Arroyo presses Air Force on attack choppers (possible Cobra attack helicopters)

[SandStorm]

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Makatawa pud ta nimu my friend Even the President cannot send someone out of the country without valid justification. Otherwise, all our senators, congressmen and public officials will all be sent out of the country

Do not lose your temper my friend; Be calm for in calmness there is Peace! Let there be Peace on earth, and not War.

Point of advise lang, when you are in a discussion do not attack the person but only the ideas presented. Personalan naka toink, and I will not respond to you anymore coz you're not getting healthier to discuss with.

Hahaha.. Oh come on, bitaw healthy discussion ni, nalingaw gani ko

OT naka bro, we are talking about the helicopters not on someone sending somebody outside the country. It was a suggestion, its not an order, basaha daw usab basig na daot imu mata >> "aw balhin nalang sa laing nasud bro kung wala ka mabuhat" did i say go away, asap?

Attack the person? Oh come on again, gi tubag nako tanan post nimu bro, wala man cguro ko ni attack ug taw, hahaha. Im just answering you point by point, ayaw nalang post kung di nimu ma barugan imu tubag.

Cge padayun ta, tubaga na ang post nako, pag research na kung enough ba ato military power for the current threat, prove it kay mao man imu claim

[zyragunix]

Hahaha.. Oh come on, bitaw healthy discussion ni, nalingaw gani ko

OT naka bro, we are talking about the helicopters not on someone sending somebody outside the country. It was a suggestion, its not an order, kay mura nawad an naman gud ka pag asa sa mindanao

Attack the person? Oh come on again, gi tubag nako tanan post nimu bro, wala man cguro ko ni attack ug taw, hahaha. Im just answering you point by point, ayaw nalang post kung di nimu ma barugan imu tubag.

Cge padayun ta, tubaga na ang post nako, pag research na kung enough ba ato military power for the current threat, prove it kay mao man imu claim

Sakto baya si vp-rakista, daghan kaayo ka unnecessary and harsh words; wala ka sa lugar, you should learn pa. Karon niingon napud ka nga OT cya, when in fact ikaw man nag-ingon niya nga mobalhin nalang siya lain country (what a brain by the way), igo ra siya ni-comment. Secondly, ikaw man ang nawad-an og pag-asa kay gusto naman ka gubaton ang mindanao Baliktad man ka doy

[SandStorm]

Mao na ni ron... another waste of time and money...daghan gyud diha gusto maka-kwarta ana nga project.

point kuno ug dagko na project sa pilipinas na walay kickback?

why waste of money na ang helicopter daghan purpose, they can help the military and it can be use during disasters, kung di ma agian ang mga roads sila mu supply sa relief goods.

[vp-rakista]

btaw seriously ba, i think its really a must man gyud for our government to upgrade our equipments. dli lang man pud ta mo tan-aw ug domestic threats, apil naman pud gud ang ato territory ani.
pero ang problema man gyud is with the persons there at the seat of power.

Now that they are presenting alternatives, pwede ra jud diay dili ta mamalit og mahalon... hmmm Makes me think that they really are not sincere in their justification to modernize the AFP to counter insurgency. Nag-apas ra jud diay tingale na sila kickback.

[vp-rakista]

Bidding for attack helicopters fails anew - DND chief
By James Mananghaya Updated March 11, 2009 12:00 AM

MANILA, Philippines - The bidding for the military’s night attack helicopters failed for the second time due to the increase in aircraft cost, Defense Secretary Gilbert Teodoro said.

Following the failure of the procurement process, Teodoro said they are considering the purchase of second-hand helicopters with the same night capability to provide the Air Force with the same number of units it needs for its operations.

“If the President approves it, we could buy second-hand helicopters instead of new ones with the P3.2 billion that we have for that,” he said.

The first bidding was nullified after the investigating panel formed to oversee the procurement process uncovered irregularities.

Several defense officials are now facing graft and falsification charges before the Ombudsman over the scrapped bidding.
- bidding pa gani na ha...
Another option, Teodoro said, is to recommend the reduction of the lot requirement for the aircraft to make adjustments in the budget.

“One option is to adjust the Special Allotment Release Order (SARO), lessen the required number of units because of the budget that we have,” he said.

Teodoro said the Air Force needs the helicopters for its firepower platform that could withstand the rigors of operations as well as in transporting troops and essential equipment needed in the frontlines.

Just last week, the Air Force received 15 Cessna T41 trainer planes from South Korea.

Teodoro added they are also planning to buy more SF 260 Marchetti planes.

Teodoro earlier said the high cost of state-of-the-art military hardware and the government’s limited purchasing power have caused delays in the Armed Forces’ modernization program.

