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  1. #251

    kahinumdum lang ko atong nabasahan nako sa kang Nietzsche man to,,, Conviction is more dangerous than Truth

  2. #252
    Quote Originally Posted by Existanz View Post
    I DON'T KNOW BUT I BELIEVE IT then they have arrived at faith in it's purest form...
    true jud ni. i believe in some things which are beyond logic nor have i experienced them but somehow feels right and true

  3. #253
    OT: if faith is based on feelings, is it blind

  4. #254
    Quote Originally Posted by miyay View Post
    OT: if faith is based on feelings, is it blind
    Technically speaking sis Miyay Faith is blind,,its "hope" in another disguise,,
    for me however blind ones faith is,,, its still ok,,,faith is like a crutch when one does not know yet how to walk,,a scaffold to hold on, 'til the edifice is certain & well constructed.

    what makes faith abnormal is when it clashes with reality, w/ truth, w/ time tested evidence.
    Faith should not clash w/ the laws of nature as well,,if it does then faith is tantamount to hepatoma
    Last edited by Lovely Charm; 10-01-2009 at 05:51 PM.

  5. #255
    Quote Originally Posted by jamesmusslewhite View Post
    Can the concept of soul and flesh be explained in scientific terms as to try to keep religious bias out of the equation?

    Subject Flesh: We are a large carbon based being with 60% water and a massive nerve system connect to a brain. We are in essence a Carbon battery with conductive wiring.

    Purpose for the wiring: If pricked unknowingly with a pin on the heal you brain receives signal from pain receptors, processes information from these receptors and then the evaluated information is sent to various muscles telling you to jump, rub the pained area, and yell at your friend, "Why the hell did you do that!" all in a split second, How? Electric Energy which is stored and contained in the carbon based battery we call the human body.

    When you die everyone loses, even if sealed in a big zip-lock baggie, several grams of unexplained weight loss. Electric Energy has mass, mass has weight.

    What happens to the Electric energy upon death: It appears to exist no longer in the host body. Does it die? No
    One of the basic laws of physics is the law of conservation of energy, which states that energy can not be created or destroyed, it can only be changed from one form to another.

    With the advent of String Theory we can now conceive of infinite dimensions or realities sharing the same space. It would help explain what happens to our Electric Energy upon our death. The energy does not die yet the lose of the weight, of it's removal of mass, dictates that it does exit the body.

    The term to cross over would be correct if the Electric Energy which is our essence, slips into a different dimension or reality, which is layered over our own reality. Heaven and hell just beyond our reach.
    so in other words, are you saying that a soul is an electrical energy trapped in the flesh?

  6. #256
    Quote Originally Posted by Lovely Charm View Post
    Technically speaking sis Miyay Faith is blind,,its "hope" in another disguise,,
    for me however blind ones faith is,,, its still ok,,,faith is like a crutch when one does not know yet how to walk,,a scaffold to hold on, 'til the edifice is certain & well constructed.

    what makes faith abnormal is when it clashes with reality, w/ truth, w/ time tested evidence.
    Faith should not clash w/ the laws of nature as well,,if it does then faith is tantamount to hepatoma
    here requires consideration. one baptizes conviction as tantamount to something virtuous and laments the use of faith, as merely, a crutch, one must not misconstrue that both are different, they are in the root the same, said differently. cheers!

  7. #257
    Quote Originally Posted by jamesmusslewhite View Post
    Can the concept of soul and flesh be explained in scientific terms as to try to keep religious bias out of the equation?

    Subject Flesh: We are a large carbon based being with 60% water and a massive nerve system connect to a brain. We are in essence a Carbon battery with conductive wiring.

    Purpose for the wiring: If pricked unknowingly with a pin on the heal you brain receives signal from pain receptors, processes information from these receptors and then the evaluated information is sent to various muscles telling you to jump, rub the pained area, and yell at your friend, "Why the hell did you do that!" all in a split second, How? Electric Energy which is stored and contained in the carbon based battery we call the human body.

    When you die everyone loses, even if sealed in a big zip-lock baggie, several grams of unexplained weight loss. Electric Energy has mass, mass has weight.

    What happens to the Electric energy upon death: It appears to exist no longer in the host body. Does it die? No
    One of the basic laws of physics is the law of conservation of energy, which states that energy can not be created or destroyed, it can only be changed from one form to another.

    With the advent of String Theory we can now conceive of infinite dimensions or realities sharing the same space. It would help explain what happens to our Electric Energy upon our death. The energy does not die yet the lose of the weight, of it's removal of mass, dictates that it does exit the body.

    The term to cross over would be correct if the Electric Energy which is our essence, slips into a different dimension or reality, which is layered over our own reality. Heaven and hell just beyond our reach.
    your basic assumption: Soul is material
    a basic problem: it is not.

  8. #258
    Quote Originally Posted by The_Child View Post
    here requires consideration. one baptizes conviction as tantamount to something virtuous and laments the use of faith, as merely, a crutch, one must not misconstrue that both are different, they are in the root the same, said differently. cheers!
    labels...

  9. #259
    Quote Originally Posted by The_Child View Post
    your basic assumption: Soul is material
    a basic problem: it is not.
    I was trying to only relate it as simply as possible to show the possible Physics of our life essences. As to explain the unexplained weight loss upon our death. And how our life essence could experance, near death experience, reincarnation, and transcendental travel. So many have a problem with the religious aspect demanding only scientific reasoning.

    As a Christan I believe our soul is much more than just electrical energy. Science does not presently have the ability to begin to understand, measure, or weigh the soul.

  10. #260
    Quote Originally Posted by Egoist View Post
    kahinumdum lang ko atong nabasahan nako sa kang Nietzsche man to,,, Conviction is more dangerous than Truth
    “Convictions are more dangerous enemies of truth than lies.”- Nietzsche

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