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  1. #381

    remember pointing 1 finger on a subject , points the rest of the fingers on you. If upoint at someone and say batig nawng ai, the rest of it is pointing on you.

    to say a widely accepted theory is unbievable. these guys aren't looking at their own backyard - to questions nothing's more unbelievable than the bible itself. -except for the teachings probably, which is practiced by any government laws and taught by great other leaders.

  2. #382
    Hold on, why do i Have the responsibility of Science... hey wake up... Because I don't believe science tremble? omg... TRIP i don't believe in THEORY OF EVOLUTION you know why because there is just no proof. It just did'nt make sense... and trip before it become pseudo people believe it...
    Who said that you’re going to believe what others believe? What I presented kebz, is not for your acceptance but a window of what science has offered. Relax, I’m not attacking your ‘faith’ here. You’re too defensive. I understand people believed in pseudo-science because to them it was the “new” thing. That’s what happened to those people who were called ‘witch’, ‘warlocks’, ‘heretics’… because pseudo-science came with new beliefs. Not until “legitimate-science’ came into picture because pseudo-science is proven wrong.

    Take a look at this. Hitler made an experiment on human... i don't know what but people believe him but many died as subject to his experiment. Tell you what what is he trying to achieve? SCIENCE right?
    Let’s say Hitler used science for his personal intentions… do you think that is pseudo-science? I’ve heard so many stories from my patients who were Jewish about Hitler and to tell you the truth, it was a big mistake for Hitler but not necessarily you blame science for his insecurities. Science is a pursuit of knowledge, knowledge covering general truths of the operation of general laws.

    So is it right in the name of SCIENCE? EVOLUTION on the other hand destroy morality... If you believe without confirming its true…
    Kebz, you’re only disputing one problem, BIG BANG… and this you conclude that evolution destroys morality. How did you come up with this conclusion? You’re mixing morality [which is an individual trait] and evolution [as a general observational fact]. Where in the books that evolution destroys morality? I’d like to read that book if you can provide that because evolution improves people’s lives. If there is no evolution, we will not progress and your morality will still be the same as the time of inquisition.

    then you are trying to erase the chalkline of GOOD and Evil... How sure are you that EVOLUTION is true so I can erase this line...
    Chakline of good and evil? What is this? Evolution is evil and Creation is good? Hehehe… I think your assumptions are way too much to bear. How sure I am evolution is true? Kebz, look around you. What do you see? Houses, cars, planes, builidings, the food you eat, the clothes you wear, the money you use to buy “bad” stuff like computers, calculators, TV, audio components, mp3 players… those are evolutionary things that science has offered. Don’t tell me that you don’t use at least one of them because if you are, you already accepting the fact that evolution improved your life. Should I bring eraser now? 

    TRIP We believe for a purpose a reason.
    So as evolution.

    And we hang-on to that until there is a compelling evidence that it is false...
    As I have said, you’re only disputing one issue, Big Bang… as I wrote somewhere that it’s up to you’re beliefs but before you dismiss everything else, kindly look what’s happening in your environment.

    SCIENCE can stand on its own without your help and my help so don't take SCIENCE against me as what you are trying to do...
    Actually kebz, science will not stand on its own without the help of people. I am however, one of them! Also, I am not forcing you to believe me I or throwing science against you… am only assisting and informing you what science [aka evolution] helps my life easy.

    cmon... Does it mean they need moral support... I think funding yes... then lets talk about the proposal for that science project later.. hehehe
    Kebz, science evolve in general interest and that includes moral support. Scientists need family support, moral support that is. Science evolves in right and wrong. Don’t tell me you didn’t know that? And what science project are you talking about?

    Trip you are twisting situation and analogy here... its dangerous... you decieve people to thinking... Well if its the art of debate sorry it won't work on me... Well you can try me... You are not fighting an evidence but fighting a LOGIC... Psychology ka? pm nako b imo background so i can focus my answers...
    Twisting what? Deceiving who? Dangerous to whom? Debating from what? Who is fighting what? Kebz, we are not debating but discussing… and logic and psychoanalysis plays a very big part in our discussion. I am however giving data [countless to you] and logic was part of them. Somehow, you’re only giving me a detestable hand and refuting them without even reading those data or at least get a chance to read them in your library or the world wide web. Tell me, who is fighting, twisting, dangerous and debating that all data presented are nothing but FALSE. Well, I would recommend you read more books though. Now, don’t twist this suggestion because it’s just a friendly advice not an insult. 
    Last edited by tripwire; 07-07-2009 at 02:15 AM.

  3. #383
    its just a theory. thus, man made idea. though the phenomenon is real, scientifically proven - that the universe is slowly expanding and expanding. but the big bang still remains a theory trying to give an answer to this expansion.

  4. #384
    physicist are one who created bb....it hasn't been proven though

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    Quote Originally Posted by tripwire View Post
    Who said that you’re going to believe what others believe? What I presented kebz, is not for your acceptance but a window of what science has offered. Relax, I’m not attacking your ‘faith’ here. You’re too defensive. I understand people believed in pseudo-science because to them it was the “new” thing. That’s what happened to those people who were called ‘witch’, ‘warlocks’, ‘heretics’… because pseudo-science came with new beliefs. Not until “legitimate-science’ came into picture because pseudo-science is proven wrong.


