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  1. #831

    Quote Originally Posted by mannyamador View Post
    Poverty existed here way before the US (or Spain) colonized the Philippines.

    I LoL'd at this.

    Wikipedia
    Poverty is the shortage of common things such as food, clothing, shelter and safe drinking water, all of which determine the quality of life.

    Merriam-Webster
    the state of one who lacks a usual or socially acceptable amount of money or material possession


    by wikipedia's definition we are definitely richer before we were colonized by spain

    by Merriam-Webster's definition we are also richer prior to colonization when relative to ourselves since its says "socially acceptable" and i believe prior to colonization, wealth distribution was pretty adequate. at the very least, i assume everyone had the bare necessities fullfilled.

  2. #832
    Quote Originally Posted by Dakota View Post
    The world has had the means to eliminate poverty for 40 or 50 years now. The tool used has been foreign aid. The problem with foreign aid is that it is stolen by the corrupt 3rd world politiicans and never reaches the needy. Another issue with foriegn aid is that it is viewed as an entitlement to those who receive it and not as startup capital for a new future.

    Countries like Japan, South Korea, Germany, Hong Kong, Taiwan and Singapore were able to lift themselves out of poverty with capitalism and free trade. Even China and India today are making great strides in the standard living of their residents with booming economies, prior to the global recession. Note, non-communists residents in western China are revolting because of an uneven distribution of wealth. The Commuist party is attempting to keep the lionshare for itself. It will eventually lead to a new politicial system over time.

    So the question now becomes how can the Philippines create more opportunities for capitalism and free trade?

    The Philippines has an appropriate political structure, democratic, to provide a framework for a effective goverment. Why doesn't it work?

    Performing a root cause analysis on these issues could identify some interesting causes and maybe next steps and hopefully solutions
    kanang mahadlok lang ko ang free trade ba kay murag alkansi ta kay makasulod lang ang products sa lain nasud then ang atong products kay mura man gud dili pa ready... except for a few...

    should we first strenthen our own products and industries...

    mahimo nya lang ta ana kuha-aan sa materials then market sa finished products...

  3. #833
    Quote Originally Posted by foolonthehill View Post
    Dakota,

    Hyperwage Theory has answered your questions. Its bec those structures are not the solution

    Hyperwage Theory performed the root cause.

    And arrived at the wages of the domestic helpers.

    It's that simple.

    Now, mr. wall street executive,.

    why dont you answer your own questions?

    Use your much vaunted positions and degrees (of all people here you are the only one pulling rank on us)

    Answer your own questions!

    And bring in Mr Tarmac too bec he couldnt see the hyperbole of the author

    (how smart the author is, he he he that is a parody mr. tarmac, you are not expected to believe that, that his writing style since the beginning and hyperwage is his 10th book compilation of his writings. remember the 10th.. he has been writing that way for many years. that is a hyperbole a style it seems u are too much for that small style, ur too high up there in your tower.

    and notice he says that in each first chapter that he could be the worst intellectual lunatic

    as expected you didnt quote that bec u wanted to show ur bias.. cheap trick mr tarmac. make a full quote and a half truth.)

    Bring in mr russo too bec he wont read the topic of the debate.

    dont forget mr wall street ivy league dakota

    Answer your own questions... if you are incapable of answering them, then who is?

    Paul Krugman? Tarmac Russo Unsay Ngalan?
    bro kalma lang... smart kaayo si bentulan nag-alsa gani siya kaugalingon bangko... i got tired of reading the book... pwede tanggalin yung tungkol sa kanya at blah-blah and go straight to the point...

    "its easy to make something long that can actually be said in two sentences..."

  4. #834
    The part above regarding Merriam-Websters definition is a bit more complicated upon second reading.
    what we consider socially acceptable today isn't quite the same as before.

    having considered that time prior to colonization, our primitive soceity has viewed most of "what was" as acceptable. To put it simply most of what is socially acceptable is what you can really see around you way back when. where as now what is socially acceptable is contradictory to what we see on the streets.

    i know its kind of confusing, but its a bit hard to convey ideas across such a constricting medium.

  5. #835
    Quote Originally Posted by foolonthehill View Post
    Dakota,

    Hyperwage Theory has answered your questions. Its bec those structures are not the solution

    Hyperwage Theory performed the root cause.

    And arrived at the wages of the domestic helpers.

    It's that simple.

    Now, mr. wall street executive,.

    why dont you answer your own questions?

    Use your much vaunted positions and degrees (of all people here you are the only one pulling rank on us)

    Answer your own questions!

    And bring in Mr Tarmac too bec he couldnt see the hyperbole of the author

    (how smart the author is, he he he that is a parody mr. tarmac, you are not expected to believe that, that his writing style since the beginning and hyperwage is his 10th book compilation of his writings. remember the 10th.. he has been writing that way for many years. that is a hyperbole a style it seems u are too much for that small style, ur too high up there in your tower.

    and notice he says that in each first chapter that he could be the worst intellectual lunatic

    as expected you didnt quote that bec u wanted to show ur bias.. cheap trick mr tarmac. make a full quote and a half truth.)

    Bring in mr russo too bec he wont read the topic of the debate.

    dont forget mr wall street ivy league dakota

    Answer your own questions... if you are incapable of answering them, then who is?

    Paul Krugman? Tarmac Russo Unsay Ngalan?
    Ouch! Really angry...

  6. #836
    how would hyperwage theory address the issue of technological unemployment?

  7. #837
    Quote Originally Posted by foolonthehill View Post
    Dakota,

    Hyperwage Theory has answered your questions. Its bec those structures are not the solution

    Hyperwage Theory performed the root cause.

    And arrived at the wages of the domestic helpers.

    It's that simple.

    Now, mr. wall street executive,.

    why dont you answer your own questions?