He said the P5 billion allotted for the project is not enough for the AFP to procure modern equipment such as fighter planes and attack helicopters needed for the country’s external defense.

The first years of the Capability Upgrade Program (CUP) have so far resulted in the procurement of basic weapons such as machine guns, communication equipment and land vehicles.

Teodoro said a top-of-the-line attack helicopter presently costs around $83 million, or about P3.7 billion.

He stressed the urgent need for the AFP to acquire more helicopters and cargo planes, particularly the Air Force which only has one C-130 cargo plane after the other one crashed in Davao last year.

The AFP is expecting a helicopter to be back in service in about two months after undergoing rehabilitation.

Last year, the AFP received 600 new troop carriers and more than 2,000 units of squad automatic weapons in 2007.

The military hopes to increase its capability to address internal security threats from a low of about 30 percent in year 2000 to a maximum of 70 percent by 2010.

A total of 34 priority items are included in the first phase of the AFP’s re-prioritized CUP shop list Phase 2 has 62 items, and Phase 2-B has 39 items.

These include night fighting equipment, squad automatic weapons, 6,000 units of which are expected to be delivered to the AFP within six months; bullet-proof vests to improve the protection of frontline troops; and combat life support systems to minimize casualties in the field.

The multi-billion-peso CUP, a component of the Philippine Defense Reform Program, is a comprehensive project aimed at enhancing the equipment of the ill-equipped AFP within a period of five years, starting in 2005.


unsaon man nang nindot na kahimanan nya kurakuton raman ghapon. ma dugta nalang nang mga cobra or apache or cayman or whatever. maylang nag pang show2x nila sa military parade.

sa 6 ka cobra murag,

1. 1 Presidential security (psg)
2. 1 adto sa marines
3. 1 sa marines pero tambay lang para backup (kahoyon)
4. 1 sa airforce
5. 1 backup sa airforce same with marines
6. 1 ngadto mag park sa balay ni chavit singson


maypa india... gi launch na nila ila own made NUCLEAR SUBMARINE!

unsa kaha comment sa uban ani...murag ok raman siguro sila ani palpaka hmmmnn wala man nang-react ang mga pro hehehe

[SandStorm]

Sakto baya si vp-rakista, daghan kaayo ka unnecessary and harsh words; wala ka sa lugar, you should learn pa. Karon niingon napud ka nga OT cya, when in fact ikaw man nag-ingon niya nga mobalhin nalang siya lain country (what a brain by the way), igo ra siya ni-comment. Secondly, ikaw man ang nawad-an og pag-asa kay gusto naman ka gubaton ang mindanao Baliktad man ka doy

haha, unsa ni reinforcemnet.. bro klaro ako post, it was a suggestion, dili to order (what a brain also and what a comprehension ) did i say mu declare ta ug war sa mindanao? pwede nimu equote ako statement na saying mu declare ta ug war sa mindanao read and comprehend before replying bro, read all the pages (any brain?)

[SandStorm]

cge tubagon nako for vp=rakista, haha

unsaon man nang nindot na kahimanan nya kurakuton raman ghapon. ma dugta nalang nang mga cobra or apache or cayman or whatever. maylang nag pang show2x nila sa military parade.

sa 6 ka cobra murag,

1. 1 Presidential security (psg)
2. 1 adto sa marines
3. 1 sa marines pero tambay lang para backup (kahoyon)
4. 1 sa airforce
5. 1 backup sa airforce same with marines
6. 1 ngadto mag park sa balay ni chavit singson


maypa india... gi launch na nila ila own made NUCLEAR SUBMARINE!

bro taga malacañang ka? or department of defense? kibaw lagi ka asa ibutang mga helicopters

karun you praise india na they have a nuclear sub, kung ang pilipinas mu palit ug nuclear sub mu ana napud mu kickback, kurakot and everything, haha

[zyragunix]

cge tubagon nako for vp=rakista, haha




bro taga malacañang ka? or department of defense? kibaw lagi ka asa ibutang mga helicopters

karun you praise india na they have a nuclear sub, kung ang pilipinas mu palit ug nuclear sub mu ana napud mu kickback, kurakot and everything, haha

pagka-wala nalang jud hinungdan... ang comment man hinoon ang gi-komentaryohan, dili man ang news nga maoy pinaka-laman... ambot lang kaha

[vp-rakista]

pagka-wala nalang jud hinungdan... ang comment man hinoon ang gi-komentaryohan, dili man ang news nga maoy pinaka-laman... ambot lang kaha

hahaha... no further comment

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i saw this documentary that the Philippines was once supreme in air combat in the SE Asia region. karon? ehehehehe

anyway, if they could get these, no matter how few, it would be a giant step.