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  1. #51

    Quote Originally Posted by chad_tukes View Post
    ang ako lang masulti in reference to your article bai kebs is that:

    SCIENCE has proof; BIBLE doesn't.

    o ayaw pangaway ha? mag hurumentado na pud ni siya ron.
    Bible wala hmmm but si science slowly affirming... gud luck lang pod nnu! this way ok ta ani...

  2. #52
    Quote Originally Posted by kebotDiNaMute View Post
    pst read first?

    Prediction - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Discovery Channel - Nostradamus

    FYI: its not for the NON-Believers. People talk about nostradamus and his prediction... Well Bible made its prediction... so whats wrong with prediction? TRIP look at your own SANITY...

    Yes what I posted is no attack but you are offended? how come ha... i posted it for the Christian Believers... See the posts somebody asks the purpose of the posts...

    next time sHHHSHHSHSHSHSSHHSSHHSHHSSH! you are over reacting.
    Predictions? Nostradamus? What's wrong with predictions? Can you predict earthquake? Can you predict what's is going to happen tomorrow? Kebz, do you know what predictions means in the first place? Look in wikipedia because that's your favorite site. In fact that website isn't also accurate.

    Please Kebz, don't belittle yourself. Nostradamus was sort an enemy of the Church because of his PSUEDO-SCIENCE. Every one is saying that Nostradamus was right! Well, I'll give an example. During the Presidential election here in US, he predicted that there will be a woman president in 2009. But it was wrong! Yet Obama came the victor. Do you still think Nostradamuss' predictions are accurate? pffttt... ang kang nostradamus predictions are just codes of skeptical trials... if it fails, no harm done because it's just a prediction. Do you see the point now?

    Bible predicts? Let's see, how many times that people are trying to predict that Christ will come on those predicted years? [insert the known years here] and yet, everyone that expected it, miserably failed. If you read the news or seen TV that some group were trying to make the bible true by means of predictions? There was a song by Gary Valenciano that had a lyric of "it's the year 2000, judgement day will come..." and yet, ZERO! 2009 na lang ta. Don;t worry kebz, I am very much sane!

    Me, offended? naks! Unless you insulted me then I get offended. But this, naahh... this is just a plaything kebz... it's easy to spot a falsified write up.
    Last edited by tripwire; 07-29-2009 at 01:13 AM.

  3. #53
    kebs can even go to Quiapo or Madam Auring magpatag-an siya didto. no harm done.

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    how many times that people are trying to predict that Christ will come on those predicted years
    Who are those people diay? Duklon ta na sila bi...

    Catholic church never gave a specific date neither does the bible.

  5. #55
    Quote Originally Posted by kebotDiNaMute View Post
    Of Course thats your reason! You might as well tell me you can use Bible but not the God In It. Brad suppressing something by FAITH is called CULT in religion, since d man mo sugot tawgon na RELIGION, then its called CONSPIRACY THEORY. You are hiding something. hahaha!
    are we still talking about the particular verse that you presented right? not the whole bible?

    " it's from the mind of intelligent men trying to explain things"
    --- are they better than the scientist? of course this was long been predicted before science takes its course. Hmmm. "I WONDER WHO TAUGHT THESE PEOPLE TO THINK SUCH INCREDIBLE CLAIMS".

    Thanks for affirming. I take that.[/QUOTE]

    Nobody taught these people.. they thought about what they have observed at that time and then wrote some verses. Do you think if god would have told them the verses wouldn't have been that simple?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kebotDiNaMute View Post
    Jeremiah 33:22 claims that the stars of the heaven are innumerable. Hippocrates, before the invention of the telescope charted and numbered 1,022 stars. Kepler later recounted and revised the number. Today scientists agree with Jeremiah. There are billions just in our galaxy! It is interesting that the Bible makes the number of stars roughly equivalent to the number of grains of sand on the seashore (Genesis 22:17; Hebrews 11:12). Carl Sagan also compared these two, leaning towards the number of stars being greater. Amazingly, the latest estimates of the gross number of sand grains are comparable to the modern estimated number of stars in the universe!

