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    Default To understand Science, you must first learn what is Pseudoscience


    Say I had a hard time trying to describe an object, a technique, or process to you. I have difficulty in doing so because I could be concerned that you're not equipped with the means to understand what I'm trying to say. How then could I best describe the object/technique/situation? The answer is, even though I can't describe to you what the situation is, I can STILL describe what it's NOT.

    So using this method, I believe that, those who really want to understand what science is all about, must first understand what it is NOT. And to do that, we have to introduce ourselves to the concept known as "pseudoscience".

    The following is word-per-word exerpt copied from the Wikipedia entry on the subject. I saw it fit to repost here, because it's a good starting point to understand what Pseudoscience is all about. So here goes.

    Pseudoscience is a methodology, belief, or practice that is claimed to be scientific, or that is made to appear to be scientific, but which does not adhere to an appropriate scientific methodology, lacks supporting evidence or plausibility, or otherwise lacks scientific status. The term comes from the Greek root pseudo- (false or pretending) and "science" (from Latin scientia, meaning "knowledge"). An early recorded use was in 1843 by French physiologist François Magendie, who is considered a pioneer in experimental physiology.

    The term is considered by proponents of pseudoscientific ideas to be pejorative, because it is used to assert that something is being inaccurately or deceptively portrayed as science. Accordingly, those labeled as practicing or advocating a "pseudoscience" normally dispute this characterization. There is disagreement among philosophers of science and among commentators in the scientific community about whether there is a reliable objective way to distinguish "pseudoscience" from non-mainstream "science".

    Professor Paul DeHart Hurd argued that a large part of gaining scientific literacy is "being able to distinguish science from pseudo-science such as astrology, quackery, the occult, and superstition". As it is taught in certain introductory science classes, pseudoscience is any subject that appears superficially to be scientific, or whose proponents state that it is scientific, but which nevertheless contravenes the testability requirement or substantially deviates from other fundamental aspects of the scientific method.

    Pseudoscience has been characterised by the use of vague, exaggerated or untestable claims, over-reliance on confirmation rather than refutation, lack of openness to testing by other experts, and a lack of progress in theory development.

    Background

    A typical 19th century phrenology chart. In the 1820s, phrenologists claimed that the mind was located in areas of the brain, and were attacked for doubting that mind came from the non-material soul. Their idea of reading "bumps" in the skull to predict personality traits was later discredited.Phrenology was first called a pseudoscience in 1843 and continues to be widely considered pseudoscience.

    The standards for determining whether a body of knowledge, methodology, or practice is scientific can vary from field to field. There are, however, a number of basic principles that are widely agreed upon by scientists, such as reproducibility and intersubjective verifiability. Such principles aim to ensure that relevant evidence can be measurably reproduced under the same conditions, which allows further investigation to determine whether a hypothesis or theory related to given phenomena is both valid and reliable for use by others, including other scientists and researchers. It is expected that the scientific method will be applied throughout, and that bias will be controlled or eliminated, by double-blind studies, or statistically through fair sampling procedures. All gathered data, including experimental/environmental conditions, are expected to be documented for scrutiny and made available for peer review, thereby allowing further experiments or studies to be conducted to confirm or falsify results, as well as to determine other important factors such as statistical significance, confidence intervals, and margins of error.

    In the mid-20th century Karl Popper suggested the criterion of falsifiability to distinguish science from non-science. Statements such as "God created the universe" may be true or false, but no tests can be devised that could prove them false, so they are not scientific; they lie outside the scope of science. Popper subdivided non-science into philosophical, mathematical, mythological, religious and/or metaphysical formulations on the one hand, and pseudoscientific formulations on the other—though without providing clear criteria for the differences. He gave astrology and psychoanalysis as examples of pseudoscience, and Einstein's theory of relativity as an example of science. More recently, Paul Thagard (197 proposed that pseudoscience is primarily distinguishable from science when it is less progressive than alternative theories over a long period of time, and the failure of proponents to acknowledge or address problems with the theory. Mario Bunge has suggested the categories of "belief fields" and "research fields" to help distinguish between science and pseudoscience.

    Philosopher of science Paul Feyerabend has argued, from a sociology of knowledge perspective, that a distinction between science and non-science is neither possible nor desirable. Among the issues which can make the distinction difficult are that both the theories and methodologies of science evolve at differing rates in response to new data. In addition, the specific standards applicable to one field of science may not be those employed in other fields. Thagard also writes from a sociological perspective and states that "elucidation of how science differs from pseudoscience is the philosophical side of an attempt to overcome public neglect of genuine science."