    Use your much vaunted positions and degrees (of all people here you are the only one pulling rank on us)

    Answer your own questions!

    And bring in Mr Tarmac too bec he couldnt see the hyperbole of the author

    (how smart the author is, he he he that is a parody mr. tarmac, you are not expected to believe that, that his writing style since the beginning and hyperwage is his 10th book compilation of his writings. remember the 10th.. he has been writing that way for many years. that is a hyperbole a style it seems u are too much for that small style, ur too high up there in your tower.

    and notice he says that in each first chapter that he could be the worst intellectual lunatic

    as expected you didnt quote that bec u wanted to show ur bias.. cheap trick mr tarmac. make a full quote and a half truth.)

    Bring in mr russo too bec he wont read the topic of the debate.

    dont forget mr wall street ivy league dakota

    Answer your own questions... if you are incapable of answering them, then who is?

    Paul Krugman? Tarmac Russo Unsay Ngalan?
    Wow! foolonthehill came out swinging like the UFC with this post.. Wham! Bam! Smack! Pow! There's blood everywhere... I'm too battered to reply. Is it just me, or does nothing she says seem to make any sense? Maybe it's the erratic sentence structure or weird double spacing that's throwing me off.

    Foolonthehill, I have never professed to have the solution. If I had the actual remedy, I wouldn't be wasting my time arguing with you, would I? I've only pointed out some things that seem like reasonable approaches to the problem. But, since I won't kneel before you and become a Bentulan disciple, you reject my entire life experience as being utterly meaningless in your grand scheme of things. Why don't you try to learn from those posters who you confront with such ferocity? They are offering you an array of "real world" business experiences, and you dismiss the knowledge that they share with you EVERY TIME. You might find that you don't actually know as much as you think you do. That's sometimes called an epiphany, and it may change your life for the better.

    Give me a minute to put my helmet on before you launch your attack reply... Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by foolonthehill View Post
    Dakota,

    Hyperwage Theory has answered your questions. Its bec those structures are not the solution

    Hyperwage Theory performed the root cause.

    And arrived at the wages of the domestic helpers.

    It's that simple.

    Now, mr. wall street executive,.

    why dont you answer your own questions?

    Use your much vaunted positions and degrees (of all people here you are the only one pulling rank on us)

    Answer your own questions!

    And bring in Mr Tarmac too bec he couldnt see the hyperbole of the author

    (how smart the author is, he he he that is a parody mr. tarmac, you are not expected to believe that, that his writing style since the beginning and hyperwage is his 10th book compilation of his writings. remember the 10th.. he has been writing that way for many years. that is a hyperbole a style it seems u are too much for that small style, ur too high up there in your tower.

    and notice he says that in each first chapter that he could be the worst intellectual lunatic

    as expected you didnt quote that bec u wanted to show ur bias.. cheap trick mr tarmac. make a full quote and a half truth.)

    Bring in mr russo too bec he wont read the topic of the debate.

    dont forget mr wall street ivy league dakota

    Answer your own questions... if you are incapable of answering them, then who is?

    Paul Krugman? Tarmac Russo Unsay Ngalan?

    You should know, Mr. Foolonthehill. You and Thads Bentulan are one and the same, seeing as how you speak for how him so intimately and how personally aggrieved you have been and lashed out at anyone contesting or questioning your theory.

    The part about devoting half of the book to the author's conceit must've really ruffled you no?

    That's so pathetic. So, so pathetic.

    To borrow unsayngalan's term, emo ra kaayo ka.


    P.S. Please don't accuse me of any inability to see hyperbole or parody because you didn't see that in my earlier posts either. Unless what I said hurt because they had a larger element of truth than you were willing to allow?


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    Last edited by Tarmac; 07-22-2009 at 11:00 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vince Russo View Post
    Wow! foolonthehill came out swinging like the UFC with this post.. Wham! Bam! Smack! Pow! There's blood everywhere... I'm too battered to reply. Is it just me, or does nothing she says seem to make any sense? Maybe it's the erratic sentence structure or weird double spacing that's throwing me off.

    Foolonthehill, I have never professed to have the solution. If I had the actual remedy, I wouldn't be wasting my time arguing with you, would I? I've only pointed out some things that seem like reasonable approaches to the problem. But, since I won't kneel before you and become a Bentulan disciple, you reject my entire life experience as being utterly meaningless in your grand scheme of things. Why don't you try to learn from those posters who you confront with such ferocity? They are offering you an array of "real world" business experiences, and you dismiss the knowledge that they share with you EVERY TIME. You might find that you don't actually know as much as you think you do. That's sometimes called an epiphany, and it may change your life for the better.

    Give me a minute to put my helmet on before you launch your attack reply... Thanks
    Don't worry, Vince. This is all hyperbole. A parody by the author. Or do you not see it?!?

  10. #840
    Quote Originally Posted by unsay_ngalan_nimo View Post
    see napaka important na exportation... therefore we must strengthen our local industries and businesses.. locala companies must be innovative to be able to compete with the world market... ngayon kung naka hyperwage agad sa tingin mo magagawa yun ng mga local companies?

    in our case daku kaayo ta ug import na less ug export...

    anyway meron na tayon San MIguel at JOlibee.. hahahaha...
    Oh yes- Philippines is relying on export business- the exportation of labor force- our most valuable product - the OFW... and yes, they remit lots of money to feed our economy but lose their families in the process-- left by their domestic partners, their children gets into teen pregnancy or drugs and sooner than they expect, they return home with nothing but the terrible experience of discrimination, violence and even sexual abuses which, of course, they keep to themselves. Sad but true, this vicious cycle continues because our minimum wages here could hardly feed a family of 3.

    And by the way- Jollibee is not in the export sector of our economy.

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