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  1. #391

    Quote Originally Posted by nirdle_phogi View Post
    hahaha. nanghambog pa.. be pakit-a daw mi sa imo finished products bro.?
    visit lang sa bigfoot bro... pangitaa ko didto.. pakit-on tika sa mga projects nga nabuhat na nako... or, makakita man siguro ka ani nila inig sulod na nimo sa bigfoot, daghan man LCD diha nag show sa uban nako nga works.

  2. #392
    Quote Originally Posted by pnoize View Post
    under IAFT? tsk tsk...productions that even most of the crew laugh about? another film for bebe pham, eh?

    and has your so-called "achievements" helped the cebu film community? NO. you were simply employed by these companies...so please don't brag about being part of this and that because you simply did nothing to help the film community.

    While Sinebuano, on their own accord and without any financial agenda, is trying to make people aware of Cebuano independent films.
    Of course it did... I helped in teaching the students on how to properly use our equipments here. And some of them are even from cebu.. And i think you know Dwight Buot? He's one of my students before.

  3. #393
    Quote Originally Posted by pnoize View Post
    outside the confines of bigfoot, nobody knew nor talked about the films.

    of course your visitors would praise them, those were good films.

    let me bring back my question, what have you done to help the cebu film community?

    Aside from teaching our students here, wherein some of them are from cebu actually, I don't think there is an existing Film Community here in cebu..... It will be a challenge for you people, there is really nothing we can do to revive the dead... But who knows... maybe you guys have the power to bring it back?

  4. #394
    I'd like to refute the claims of this jerome.manato, that there is no existing film community here in Cebu, as someone who apparently doesn't have the scholarly knowledge of historical heritage of Cebuano cinema. To just have a glimpse of Cebu's Cinema history, please read the Freeman article here

    There is an existing film community here in Cebu, it is small however but substantial nonetheless. Its even recognized by the National Commission of Culture and Arts who relayed information on grants and financial support on eligible projects through its Cinema committee chair Teddy Co.

    pnoize and I are part of this small Cebuano film community and made it our personal priority to keep this community growing without payment, without price-- just pure passion of sharing something we love to others, so that they too can learn to love it as well. And yes some of our works appear to be the work of students because we ARE still students, learning on our own-- as my friend pnoize once put it, students of the University of Hard Knocks. That's where our pride lies, our pure passion. We're not looking to be paid for what we love to do. For fun, for refinement, for the simple joy of art becoming a craft, just doing it and learning how to do it well is the Prize we seek and receive.

    And now our community however small it is now getting stronger. It is being made strong with the efforts of Sir Ron Heri Tan, an 18 year veteran of mainstream Philippine Cinema, who's worked with Ishmael Bernal, Lino Brocka and Cesar Montano, on projects like "Mara Clara", "Esperanza" and his last works the multi-awarded films "Tuhog" and "Panaghoy sa Suba". But most of all, Sir Ron is a Cebuano from Dumanjug who finally realized he belongs where he is needed most, at home in Cebu.

    Our community is made strong also through the efforts of Jerrold Tarug, Publio Briones, Bambi Beltran and Ruel Antipuesto whose obra maestra "Confessional" shot mostly in Cebu, co-produced by ABS-CBN Cinema One, is a majority winner of both the Cinema One Originals and 24th PMPC Star Awards and best film of the 10th Osian Film Festival of Asian and Arabian Cinema.

    Ruel Antipuesto went to the Cannes Film Festival-Short Film Corner this year through his film collaboration "Sabongero" with Janice Perez, shot in Mactan and whose characters and dialogue are purely Cebuano.

    Jerrold, Ruel, Publio even Pnoize and I were once a part of the IAFTV. We learned from the instructors there regarding filmmaking but ony realized the truth, that the craft of filmmaking was something that cannot be taught but can only be learned through experiment and experience.