    Judges 5:20 mentions "the stars in their courses." While it was once believed that the stars were fixed, today we know that they too move in a predictable way.

    Job 38:19 is accurate in the way it characterizes light. Note that darkness is in a place but light is in a way. It travels a path.

    Job 38:24 indicates the light of the sun (by heating) makes the wind.

    In Genesis 1:1 and Hebrews 1:10-12 the Bible is unequivocal that the universe had a beginning. When the Bible was written many people believed the universe was eternal. Starting with the studies of Albert Einstein in the early 1900’s and continuing still today, science has confirmed the biblical view that the universe had a beginning.

    Moreover, the universe is expanding (Job 9:8; Isaiah 42:5; Jeremiah 51:15; Zechariah 12:1). Repeatedly God declares that He stretches out the heavens. During the early 20th century, most scientists (including Einstein) believed the universe was static. Others believed it oscillated and would eventually collapsed due to gravity. Then in 1929, astronomer Edwin Hubble showed that distant galaxies were receding from the earth. This discovery revolutionized the field of astronomy. Einstein admitted his mistake, and today most astronomers agree with what the Creator told us millennia ago – the universe is expanding!

    Job 26:7 The ancients Greeks believed that the world was held up by Atlas. Other civilizations held similar ideas. The Bible made an unusual claim: God did not hang the world on anything.

    Isaiah 40:22 Some have claimed that the Bible supports the "flat earth theory." But this passage declares that God sits upon the "circle of the earth."

    Job 38:13-14 conveys the idea of the earth rotating on its axis: "the earth...is turned as clay to the seal.

    One of the directors of Standard Oil Company read in Exodus 2:3 how Moses was placed in an ark "daubed with slime and pitch." He sent the company geologist Charles Whitshott to determine if there was still oil in that region. The discovery of oil led to Standard having very successful well operations in Egypt. (Tan, Paul L., Encyclopedia of 7700 Illustrations, p. 191.)

    The concept of embodied in the laws of thermodynamics: the constant of the universe’s mass/energy and the universal tendency towards decay and disorder are clearly articulated in Ecclesiastes 3:14 and Romans 8:21-22.

    In Job 38:16 God challenged Job to find the “springs of the sea.” But the ocean is so deep that almost all the ocean floor is in total darkness and the water pressure becomes enormous. It would have been impossible for Job to have explored the “springs of the sea.” Until recently, it was thought that oceans were fed only by rivers and rain. Yet in the 1970s, with the help of deep diving research submarines that were constructed to withstand the pressure, oceanographers discovered springs on the ocean floors!

    The Bible commanded circumcision of baby Jewish boys on the eighth day. (See Genesis 17:12; Leviticus 12:3; Luke 1:59). Medical science has discovered that the blood clotting chemical prothrombin peaks in a newborn on the eighth day. This is therefore the safest day to circumcise a baby. How could Moses have known this?

    When Noah was instructed to build the huge barge that would preserve his family and two of each kind of land creature, the Lord specified for him the perfect dimensions for a stable water vessel (Genesis 6:15). Ship builders today are well aware that the ideal dimension for ship stability is to have the length about six times that of the width. Dr. Werner Gitt demonstrated that the ark had the ideal dimensions to optimize both stability and economy of material. Yet God gave Noah these ideal dimensions over 4,500 years ago.

    all is here
    Evidence That The Bible is God's Word

    That's why archeologist uses Bible to find CIVILIZATIONS. WOW! Had these claim been wrong Bible will never stand a chance for the TRUTH.


    This is not meant to steal your joy kebs, but let me also say that other sacred book like the Qur'an and even the Vedas contain scientific accuracies.

    So if you have this mentality that because of the so called "accuracies" the bible is the ONLY word of God then I think you must also accept other scriptures to be the God's word.


    and I sincerely hope that you will.