    Skeptics, most prominently represented by Richard Dawkins, Mario Bunge, Carl Sagan and James Randi, and the Brights movement consider all forms of pseudoscience to be harmful, whether or not they result in immediate harm to their adherents. These critics generally consider that the practice of pseudoscience may occur for a number of reasons, ranging from simple naïveté about the nature of science and the scientific method, to deliberate deception for financial or political gain. At the extreme, issues of personal health and safety may be very directly involved, for example in the case of physical or mental therapy or treatment, or in assessing safety risks. In such instances the potential for direct harm to patients, clients, the general public, or the environment may be an issue in assessing pseudoscience. (See also Junk science.)

    The concept of pseudoscience as antagonistic to bona fide science appears to have emerged in the mid-19th century. Among the first recorded uses of the word "pseudo-science" was in 1844 in the Northern Journal of Medicine, I 387: "That opposite kind of innovation which pronounces what has been recognized as a branch of science, to have been a pseudo-science, composed merely of so-called facts, connected together by misapprehensions under the disguise of principles".

    Identifying pseudoscience

    A field, practice, or body of knowledge might reasonably be called pseudoscientific when

    (1) it is presented as consistent with the accepted norms of scientific research; but

    (2) it demonstrably fails to meet these norms, most importantly, in misuse of scientific method. Subjects may be considered pseudoscientific for various reasons;

    Karl Popper considered astrology to be pseudoscientific simply because astrologers keep their claims so vague that they could never be refuted, whereas Paul R. Thagard considers astrology pseudoscientific because its practitioners make little effort to develop the theory, show no concern for attempts to critically evaluate the theory in relation to others, and are selective in considering evidence. More generally, Thagard stated that pseudoscience tends to focus on resemblances rather than cause-effect relations.

    Science is also distinguishable from revelation, theology, or spirituality in that it offers insight into the physical world obtained by empirical research and testing. For this reason, both creation science and intelligent design have been labeled as pseudoscience by the mainstream scientific community. The most notable disputes concern the effects of evolution on the development of living organisms, the idea of common descent, the geologic history of the Earth, the formation of the solar system, and the origin of the universe. Systems of belief that derive from divine or inspired knowledge are not considered pseudoscience if they do not claim either to be scientific or to overturn well-established science.

    Some statements and commonly held beliefs in popular science may not meet the criteria of science. "Pop" science may blur the divide between science and pseudoscience among the general public, and may also involve science fiction. Indeed, pop science is disseminated to, and can also easily emanate from, persons not accountable to scientific methodology and expert peer review.

    If the claims of a given field can be experimentally tested and methodological standards are upheld, it is not "pseudoscience", however odd, astonishing, or counter-intuitive. If claims made are inconsistent with existing experimental results or established theory, but the methodology is sound, caution should be used; science consists of testing hypotheses which may turn out to be false. In such a case, the work may be better described as ideas that are not yet generally accepted. Protoscience is a term sometimes used to describe a hypothesis that has not yet been adequately tested by the scientific method, but which is otherwise consistent with existing science or which, where inconsistent, offers reasonable account of the inconsistency. It may also describe the transition from a body of practical knowledge into a scientific field.

    The following have been proposed to be indicators of poor scientific reasoning.

    Use of vague, exaggerated or untestable claims

    * Assertion of scientific claims that are vague rather than precise, and that lack specific measurements.

    * Failure to make use of operational definitions (i.e. publicly accessible definitions of the variables, terms, or objects of interest so that persons other than the definer can independently measure or test them). (See also: Reproducibility)

    * Failure to make reasonable use of the principle of parsimony, i.e. failing to seek an explanation that requires the fewest possible additional assumptions when multiple viable explanations are possible (see: Occam's Razor)

    * Use of obscurantist language, and misuse of apparently technical jargon in an effort to give claims the superficial trappings of science.

    * Lack of boundary conditions: Most well-supported scientific theories possess well-articulated limitations under which the predicted phenomena do and do not apply.

    * Lack of effective controls, such as placebo and double-blind, in experimental design. (see Scientific control)

    Over-reliance on confirmation rather than refutation

    * Assertions that do not allow the logical possibility that they can be shown to be false by observation or physical experiment (see also: falsifiability)

    * Assertion of claims that a theory predicts something that it has not been shown to predict[39]. Scientific claims that do not confer any predictive power are considered at best "conjectures", or at worst "pseudoscience"

    * Assertion that claims which have not been proven false must be true, and vice versa (see: Argument from ignorance)

    * Over-reliance on testimonial, anecdotal evidence, or personal experience. This evidence may be useful for the context of discovery (i.e. hypothesis generation) but should not be used in the context of justification (e.g. Statistical hypothesis testing).