    And that what the school wanted to teach was things and policies we did not want to practice because it was a betrayal of who we are as Cebuanos and Filipinos and what we ought to do. It isn't just about getting to use the expensive equipment and being able to shoot abroad, but taking pride of who you are as a person, your origins, your culture, and able to celebrate that through Cinema as filmmakers. That was something that the school did not, would not, could not teach and so we went on to learn on our own.

    Cebu has a filmmaking community, it always had a filmmaking community and like anything in life, it experienced death and rebirth, like the rise and fall of the tides, like the coming and going of generations. Now it may be small, but it is growing in both strength and number. If we seem boastful, it is simply because we have passion, we have hope, we have determination and as I previously stated, we have results, good results made by Jerrold, Bambi and others.

    SineBuano will continue doing what it does to help support them and getting the community involved, serving a majority, an island of people to remember their cultural heritage, to rise to the call of the independent filmmaking scene.

    There will be those who would just stand by the sidelines and say nothing can be done-- and there will be those who would step into the fray, support the true-to-the-heart works of others and do something just for the sake of trying to make something happen.

    This jerome.manoto seems to have chosen the former while pnoize and I, SineBuano, have chosen the latter, to do something. It's a small thing now, but small things have the tendency to grow into something bigger. It's the nature of things.
    Last edited by diem; 09-06-2009 at 07:31 PM.

  5. #395
    Quote Originally Posted by diem View Post
    I'd like to refute the claims of this jerome.manato, that there is no existing film community here in Cebu, as someone who apparently doesn't have the scholarly knowledge of historical heritage of Cebuano cinema. To just have a glimpse of Cebu's Cinema history, please read the Freeman article here

    There is an existing film community here in Cebu, it is small however but substantial nonetheless. Its even recognized by the National Commission of Culture and Arts who relayed information on grants and financial support on eligible projects through its Cinema committee chair Teddy Co.

    pnoize and I are part of this small Cebuano film community and made it our personal priority to keep this community growing without payment, without price-- just pure passion of sharing something we love to others, so that they too can learn to love it as well. And yes some of our works appear to be the work of students because we ARE still students, learning on our own-- as my friend pnoize once put it, students of the University of Hard Knocks. That's where our pride lies, our pure passion. We're not looking to be paid for what we love to do. For fun, for refinement, for the simple joy of art becoming a craft, just doing it and learning how to do it well is the Prize we seek and receive.

    And now our community however small it is now getting stronger. It is being made strong with the efforts of Sir Ron Heri Tan, an 18 year veteran of mainstream Philippine Cinema, who's worked with Ishmael Bernal, Lino Brocka and Cesar Montano, on projects like "Mara Clara", "Esperanza" and his last works the multi-awarded films "Tuhog" and "Panaghoy sa Suba". But most of all, Sir Ron is a Cebuano from Dumanjug who finally realized he belongs where he is needed most, at home in Cebu.

    Our community is made strong also through the efforts of Jerrold Tarug, Publio Briones, Bambi Beltran and Ruel Antipuesto whose obra maestra "Confessional" shot mostly in Cebu, co-produced by ABS-CBN Cinema One, is a majority winner of both the Cinema One Originals and 24th PMPC Star Awards and best film of the 10th Osian Film Festival of Asian and Arabian Cinema.

    Ruel Antipuesto went to the Cannes Film Festival-Short Film Corner this year through his film collaboration "Sabongero" with Janice Perez, shot in Mactan and whose characters and dialogue are purely Cebuano.

    Jerrold, Ruel, Publio even Pnoize and I were once a part of the IAFTV. We learned from the instructors there regarding filmmaking but ony realized the truth, that the craft of filmmaking was something that cannot be taught but can only be learned through experiment and experience.

    And that what the school wanted to teach was things and policies we did not want to practice because it was a betrayal of who we are as Cebuanos and Filipinos and what we ought to do. It isn't just about getting to use the expensive equipment and being able to shoot abroad, but taking pride of who you are as a person, your origins, your culture, and able to celebrate that through Cinema as filmmakers. That was something that the school did not, would not, could not teach and so we went on to learn on our own.