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    sir kebvs maaung buntag diha......

    uhm to be fair ha, here it is....

    Bible (and other scriptures) and Science are two completely separate entities, following different paths, and attempting to answer different questions. In this respect, the simple answer would be that;
    • Science tries to provide us with insight about ‘How’ things happen: The purely scientific answer to your question is that life is a complex system of chemical reactions. Humanity arose from evolutionary pressure that selected increasingly complex forms. All intellect, reasoning and emotion are a result of interactions within the brain.


    • Bible (and other scriptures) tries to provide us with answers about ‘Why’ things happen. The religious answer to your question would be that some supernatural force brought about the creation of humanity. This force gifted humanity with reasoning, morality and a higher purpose.

    For example, Biology shows us how life works, revealing the unbelievably complex physical and chemical processes that drive us. It shows us which parts of the brain are responsible for memory, creativity and emotion. Your Bible (and other scriptures), by contrast, tries to explain the purpose of our existence, why we were given consciousness and reason. The current Creationism/Evolution debate captures the essence of this, two very polarised views of life, with both providing incomplete answers. If the media is to be believed, science and religion are on opposite sides of an unbreachable wall.

    Dont you know sir kebs who was the first to developed BigBang Theory? Hope you are knowledgeable about that. Dont lean to much on what you've read and please open up you mind...

    Have a good morning...

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    What do you understand about life when you listen to science and your bible?

  9. #59
    Quote Originally Posted by tripwire View Post
    Predictions? Nostradamus? What's wrong with predictions? Can you predict earthquake? Can you predict what's is going to happen tomorrow? Kebz, do you know what predictions means in the first place? Look in wikipedia because that's your favorite site. In fact that website isn't also accurate.

    Please Kebz, don't belittle yourself. Nostradamus was sort an enemy of the Church because of his PSUEDO-SCIENCE. Every one is saying that Nostradamus was right! Well, I'll give an example. During the Presidential election here in US, he predicted that there will be a woman president in 2009. But it was wrong! Yet Obama came the victor. Do you still think Nostradamuss' predictions are accurate? pffttt... ang kang nostradamus predictions are just codes of skeptical trials... if it fails, no harm done because it's just a prediction. Do you see the point now?

    Bible predicts? Let's see, how many times that people are trying to predict that Christ will come on those predicted years? [insert the known years here] and yet, everyone that expected it, miserably failed. If you read the news or seen TV that some group were trying to make the bible true by means of predictions? There was a song by Gary Valenciano that had a lyric of "it's the year 2000, judgement day will come..." and yet, ZERO! 2009 na lang ta. Don;t worry kebz, I am very much sane!

    Me, offended? naks! Unless you insulted me then I get offended. But this, naahh... this is just a plaything kebz... it's easy to spot a falsified write up.
    "Let's see, how many times that people are trying to predict that Christ will come on those predicted years?"
    --- who predicted the Bible or a people like you?

    "Yes nostradamus is predicting and manytimes he is wrong".
    --- its a science called the SCIENCE OF PREDICTION

    What I have posted is a affirmation of Science
    --- Is there anything wrong with science affirms to what has predicted a thousands of years earlier. Tell me if there is anything wrong with it. If non then quit your so called SANITY. AGAIN whats wrong with the POSTS? hmmm. I was wondering why you fight so hard and you call me ... hmmmm. My logic tells me there is something you are reacting but you never told me... just say it whats wrong with the posts? hmmm

  10. #60
    Quote Originally Posted by tatakalz View Post
    What do you understand about life when you listen to science and your bible?
    What do you understand to the posts by reading it? does it said life? hahaha! post the topic somewhere brad don't and try too hard! Are you threatened why you asking a question outside the topic? hmmm. I thought you will stop. It seems you got challenge? well go for it... Check the boundaries of the posts and stick with it. ok

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