All About RELIGION Here

[kebotDiNaMute]

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well, some people dont. really.

and they came out FINE...or even better.

heck, some of them were even better before the foreign horde brought them their brand of "religion".

"well, some people dont. really. and they came out FINE...or even better. "

like who? hearsay?

Is this an analogy? example? or you were just not thinking? hmmm

Better on What?

[grovestreet]

GUD POINT!

CAN YOU IMAGONE A WORLD WITHOUT RULES?

That is why these people are protesting because of the RULE. Well gud luck mga peps... try to consider hungerstrike...

those rules or law are all artificial/man made, they are put there because they have no other way to control people. That is the role of religion for society, to control people's minds. The only law that's important to be aware of are natural laws.

[chad_tukes]

The thrill of converting your life pleases him more... and yea its worth it in his eyes... well its gud thing u arent... or else it will be another boring life you are thinking... hmmmm! what du think?

why would it be boring? i do not have any plans of converting anyway. i would need a lot of cuddling before i do that.

[Hellblazer 2.1]

i can't imagine a world without rules. however, i can imagine a world without need for rules. the same is true for religion. i can't imagine a society without religion. but, i can imagine a society without the need for religion. i hope no one may be offended by this.

there is no religion higher than truth.

[Papi_Dradz]

i can't imagine a world without rules. however, i can imagine a world without need for rules. the same is true for religion. i can't imagine a society without religion. but, i can imagine a society without the need for religion. i hope no one may be offended by this.

there is no religion higher than truth.

There it is..... there is no no religion higher than truth.. Nice!

[Existanz]

well, some people dont. really.

and they came out FINE...or even better..

Really? but the scientific survey totally dismiss your assumptions:

Am J Psychiatry 161:2303-2308, December 2004
© 2004 American Psychiatric Association

Religious Affiliation and Suicide Attempt

Kanita Dervic, M.D., Maria A. Oquendo, M.D., Michael F. Grunebaum, M.D., Steve Ellis, Ph.D., Ainsley K. Burke, Ph.D., and J. John Mann, M.D.

OBJECTIVE: Few studies have investigated the association between religion and suicide either in terms of Durkheim’s social integration hypothesis or the hypothesis of the regulative benefits of religion. The relationship between religion and suicide attempts has received even less attention.

METHOD: Depressed inpatients (N=371) who reported belonging to one specific religion or described themselves as having no religious affiliation were compared in terms of their demographic and clinical characteristics.

RESULTS: Religiously unaffiliated subjects had significantly more lifetime suicide attempts and more first-degree relatives who committed suicide than subjects who endorsed a religious affiliation. Unaffiliated subjects were younger, less often married, less often had children, and had less contact with family members. Furthermore, subjects with no religious affiliation perceived fewer reasons for living, particularly fewer moral objections to suicide. In terms of clinical characteristics, religiously unaffiliated subjects had more lifetime impulsivity, aggression, and past substance use disorder. No differences in the level of subjective and objective depression, hopelessness, or stressful life events were found.

CONCLUSIONS: Religious affiliation is associated with less suicidal behavior in depressed inpatients. After other factors were controlled, it was found that greater moral objections to suicide and lower aggression level in religiously affiliated subjects may function as protective factors against suicide attempts. Further study about the influence of religious affiliation on aggressive behavior and how moral objections can reduce the probability of acting on suicidal thoughts may offer new therapeutic strategies in suicide prevention.

[munzter666]

Really? but the scientific survey totally dismiss your assumptions:

Am J Psychiatry 161:2303-2308, December 2004
© 2004 American Psychiatric Association

Religious Affiliation and Suicide Attempt

Kanita Dervic, M.D., Maria A. Oquendo, M.D., Michael F. Grunebaum, M.D., Steve Ellis, Ph.D., Ainsley K. Burke, Ph.D., and J. John Mann, M.D.

OBJECTIVE: Few studies have investigated the association between religion and suicide either in terms of Durkheim’s social integration hypothesis or the hypothesis of the regulative benefits of religion. The relationship between religion and suicide attempts has received even less attention.

METHOD: Depressed inpatients (N=371) who reported belonging to one specific religion or described themselves as having no religious affiliation were compared in terms of their demographic and clinical characteristics.

RESULTS: Religiously unaffiliated subjects had significantly more lifetime suicide attempts and more first-degree relatives who committed suicide than subjects who endorsed a religious affiliation. Unaffiliated subjects were younger, less often married, less often had children, and had less contact with family members. Furthermore, subjects with no religious affiliation perceived fewer reasons for living, particularly fewer moral objections to suicide. In terms of clinical characteristics, religiously unaffiliated subjects had more lifetime impulsivity, aggression, and past substance use disorder. No differences in the level of subjective and objective depression, hopelessness, or stressful life events were found.

CONCLUSIONS: Religious affiliation is associated with less suicidal behavior in depressed inpatients. After other factors were controlled, it was found that greater moral objections to suicide and lower aggression level in religiously affiliated subjects may function as protective factors against suicide attempts. Further study about the influence of religious affiliation on aggressive behavior and how moral objections can reduce the probability of acting on suicidal thoughts may offer new therapeutic strategies in suicide prevention.

bah, pulling out research papers that is barely even recognized.
why dont you dig up a comparative research about religious affiliation and serial killers, the FBI already released a paper detailing the most likely candidates. about what's and where's and the why's about serial killers.

[brownprose]

Was it Christopher Hitchens bro who made a similar comment?

Looks like it or si Dawkins or Weinberg? Heard this words from Dawkins sa iyang documentary "The Root of All Evil." Sorry if I missed to put the credit. Anyways, I get to think they are also right. Religion needs to be told sometimes.

I cannot understand it. If with or without religion, we'd still have some people doing good things and others doing bad things, it seems clear that religion is not the problem but people.

Yes. "But for good people to do bad things, it takes religion.” <--- religion can be enslaving even to the minds of good people -- it gives good people the bad reasons to be good. Example, how many good people forego their rationality for believing that the Bible is the only source of truth in this world? How many good people have given up their marriages simply because the other party/partner is an "unbeliever." If religion is said to ennoble the love between persons, why can't Christians agree to abandon their religion for the sake of love? Mas matibang ba gyud diay ang religion kay sa paghigugma?

[Malic]

Yes. "But for good people to do bad things, it takes religion.” <--- religion can be enslaving even to the minds of good people -- it gives good people the bad reasons to be good. Example, how many good people forego their rationality for believing that the Bible is the only source of truth in this world? How many good people have given up their marriages simply because the other party/partner is an "unbeliever." If religion is said to ennoble the love between persons, why can't Christians agree to abandon their religion for the sake of love? Mas matibang ba gyud diay ang religion kay sa paghigugma?

ka balaknon nimo karon BP.

Agree ko ani. I saw people professing to be Religious , muslims and christians, because they hold the laws of their religion above their love for their children would punish their kids for violating a holy precept, like, for listening to a secular music or talking to a certain person with a different religious background would get a cold shoulder from mom or dad for a month or more as punishment for the violation.

[brownprose]

ka balaknon nimo karon BP.

Hehehe...pwede nata mang harana ani

Agree ko ani. I saw people professing to be Religious , muslims and christians, because they hold the laws of their religion above their love for their children would punish their kids for violating a holy precept, like, for listening to a secular music or talking to a certain person with a different religious background would get a cold shoulder from mom or dad for a month or more as punishment for the violation.

Nice. Get the same observations, too on the side of christianity.