    * Pseudoscience often presents data that seems to support its claims while suppressing or refusing to consider data that conflict with its claims. This is an example of selection bias, a distortion of evidence or data that arises from the way that the data are collected. It is sometimes referred to as the selection effect.

    * Reversed burden of proof. In science, the burden of proof rests on those making a claim, not on the critic. "Pseudoscientific" arguments may neglect this principle and demand that skeptics demonstrate beyond a reasonable doubt that a claim (e.g. an assertion regarding the efficacy of a novel therapeutic technique) is false. It is essentially impossible to prove a universal negative, so this tactic incorrectly places the burden of proof on the skeptic rather than the claimant.

    * Appeals to holism as opposed to reductionism: Proponents of pseudoscientific claims, especially in organic medicine, alternative medicine, naturopathy and mental health, often resort to the "mantra of holism" to explain negative findings.

    Lack of openness to testing by other experts

    * Evasion of peer review before publicizing results (called "science by press conference"). Some proponents of theories that contradict accepted scientific theories avoid subjecting their ideas to peer review, sometimes on the grounds that peer review is biased towards established paradigms, and sometimes on the grounds that assertions cannot be evaluated adequately using standard scientific methods. By remaining insulated from the peer review process, these proponents forgo the opportunity of corrective feedback from informed colleagues.

    * Some agencies, institutions, and publications that fund scientific research require authors to share data so that others can evaluate a paper independently. Failure to provide adequate information for other researchers to reproduce the claims contributes to a lack of openness.

    * Assertion of claims of secrecy or proprietary knowledge in response to requests for review of data or methodology.

    * Failure to progress towards additional evidence of its claims. Terence Hines has identified astrology as a subject that has changed very little in the past two millennia. (see also: Scientific progress)

    * Lack of self correction: scientific research programmes make mistakes, but they tend to eliminate these errors over time. By contrast, theories may be accused of being pseudoscientific because they have remained unaltered despite contradictory evidence. The work Scientists Confront Velikovsky (1976) Cornell University, also delves into these features in some detail, as does the work of Thomas Kuhn, e.g. The Structure of Scientific Revolutions (1962) which also discusses some of the items on the list of characteristics of pseudoscience.

    Personalization of issues

    * Tight social groups and granfalloons, authoritarian personality, suppression of dissent, and groupthink can enhance the adoption of beliefs that have no rational basis. In attempting to confirm their beliefs, the group tends to identify their critics as enemies.
    * Assertion of claims of a conspiracy on the part of the scientific community to suppress the results.
    * Attacking the motives or character of anyone who questions the claims (see Ad hominem fallacy).

    Use of misleading language

    * Creating scientific-sounding terms in order to add weight to claims and persuade non-experts to believe statements that may be false or meaningless. For example, a long-standing hoax refers to water as dihydrogen monoxide (DHMO) and describes it as the main constituent in most poisonous solutions to show how easily the general public can be misled.
    * Using established terms in idiosyncratic ways, thereby demonstrating unfamiliarity with mainstream work in the discipline.


    Entire entry here: Pseudoscience - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Hopefully, this intro to Pseudoscience can aid your understand of what science, by first knowing what science is NOT.

    To help your understanding, here are some excellent videos from Bill Nye on Pseudoscience:

    YouTube - Bill Nye the Science Guy - 69: Pseudoscience 1/3
    YouTube - Bill Nye the Science Guy - 69: Pseudoscience 2/3
    YouTube - Bill Nye the Science Guy - 69: Pseudoscience 3/3

    Additionally, 10 celebrities who harmfully promote pseudoscience
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdO2tgkacrQ
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVs4j3HLmY4
    You have been warned.

    -RODION
    Last edited by rodsky; 08-23-2009 at 10:57 PM.

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    ambi nako science na ang mangita ug ghost using unsa na mga technology on energy and magnetic chuchu ug pangita ug cold spots...


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    Gikapoy ko og basa

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    Quote Originally Posted by grovestreet View Post
    Nice link, thanks.

    -RODION

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    the definition from the first post is valid. for now, anyways.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hellblazer 2.1 View Post
    the definition from the first post is valid. for now, anyways.
    Say there was a valid way to process meat so that it would be more tender and palatable. We shall call this process cooking. It consists of putting meat over fire, or putting meat in a container and putting the whole thing over fire, so as to tenderize and make the meat easier to eat. So now, we have established what the definition of cooking is.