    Cebu has a filmmaking community, it always had a filmmaking community and like anything in life, it experienced death and rebirth, like the rise and fall of the tides, like the coming and going of generations. Now it may be small, but it is growing in both strength and number. If we seem boastful, it is simply because we have passion, we have hope, we have determination and as I previously stated, we have results, good results made by Jerrold, Bambi and others.

    SineBuano will continue doing what it does to help support them and getting the community involved, serving a majority, an island of people to remember their cultural heritage, to rise to the call of the independent filmmaking scene.

    There will be those who would just stand by the sidelines and say nothing can be done-- and there will be those who would step into the fray, support the true-to-the-heart works of others and do something just for the sake of trying to make something happen.

    This jerome.manoto seems to have chosen the former while pnoize and I, SineBuano, have chosen the latter, to do something. It's a small thing now, but small things have the tendency to grow into something bigger. It's the nature of things.
    It's so poetic... But whatever your claims are, as of this moment, there is still no clamor and excitement about a certain film community here in cebu... It's not yet felt. Actually, I know personally some of those people you mentioned above. And I also know how passionate they are about filmmaking. But still, as what one of our mentors here said, that if you wanna pursue filmmaking, you better have a day job... No wonder some of the talented people, Cebuano at that, have to go to Manila...

  6. #396
    Is jerrold, pubs and ruel part of Sinebuano?

  7. #397
    Quote Originally Posted by diem View Post
    I'd like to refute the claims of this jerome.manato, that there is no existing film community here in Cebu, as someone who apparently doesn't have the scholarly knowledge of historical heritage of Cebuano cinema. To just have a glimpse of Cebu's Cinema history, please read the Freeman article here

    There is an existing film community here in Cebu, it is small however but substantial nonetheless. Its even recognized by the National Commission of Culture and Arts who relayed information on grants and financial support on eligible projects through its Cinema committee chair Teddy Co.

    pnoize and I are part of this small Cebuano film community and made it our personal priority to keep this community growing without payment, without price-- just pure passion of sharing something we love to others, so that they too can learn to love it as well. And yes some of our works appear to be the work of students because we ARE still students, learning on our own-- as my friend pnoize once put it, students of the University of Hard Knocks. That's where our pride lies, our pure passion. We're not looking to be paid for what we love to do. For fun, for refinement, for the simple joy of art becoming a craft, just doing it and learning how to do it well is the Prize we seek and receive.

    And now our community however small it is now getting stronger. It is being made strong with the efforts of Sir Ron Heri Tan, an 18 year veteran of mainstream Philippine Cinema, who's worked with Ishmael Bernal, Lino Brocka and Cesar Montano, on projects like "Mara Clara", "Esperanza" and his last works the multi-awarded films "Tuhog" and "Panaghoy sa Suba". But most of all, Sir Ron is a Cebuano from Dumanjug who finally realized he belongs where he is needed most, at home in Cebu.

    Our community is made strong also through the efforts of Jerrold Tarug, Publio Briones, Bambi Beltran and Ruel Antipuesto whose obra maestra "Confessional" shot mostly in Cebu, co-produced by ABS-CBN Cinema One, is a majority winner of both the Cinema One Originals and 24th PMPC Star Awards and best film of the 10th Osian Film Festival of Asian and Arabian Cinema.

    Ruel Antipuesto went to the Cannes Film Festival-Short Film Corner this year through his film collaboration "Sabongero" with Janice Perez, shot in Mactan and whose characters and dialogue are purely Cebuano.

    Jerrold, Ruel, Publio even Pnoize and I were once a part of the IAFTV. We learned from the instructors there regarding filmmaking but ony realized the truth, that the craft of filmmaking was something that cannot be taught but can only be learned through experiment and experience.