    Let’s say Hitler used science for his personal intentions… do you think that is pseudo-science? I’ve heard so many stories from my patients who were Jewish about Hitler and to tell you the truth, it was a big mistake for Hitler but not necessarily you blame science for his insecurities. Science is a pursuit of knowledge, knowledge covering general truths of the operation of general laws.


    Kebz, you’re only disputing one problem, BIG BANG… and this you conclude that evolution destroys morality. How did you come up with this conclusion? You’re mixing morality [which is an individual trait] and evolution [as a general observational fact]. Where in the books that evolution destroys morality? I’d like to read that book if you can provide that because evolution improves people’s lives. If there is no evolution, we will not progress and your morality will still be the same as the time of inquisition.


    Chakline of good and evil? What is this? Evolution is evil and Creation is good? Hehehe… I think your assumptions are way too much to bear. How sure I am evolution is true? Kebz, look around you. What do you see? Houses, cars, planes, builidings, the food you eat, the clothes you wear, the money you use to buy “bad” stuff like computers, calculators, TV, audio components, mp3 players… those are evolutionary things that science has offered. Don’t tell me that you don’t use at least one of them because if you are, you already accepting the fact that evolution improved your life. Should I bring eraser now? 


    So as evolution.


    As I have said, you’re only disputing one issue, Big Bang… as I wrote somewhere that it’s up to you’re beliefs but before you dismiss everything else, kindly look what’s happening in your environment.


    Actually kebz, science will not stand on its own without the help of people. I am however, one of them! Also, I am not forcing you to believe me I or throwing science against you… am only assisting and informing you what science [aka evolution] helps my life easy.


    Kebz, science evolve in general interest and that includes moral support. Scientists need family support, moral support that is. Science evolves in right and wrong. Don’t tell me you didn’t know that? And what science project are you talking about?


    Twisting what? Deceiving who? Dangerous to whom? Debating from what? Who is fighting what? Kebz, we are not debating but discussing… and logic and psychoanalysis plays a very big part in our discussion. I am however giving data [countless to you] and logic was part of them. Somehow, you’re only giving me a detestable hand and refuting them without even reading those data or at least get a chance to read them in your library or the world wide web. Tell me, who is fighting, twisting, dangerous and debating that all data presented are nothing but FALSE. Well, I would recommend you read more books though. Now, don’t twist this suggestion because it’s just a friendly advice not an insult. 
    Madam check you definition of EVOLUTION.. if cars, cellphones and technology is a proof of evolution.. then evolution is not a theory at all? do you agree? Technology are improvement of science... and its not evolution. Trip yea we have a difference on terms already. What you are trying to do is erase God out of the picture and say yes we can do it on our own... am i right... does it mean if i don't believe you its inquisition? cmon... BigBang is the start of Evolution, its thier window of opportunity claiming its true, just prove it... I am watching it, all the time also...

    So hitlers fault, is hitler alone not his science... Had he succeeded you will tell me look at hitler he sacrifice life for the better of mankind... tsk tsk tsk... cmon trip what difference does it make for people testing theory and found it its not true... dont worry trip I am looking at science every single day... but when you tell me to believe in your science, evolution is no science... it used science to validate its claim... tell you what your evolution theory fights with THERMODYNAMICS and its very very serious... You can continue giving me proof, books or anything... just prove it thats all I am saying... to be honest trip. I do not like this heaven and hell you know why, hell creeps me out and its so hard to go to heaven... I wanted my lifetime to end at death... but he makes me believe its true... I just cannot find an excuse... You better ask yourself God Prove to me you are there... He will answer you one day... Gud luck

  6. #386
    Quote Originally Posted by KASAAC View Post
    physicist are one who created bb....it hasn't been proven though
    If u dont mind me asking ur opinion KASAAC , if bb theory is not real . what do u think is our origin.?? just wondering

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  8. #388
    Quote Originally Posted by kebot View Post
    wahaha, I think you are obsessed with you scientist not me... hehehe! tsk tsk tsk.. if thats pretty lady then i will luv ur pretty scientist.. walla! so, y you pushing gayness.. do you know that homosexual are condemned in the Bible... so i think you got more potential brad.. hahaha! go ahead.. anything aginst God is good for you right? gooo, be a homosexual... gud luck gaylord ****r.. hahaha!
    latos napod... hahaha kadaghan jud badlongon diri...
    Oh My Gayness

  9. #389
    Quote Originally Posted by cromagnon View Post
    If u dont mind me asking ur opinion KASAAC , if bb theory is not real . what do u think is our origin.?? just wondering
    I believe God created everything, us, the nature, insects every single creeping thing and/ or life, be it stone, soil, grass, animals...etc
    Imagine the theory BB, its very impossible for a certain explosion to just comes up certain human being, that has the necessary organs to live, the brain to think, different sexes, capabilities for the woman to multiply through the help of the opposite ***, and the rest, different animals that live on purpose, vegetables, plants, trees, birds....impossible it hasn't been proven yet...I believe in supernatural truth and that's God, he created everything.

  10. #390
    Technology are improvement of science... and its not evolution.

    hahahaha unsa gud tawn ning pagka interpetoha gud... mura man ug lima singko!

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