    Now, say, someone comes up to me and says, "Hey, your method of cooking is now outdated, there's now a new process of cooking food without having to use fire. You simply have to put in these tablets into the container containing the meat, and after a few minutes, the meat will come out tender and palatable."

    Ok, so now we have another method of cooking without having to use fire. But, if you analyze this carefully, did we really redefine the meaning of cooking? The process of adding those tablets into the meat, to "process it so that it would be more palatable" is still, in essence, a form of cooking. Ergo, the definition has NOT changed, despite the changes in the METHOD used.

    Same thing with the definition of science and pseudoscience. Science is a process, and pseudoscience is also a process/way of thinking that is opposite that of science. By saying that the definition of pseudoscience is only valid FOR NOW, is like saying that the term "cooking" is only valid until a new method of cooking comes along. Unfortunately this ain't so--just as cooking is cooking, no matter what method is utilized (because the objective, i.e. to process the meat, is still essentially the same), the definition of pseudoscience as described in the first post will still be valid, because we're talking about a process and NOT a "class", "set" or "collection" of things that are under the banner of pseudoscience.

    -RODION
    Last edited by rodsky; 08-25-2009 at 06:38 PM.

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    naa lang ko sulti kanag mostly diba gikan man sa pseudo science before it actually become part of science.. everything should be verified and studied...

    kanang naa sa pseudo science karon pwede sad na mapart sa science in the coming generation diba?

    para nako conceited ra kaayo ang uban scinetist mu-sulti na dili science ang uban because they lack verfication or dili sila pwede ma-studihan...

    the problem with natural science is it assumes that there is a law for everything...

    fields that dont have that kind law that governs them are considered to be unscientific..

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    Quote Originally Posted by unsay_ngalan_nimo View Post
    naa lang ko sulti kanag mostly diba gikan man sa pseudo science before it actually become part of science.. everything should be verified and studied...

    kanang naa sa pseudo science karon pwede sad na mapart sa science in the coming generation diba?

    para nako conceited ra kaayo ang uban scinetist mu-sulti na dili science ang uban because they lack verfication or dili sila pwede ma-studihan...

    the problem with natural science is it assumes that there is a law for everything...

    fields that dont have that kind law that governs them are considered to be unscientific..
    You are talking about domains. This is, I guess, the domain of science. There are things in this world that are really mysterious indeed but science tends to debunk things that we attached some wonderful meaning into. The fact is Science is just the way the world works. Finding and understanding the laws on how the universe operates is simply how science works and is the reason for all the things, "technology" which we all take for granted now.

    Quote Originally Posted by unsay_ngalan_nimo View Post
    the problem with natural science is it assumes that there is a law for everything...
    Think about this, is this really a problem? Is this way of thinking hindering progress? Well, no... Understanding the laws of the universe leads is what makes the human race different from animals. I think this problem is experience by non-scientists.

    Quote Originally Posted by unsay_ngalan_nimo View Post
    fields that dont have that kind law that governs them are considered to be unscientific..
    As a scientist myself, I was once a strong science defender. I thought that everything in this universe even is emotion is governed by science. But this is indeed true. Take for example, religion/spirituality. Religion/Spirituality is not and will never be scientific because it just never is. I am strong Catholic follower myself. For me this is just my way of finding meaning in my life. And it has worked for me, I have survived all these years with this thinking or shall we say way of life. You might say that most of the things I am saying in this paragraph are unscientific. You are right. It is unscientific because it doesn't belong to science. The problem is if you try to use science to prove which belief is right using science which I believe is wrong.

    Science is the pursuit of truth, knowledge, and understanding of the universe. It can be meaningful to some and maybe harsh for others. But it is the reason why we have our iPods, Laptops, satellites, etc.. I am sorry if I may have swayed away from the forum rules. I love science which is why I am really trying to pursue it at the highest level possible. The only thing important (I believe) is that we all keep an open mind and respect everyone, scientifically speaking. If you don't know anything about that subject or field or if you don't have the necessary background or training, then don't try to explain or appear you know it very well. People who do this normally lead to this so called, "pseudoscience."

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    @fritz

    oh i love science too.. you probably have a background on natural science...

    just because there is no law governing that field does not mean there is none, isnt it?

    science is a path to knowledge... there are few scientist that did study the existence of the soul.. love, consciousness and other things that are actually believe to have no rules nor laws that govern them...

    like any other truth science is relative over time.... its true until another disproves...

    and there are some scientists that do have background on natural science thread on "the unscientific" on their study...

    how thick or thin is the line between scientific and unscientific?

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