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    Tricks, magics, miracles are all the same. It's only called miracle when someone from some church it's miracle even if it's purely magic. Based on biblical terminologies... magic is upgraded to miracles. BB isn't miracle because your creator isn't part of the equation. It's purely human ingenuity not some magical stories that heavens and earth is created by one creator with a snap of a finger. Tell me if that's not magic?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinyalan View Post
    Tricks, magics, miracles are all the same. It's only called miracle when someone from some church it's miracle even if it's purely magic. Based on biblical terminologies... magic is upgraded to miracles. BB isn't miracle because your creator isn't part of the equation. It's purely human ingenuity not some magical stories that heavens and earth is created by one creator with a snap of a finger. Tell me if that's not magic?
    You are not doing your homework.

    There are things we call para-normal and Miracles belong to that category. Magic on the other hand is making something out from nothing.

    You mean the discovery is purely human ingenuity, not the process.

    well if a Creator is not part of the equation then tell me why do things exist instead of nothing?

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    maybe there's a hair-line of a difference between magic and miracles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Acts23 View Post
    You are not doing your homework.

    There are things we call para-normal and Miracles belong to that category. Magic on the other hand is making something out from nothing.

    You mean the discovery is purely human ingenuity, not the process.

    well if a Creator is not part of the equation then tell me why do things exist instead of nothing?
    Hmmm... not doing my homework, eh...

    Well, bro can you define miracle and compare that of magic? Of course human ingenuity gyud, kinsa man diay naghatag sa theorem sa BB? ang creator? and you think of process... hmmmm... I think this where you forget to mention something relevant.

    To answer your question bro, read your bible because that's the only evidence you can come up with.

    Although, you give an ideal question. If your creator created the universe, who created your creator? I think BB is more compelling than the creator theory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinyalan View Post
    Hmmm... not doing my homework, eh...

    Well, bro can you define miracle and compare that of magic? Of course human ingenuity gyud, kinsa man diay naghatag sa theorem sa BB? ang creator? and you think of process... hmmmm... I think this where you forget to mention something relevant.

    To answer your question bro, read your bible because that's the only evidence you can come up with.

    Although, you give an ideal question. If your creator created the universe, who created your creator? I think BB is more compelling than the creator theory.

    oh...I thought all along you already had an idea of the meaning of the words, Magic and Miracles? Now you are asking me to define it for you?

    Sure no problem with the "human ingenuity" part. But the point I made was- The BB theory points to a creator. In other words, the man made discovery or theory leads to a Creator.

    Ah so you believe in the bible?

    ooops...ni skip man ka...Can you not give a decent answer to my question. Dont turn the table around. So come on sir...Why do things exist instead of nothing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinyalan View Post
    Maayo pa ang big bang theory kay observability and there is a big chance to prove it's beginnings. Pero ang genesis theory gyud intawn mura gyud ug magic! Poof, mahimo kang tawo! nagkabalintuwang pa gyud ang verses... lahi-lahi ug istorya. hahaha
    Ayaw sah katawa bro kay wala pay ending, last 2 minutes palan hehe...basin mapalaw ka... if dili ma explain sa science karon wala nagpasabot nga magic or dili tinuod nah...

    Peace!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinyalan View Post
    Tricks, magics, miracles are all the same. It's only called miracle when someone from some church it's miracle even if it's purely magic. Based on biblical terminologies... magic is upgraded to miracles. BB isn't miracle because your creator isn't part of the equation. It's purely human ingenuity not some magical stories that heavens and earth is created by one creator with a snap of a finger. Tell me if that's not magic?
    Brad don't get over confident...

    diin man ka ani nanangkong brad "that heavens and earth is created by one creator with a snap of a finger" if you can not find a verse or proof aning finger finger nmo... it means ikaw ray nag magic magic... You see your problem is you make new statements according to your standard.. tsk tsk tsk... be asa ka nanangkon ana b... hmmm...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinyalan View Post
    l know, lisod gyud sa uban nga dili mo acquire ug additional knowledge. Motoo ka ug magic? Because that's what the bible had been telling people since...
    Ikaw bro, naka acquire nka ug additional knowledge diay? testingan beh - too kag nga naay universe? unsa man kadak-a an universe bro? unsa may naa beyond sa universe?

    if dili ka makaexplain ana tabala ra sad ka nituo magic...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinyalan View Post
    Maayo pa ang big bang theory kay observability and there is a big chance to prove it's beginnings. Pero ang genesis theory gyud intawn mura gyud ug magic! Poof, mahimo kang tawo! nagkabalintuwang pa gyud ang verses... lahi-lahi ug istorya. hahaha
    observable eh? gatoon ka ug BB theory sir or naka dongog ra ka ani and then since it supports your atheistic POV imo dayon gi embraced w/o actually searching?

    Ever heard of "Dark Matter"? Asa man ni sila sir? makita ni sila? ma observe ni nato? apil man ni siya sa BB theory.

    Do your homework sir ha...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Acts23 View Post
    observable eh? gatoon ka ug BB theory sir or naka dongog ra ka ani and then since it supports your atheistic POV imo dayon gi embraced w/o actually searching?

    Ever heard of "Dark Matter"? Asa man ni sila sir? makita ni sila? ma observe ni nato? apil man ni siya sa BB theory.

    Do your homework sir ha...

    Both the Big Bang and the inflationary model break basic laws of science.
    For the universe to form in that manner there would have to be a nearly unlimited amount of energy that started the Big Bang. This simple fact is ignored!
    An even bigger problem is the First Law of Thermodynamics, often called the Law of Conservation of Energy.
    "energy cannot be created or destroyed, but can only change form" diin c bigbang ani?
    If energy cannot be created, then an incredible amount of it cannot appear from nothingness. Gets?
    Tanawa inyo big bang nangaway ni Science... patay GG! Does it mean na ilards mo? hehehe!

    kebot will sit back and enjoy!

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