When our Filipina Girls became a Tourist Spot

[pigrah]

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@pigrah .. i'm not springfield nor anybody else, im fingolfin, but you seem to not get the point. This TS's is opinion-based and hence biased and hence he is self-righteous. Why say such things when he doesnt even know what he is talking about.


.. if we put this thread into context - the thread title alone is biased and generalizing that FILIPINAS = prostis.

.. oh, btw, im not against prostitution coz i can't even help them ( prostis ) improve their lives. I HAVE NO RIGHT TO JUDGE THEM. Nor either of us.

hi!
fingolfin, this is a forum.
we are here to express ourselves and discuss something..and we are allowed to give out our personal opinions.
I believe that is what the TS did.
he voiced out what he saw and all he wants is for people to know the truth and maybe do something about it.

is that so hard to understand? balika kuno ug basa iyang opening post. wala cya ni ingon tanan filipinas this or that. he wrote na naa cya kaila who would get naked in front of the cam etc etc...daghan man gani ko nahibal-an na ang parents mismo ang mutulod sa ilang anak to marry a foreign man or husbands na i convince ilang wives to do so. the foreign man comes to PH, builds her a huge house and let the husband be thier driver. ang asawa muna-og lang igka gabii pra mudulog sa pinoy na bana...and all these because of poverty sa atong nation...see?

and oh btw, im not judging anyone.
thats why i said we must consider the people around us as well instead of solely pointing our fingers on prostitutes.

[fingolfin]

.. yes pigrah, this is a forum and we are allowed to say out our opinion, that's what graphicare's point is all about OPINION-BASED. And what's more he is judging those prostitis as being bad and evil ... read his laughable comment here: https://www.istorya.net/forums/5289784-post84.html

... or let me just quote it ...

and because i believed in the bible, i do believe na kung ing-ana klase ang work sa usa ka babaye...di dyod malangit ang iya soul.

.. what kind of reasoning is that Coz you see, this is such a delicate issue, and to say your opinion basing on your morals is damn stupid. You should see it on a larger scope. And on that line of his, it's damn obvious that's being judgemental and being self-righteous.


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he voiced out what he saw and all he wants is for people to know the truth and maybe do something about it.

.. what truth is he talking about That filipinas are prostitis Generalizing that filipinas are no good but solely for the flesh trade ?? Tell me, what truth have you understood in his comments ??


.. let me ask you this pigrah, i've asked this to a lot of people here in the forum but no one dared answered it..... have you ever talked to a prostitute before and asked her to why she came about to her profession

[penigabz]

.. let me ask you this : have you ever talked to a prostitute and asked her about the why and the how did she get into the flesh trade ??


.. you say that MAO MAY AKOA HAHIBAW.AN - sorry to say, but what you know isn't too much to have an opinion like that. YOU NEED TO LEARN A LOT MORE, SEE IT ON A BROADER PERSPECTIVE. DON'T LIMIT YOURSELF TO WHAT YOU SEE.


.. springfield is right when he said you forgot to mention the thieves and killers, what about them And this is how you answer by telling us that IT WILL BE OFF TOPIC IF WE TALK ABOUT THIEVES. Once again, dig a little deeper on a certain issue before you blabber your mouth. Coz as far as I read all your comments, they're shallow and baseless. YOU'RE JUDGEMENTAL and that is entirely wrong. And yeah, heed springfields's suggestion .......... GO TO JUNQUERA AND TELL THEM ( prostis ) THAT WHAT THEY'RE DOING IS WRONG. ISTORYA.NET IS NOT THE BEST AVENUE FOR YOU.... GO TELL THE PROSTIS YOURSELF.

Calm down sir..... We all know na panig kaau ka ni Springfield coz you were both MODS of this site, Mods knows everything baya diri. Hehehehehe Except in real world lang ha. Pero dili lang sad pasabot na ni dapig ko ni Graphicare ha... Well, back to the topic. Sakto ka sir, U NEED TO LEARN A LOT MORE, pero wala sad ni nagpasabot na kung kabalo naka sa tanan, sakto nasad ka pirmi. PEACE lang...(^_^)

[fingolfin]

@peni, hehehe... yeah, i'm calm. I'm not siding on springfield too, it just so happen that we have the same point of "don't be judgemental". i'm not saying i'm right on this certain issue, i just happen to know a damn lot about the flesh trade that when i see comments like that of graphicare, i get annoyed coz he's being self righteous.