    And that what the school wanted to teach was things and policies we did not want to practice because it was a betrayal of who we are as Cebuanos and Filipinos and what we ought to do. It isn't just about getting to use the expensive equipment and being able to shoot abroad, but taking pride of who you are as a person, your origins, your culture, and able to celebrate that through Cinema as filmmakers. That was something that the school did not, would not, could not teach and so we went on to learn on our own.

    Cebu has a filmmaking community, it always had a filmmaking community and like anything in life, it experienced death and rebirth, like the rise and fall of the tides, like the coming and going of generations. Now it may be small, but it is growing in both strength and number. If we seem boastful, it is simply because we have passion, we have hope, we have determination and as I previously stated, we have results, good results made by Jerrold, Bambi and others.

    SineBuano will continue doing what it does to help support them and getting the community involved, serving a majority, an island of people to remember their cultural heritage, to rise to the call of the independent filmmaking scene.

    There will be those who would just stand by the sidelines and say nothing can be done-- and there will be those who would step into the fray, support the true-to-the-heart works of others and do something just for the sake of trying to make something happen.

    This jerome.manoto seems to have chosen the former while pnoize and I, SineBuano, have chosen the latter, to do something. It's a small thing now, but small things have the tendency to grow into something bigger. It's the nature of things.
    If what you call a small community is a group of people of just watch "art" movies, or movies in general and then shoot something (which needs a lot of patience to watch) and say that they are a community... then i can say that me and some of my friends here are also a community... We like to make movies, in fact, we are into FEATURE films... So i guess that made us a community as well?

    By the way, it doesn't mean that some organization like "recognized" your group (as what you mentioned), you are already saying that you are the authority on cebuano films... We know we don't have the "scholarly knowledge" that you refer, but then again.... it doesn't matter how much you learn, it's how much what you apply with what you learn that really matters in making movies......

  8. #398
    Quote Originally Posted by jerome.manato View Post
    Well, i used to work in ABS-CBN before and right now I am part of the crew of a movie shot in Vietnam and China... How about u?

    It's just a shame that they are boasting about bringing back the Cebuano film industry when all they could do is something like this? What a shame...
    bro, i know you work sa international company, BigFoot. since Cebu film industry wala kaayo mga hitech na gamit ug gamay ra ang crewr, so expect nga dili jud pareha sa bigfoot ang mga output. pero paghambog jud nimo na walay kwenta mga films sa cebu..

    Unsa diay imo posisyon sa bigfoot bro? unsa papel nimo kada film sa bigfoot? ikaw ba mo-edit sa vid? ikaw ba director? ikaw ba pinaka-importante na crew sa inyo na kun wala ka, dili mahimo ang project? o basin roadie ra ka?

  9. #399
    Quote Originally Posted by nirdle_phogi View Post
    bro, i know you work sa international company, BigFoot. since Cebu film industry wala kaayo mga hitech na gamit ug gamay ra ang crewr, so expect nga dili jud pareha sa bigfoot ang mga output. pero paghambog jud nimo na walay kwenta mga films sa cebu..

    Unsa diay imo posisyon sa bigfoot bro? unsa papel nimo kada film sa bigfoot? ikaw ba mo-edit sa vid? ikaw ba director? ikaw ba pinaka-importante na crew sa inyo na kun wala ka, dili mahimo ang project? o basin roadie ra ka?
    naa ko sa technical bro... so, kung wala ko, wala pud sila equipments gamiton inig shoot...

    Kasabot ko nga wala kaayo mo mga gamit, pero, naa ko nakit-an nga mga works sa students namo using mga 1CCD nga cameras (handy cam), nindot man gihapon ilahang mga output... Actually bro, naa pud baya nindot nga films nga binuhat sa mga taga cebu... pero most them, kay niagi sa diri sa bigfoot...

  10. #400
    kun walay bigfoot wala man sad tali kay equipments? sakto bah?

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