just blinded by their arrogance that we really really care what they think of us. That is the burden of the cross. I admire your faith and conviction to stand for what you know is right. You have faith, inner peace, and can feel his warmth. They have doubt, misdirection, and do not know that warmth. It is not your fault they can not understand. God chooses us more than we choose him I think. You just can not explain faith to those that do not have it. Those with faith need no explanations we feel it to our core.

[Existanz]

God chooses us more than we choose him I think. You just can not explain faith to those that do not have it. Those with faith need no explanations we feel it to our core.

You know James, sometimes that is how I think about it (emphasized in bold)...I just don't want to be vocal about it since there was a time also I used to abhor that idea. It used to make me mad to imagined God have His own preference when it comes to people...I know we'll going to get the flak out of this but I just want to share though.

I've had my share of time in sticking my middle finger to God in the past...growing up and realizing how bad and ugly the world is- His masterpiece and all the usual stuff that makes us think God was a failure-a big joke; spent much of my time forcing my own way into my existence.

Even though we had the power to decide on our choices, fate it seems is not in our hand...situation after situation just piled up critically eventually it came down with a crash taking you along with it- your whole life in one heap of emptiness and meaninglessness...

Like our parents or home, no matter how far and estranged we are, we think of them whenever we hit rock bottom in our life...like God His mercy and love.

I just found myself opening the Bible...out of hopelessness..there they are the words "Trust the Lord with all your heart and lean not unto your own understanding"...I'm just not sure what comes first- remorse or God's intervention but it seems I was overwhelmed with such remorse never in my entire life I had experience...literally I was on the floor bowled over and crying silly in my room (at least nobody saw me hehehe )...

After that everything just fall naturally, like I just made peace with the world all of the sudden...you know the bunch- church, religion, people, enemies, friends and my parents- my Dad...foremost God..

Even though I'm not a born-again christian, sometimes I do get invited to their worship and I realized that during these 'testimonials' of their (Born-again) faith and conversion, logic and reasons has nothing to do really why one really believes in a God...

Sorry for the OT guys...

[jamesmusslewhite]

You know James, sometimes that is how I think about it (emphasized in bold)...I just don't want to be vocal about it since there was a time also I used to abhor that idea. It used to make me mad to imagined God have His own preference when it comes to people...I know we'll going to get the flak out of this but I just want to share though.

I've had my share of time in sticking my middle finger to God in the past...growing up and realizing how bad and ugly the world is- His masterpiece and all the usual stuff that makes us think God was a failure-a big joke; spent much of my time forcing my own way into my existence.

Even though we had the power to decide on our choices, fate it seems is not in our hand...situation after situation just piled up critically eventually it came down with a crash taking you along with it- your whole life in one heap of emptiness and meaninglessness...

Like our parents or home, no matter how far and estranged we are, we think of them whenever we hit rock bottom in our life...like God His mercy and love.

I just found myself opening the Bible...out of hopelessness..there they are the words "Trust the Lord with all your heart and lean not unto your own understanding"...I'm just not sure what comes first- remorse or God's intervention but it seems I was overwhelmed with such remorse never in my entire life I had experience...literally I was on the floor bowled over and crying silly in my room (at least nobody saw me hehehe )...

After that everything just fall naturally, like I just made peace with the world all of the sudden...you know the bunch- church, religion, people, enemies, friends and my parents- my Dad...foremost God..

Even though I'm not a born-again christian, sometimes I do get invited to their worship and I realized that during these 'testimonials' of their (Born-again) faith and conversion, logic and reasons has nothing to do really why one really believes in a God...

Sorry for the OT guys...

Could not explain it better my self.
I read the book, then ran as far, mean, and fast as I could, but found myself back in the center, right where I had started. I realized I had deserted him, but he had never left me. I just had to come to that spot and point in time before I could see and finally accept it. Thank you for the testimony.

[miyay]

How can it be blind Ms...when in fact in the case of the existence of God I already know that I have no ample proof to convince the dumbest atheist that He exists? Yet despite that I still choose to believe there must be a God somehow...How can this be blindness? If you say that it is because it is not based on logic/proof then conventionally it is true...but I have reason for believing in it therefore you can't accuse me that my faith is baseless though it may appear baseless or illogical to you, it is reasonable enough for me...anymore than I can justify to you why I like chocolate and hate vanilla ice cream; picks dark colored t-shirts against the bright colored ones.

The rest of the story is simply shoring up the dike against the rushing tides...

be at peace, tata, i was not questioning your faith. it was more for my sake. but i can see that you can relate. i have outgrown (fingers crossed) trying to convince others and being defensive of my faith. i love chocolate and hate vanilla ice cream too. to each his/her own

[Existanz]

be at peace, tata, i was not questioning your faith. it was more for my sake. but i can see that you can relate. i have outgrown (fingers crossed) trying to convince others and being defensive of my faith. i love chocolate and hate vanilla ice cream too. to each his/her own

Hahaha...I know you're not Ms..but it's a general question to which perhaps a couple of people had also faced that one...including me.