[penigabz]

@peni, hehehe... yeah, i'm calm. I'm not siding on springfield too, it just so happen that we have the same point of "don't be judgemental". i'm not saying i'm right on this certain issue, i just happen to know a damn lot about the flesh trade that when i see comments like that of graphicare, i get annoyed coz he's being self righteous.

Mao ba? maka hinumdum lang ko when springfield said that ang mga righteous will be the first one to burn in hell ba to. hehehehehe. Hino-on kining mga Fililipina nato na mga babae na naka bana ug foreigner, dili sad cguro tanan na ang ilang tumong ang pag TAKE ADVANTAGE lang jud sa ilang ma bana na taga laing nasud aron ma haw-as sila sa kalisod. Pero naa sad jud ko'y kaila na subra ka bastos nasad iyang gi buhat. Batch ni nako siya pag high school (ngalan gi pugngan). Naka bana ni siya ug American national, dili sad kaayo tantong tiguwang ang maong langyaw ug hitsura-an sad. Human nila pag-pakasal, gipang taga-an siya ug mga magarbong butang, gipatukuran ug balay ug gi hatagan pa jud ug resthouse sa habagatan bahin sa probinsya sa sugbo. Pero kung wala ang ma-ong langyaw, iyang uyab2x na pinoy maoy mopahimulos sa ilang lawasnong kalipay ug kwarta sad sa maong langyaw ang gamiton sa babae aron e buhi sa iyang uyab2x na pinoy. Nasayran lang ko ni kay mismo siya ma-oy ni sulti nako kabahin aning hitabo-a kadtong nagkita mi sa among reunion. Ako siya gipangutana na, "Wala ka ma konsensya sa imong gi buhat?" iyang tubag nako kay, "Ay dahh....wala bitaw diri akong bana, aw mag lingaw2x sad ta oi!" naka ingon gud ko na, tinu-od jud d ay na ana-ay mga babae diri sa ato-a na kwarta ug mahayahay ilang kahimtang mao mu sugal sila pag minyo niining mga langyaw. Kana pud naa sa may Mr. J diha sa dalan Sanciangko, atbang anang daghang mga balay kahilayan. Ako naobserbahan kanang mag roving mi matag biyernes ug sabado sa gabie na pirting inilugay sa mga pok2x kung naay foreigner na custumer. Mao sad jud ni ang hinungdan mao ganahan sad ni sila mangari sa atong nasud kay Service Deluxe man kaayo ni sila sa atong mga pilipina na mugbo ug lupad.

[pigrah]

dili oi..people like TS are just one of those concerned citizen.
Even me, i feel exactly the same. Sometimes i blame our economy and sometimes i blame men, or the husbands who are a complete time wasters, drug addicts or simply irresponsible.
Women have no choice but be tempted to a life that appears to be more appealing than the usual.

@ PIGRAH .... do you really think PROSTITUTES wanted themselves to be PROSTITUTES in the first place ? Its survival of the fittest .

huh? i never said that.
i want people to know and understand why filipinas are doing that.
who in thier right mind would wanna be a prostitute in the first place?
and who would wanna see our own kababayans living thier life that way? when what they portray will be reflected on to all filipinas.
foreginers will assume instantly. no matter how educated u are, no matter how u dress.
But some girls like them dont hav a choice, maybe they are stuck in a situation where one cant even grasp how or why it happened.
U can never judge a person. U dont know what its like to be in thier place.

I never said that you said that . I merely asked you the question that needs an answer that associates this statement of yours "Women have no choice but be tempted to a life that appears to be more appealing than the usual. " .

My point is--
We shan't point our fingers solely at them.
I mean what about the people around them? family, friends, husbands perhaps, or the ones who promised to love and care but in the end abandoned them or the men/parents themselves who are forcing them to do what they do OR why wont we balme it to our government for not helping the needy.
We dont know the entire story behind it. All thier stories are diff. The best thing we can do instead is try and comprehend.
Thats the only point im trying to prove. Thats why I wrote what I wrote.
I dont agree with it but what can I do, igo na lang mu siga akong mata ug muginhawa ug lawom.

.. yes pigrah, this is a forum and we are allowed to say out our opinion, that's what graphicare's point is all about OPINION-BASED. And what's more he is judging those prostitis as being bad and evil ... read his laughable comment here: https://www.istorya.net/forums/5289784-post84.html

... or let me just quote it ...

.. what kind of reasoning is that Coz you see, this is such a delicate issue, and to say your opinion basing on your morals is damn stupid. You should see it on a larger scope. And on that line of his, it's damn obvious that's being judgemental and being self-righteous.


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.. what truth is he talking about That filipinas are prostitis Generalizing that filipinas are no good but solely for the flesh trade ?? Tell me, what truth have you understood in his comments ??


.. let me ask you this pigrah, i've asked this to a lot of people here in the forum but no one dared answered it..... have you ever talked to a prostitute before and asked her to why she came about to her profession

first of all...tan-awa gud ng gipang reply ni spring sa akong mga statements....ang kadaling ninyo u tend to quote out of context without even understanding the whole point.

cge ug highlight anang usa ka linya na dli mana masabtan kung dli basahun tanan.
thats what happened with spring and graphicare's conversation.

i dont really think theres something wrong with TS's POV. ang ga wild ra kay ang mga mods...and yes i have spoken to a prosti personally and women who's stuck with foreign men to use them for thier money and not for love.

PS
senstitve issue bitaw ni..mao bitaw gibutang ni dri sa TS ky pra maka focus ang tao on whats happening ug unsa ilang masulti or na feel pud.

kamo siguro ang wala kasabot..bsaha ug balik iyahang opening kun ang giapsabot ba niya tanan babae na naay foreigner prosti...ang iyaha gipasabot kanang mga babae na mu enter for prosititution purposes lang..mga FILIPINA girls na mahimong tourist spot.

[maitoots]

sensitive btaw ni na issue oi.. pero each of them have their own reasons why nsulod na cla sa ing ana nga work and why they stay in there.... if dli ka makatabang nla then don't nlang say anything bad about them.. it's like ba if you can't say sumthing nice, don't say anything at all nlang.

[fingolfin]

@peni ... i also have a friend who has a similar situation to what you've mentioned. My friend is an aussie citizen, got married to a pinay, went back to australia only to find out that his wife has a "live-in" partner and enjoying the fruits of his labor. Some people you can't just understand, they're provided with everything yet they go doing wicked deeds. As for prostis always on the rush when they see foreigners coz they see the foreigner as salvation to their problems, some foreigners really do marry prostis but that's another story.

@pigra ... you still haven't answered my question yet .... have you even talked to a prosti and how their life is

@maitoots ... you're absolutely right when you said .. if dli ka makatabang nla then don't nlang say anything bad about them... Who are we to judge them.


.. oh, and as for filipina girls as a tourist spot - yeah, it's damn true. But never say bad about them nor say " their souls will burn in hell ".

[Leartes]

and i hate women who justify their actions as "for practical reasons..." tsk tsk tsk

[fingolfin]

and i hate women who justify their actions as "for practical reasons..." tsk tsk tsk

.. well, not all of the prostis are in the poverty level. Would you believe if i tell you that there are women who have a nice office job who takes up prostitution as their side-job. I've met this kind of women, they are the class A prostis, their reason for doing it is to gain extra income to finance their hobby or whatever. That's their choice.


.. mostly of the college student/prosti i know of, they got into this kind of business because they've loss all their tuition and allowance due to mismanagement of funds. And thus, using the word "practical" they use their brains and get into the easy-road. Let's face it, *** sells. And when you're a college student your rate is damn high. Again, that's their choice. It's their lives.