Religion made me do it!

[bluedes]

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Eyes on the board brad, i presented proof... I qoute again.

Marxists stand on the basis of philosophical materialism, which rules out the existence of any supernatural entity, or anything outside or "above" nature. <------ Godless dba?

Life after death?
So, in spite of all this scientific development, why does Religion still have a grip on the minds of millions? Religion offers men and women the consolation of a life after death. Philosophical materialism denies the possibility of such a thing. Mind, ideas, the soul - all these things are the product of matter organised in a certain way. <------- contra kaau sa christianism dba?

source: Marxism and Religion

so, any defense? Its more like synonymous, but different if applied, Athiesm is just a base... Communism is the ACT. But I do know you guys are not communist... so i know u are good athiest, I hope so. Its time for me to call on your goodness if indeed you are...

Now we can segregate the MEN from the BOYS.

Off topic nako ato topic RELIGION FORCE ME... But Allegation is i think disturbing also...

Brad, magklaro lng ta.. anything not into YOUR religion is atheism.. that's how you brand it diba..

Read more about marxism before you post your single-statement conclusions about it. Do you know who gives inherent value to that philosophical materialism in marxism? It is true that religion is the opium of the masses as Karl Marx has stated, but it doesn't mean na Godless to xa.

like what trip said,

Where in the books that Atheism is part of communism? That's probably those writers are religious and hate communism and labeled them as atheist because they don't believe on Christian God. It is written, but those are poorly write ups.

[tripwire]

I think OT na kaayo ta...

Well, let's get bak to the main topic. Sorry guys... I derailed the thread without knowing it. hehehe...

[kebot]

Brad, magklaro lng ta.. anything not into YOUR religion is atheism.. that's how you brand it diba..

Read more about marxism before you post your single-statement conclusions about it. Do you know who gives inherent value to that philosophical materialism in marxism? It is true that religion is the opium of the masses as Karl Marx has stated, but it doesn't mean na Godless to xa.

like what trip said,

For a paradise in this world!

"If I were to begin all over again, I would [...] try to avoid making this mistake or that mistake, but the main course of my life would remain unchanged. I shall die a proletarian revolutionary, a Marxist, a dialectical materialist, and consequently an irreconcilable atheist. My faith in the communist future of mankind is not less ardent, indeed it is firmer today, than it was in the days of my youth. The faith in man and his future gives me even now such power of resistance as cannot be given by any religion." (L. Trotsky, Stalin, NY 1967, p. 54.)

Marxism and Religion

Brad I think Marx didn't do anything... I am not after marx, i am after a person like Stalin.

Well he said
"an irreconcilable atheist. My faith in the communist future of mankind is not less ardent, indeed it is firmer today". Wa lang unta ni cya ni ingon athiest cya.... anyways its up to the readers to decide. I am just presenting FACTS not necessarily true.

Next time make sure your belief is better than mine kay para wala nay mo lalis. Labay mo tae labay pod ko tae... lets c who smells bad.

[kebot]

Oh yes, race is part of the picture to understand their views. You have to know their background so you will know who you are referring to. Di man tingali ka mo recommend sa imong mga amigo nga patrabahoa ning akong amigo kay maayo motrabaho but your friends will always ask kinsa man na siya. di ba? Logic as bluedes said should be part of your resume.

As for the jews, I wouldn't say they are very intelligent... they are the same, humans they are good in some ways... like business and politics but I wouldn't say "very intelligent". Did you know why Christ was not recognized by them? Read the whole plot about Jesus and Judaism so you will know.

Kebz, there will always people say that religion is BAD! mao na nga there are unbelievers of the same faith. Would you consider Muslims atheists because they don't believe in your religion or Buddhism as atheists because they believe in your religion, or Hinduism because they don't believe in your religion. The same with communism, they don't believe in your religion. Did you know that Muslims now are the largest religious community? Don't tell me that they are atheists because Allah to them is not Christian God.

Atheist on the other hand, lived without religion [maybe most of them] were more productive workers that those with religion? Ngano? They work during Holidays.

TIMEOUT! i did not impose my dogma... I object to that. Judaism... all i know is they just missed the day of their visit. I cannot talk about judaism sorry. Limit nako ana...

Oh yes, race is part of the picture to understand their views <--- I hope you are not racist sis. I won't discus racism... If marx is a filipino he is still the founder of marxism right? so race in this case is irrelevant.

Atheist on the other hand, lived without religion [maybe most of them] <------- Athiesm is simply Godless


They.. were more productive workers that those with religion? Ngano? They work during Holidays
--- wahehehehe, good sense of humor, pero d sugot insik ani kay ma lugi... mga athiest cge ra blog sa istorya.. hahahaha

[tripwire]

actually kebz, those that are listed in the first post, those were religious people and they use the bible to gauge acceptance from God. If you count people who died in the name of religion, mas daghan pa compared sa imong example [communism]. Historically speaking, for over 300 years sa Pilipinas... roman catholicism geared more snatch, grab and kill people that don't believe their religion.

Those people [on the list], are prime example how religion made them what they are... to us, we can't comprehend their beliefs but to them, it's absolute kay dili sila gusto nga ma tainted ilang beliefs. Daghan usab nga serial killers who pattern their killings from the Bible.

[tripwire]

TIMEOUT! i did not impose my dogma... I object to that. Judaism... all i know is they just missed the day of their visit. I cannot talk about judaism sorry. Limit nako ana...

Oh yes, race is part of the picture to understand their views <--- I hope you are not racist sis. I won't discus racism... If marx is a filipino he is still the founder of marxism right? so race in this case is irrelevant.

Atheist on the other hand, lived without religion [maybe most of them] <------- Athiesm is simply Godless


They.. were more productive workers that those with religion? Ngano? They work during Holidays
--- wahehehehe, good sense of humor, pero d sugot insik ani kay ma lugi... mga athiest cge ra blog sa istorya.. hahahaha

Kebz, I am not talking about racism or being racist. I am only telling you race is part of the picture as well as their history.

You should learn more about Judaism because that's were all it begun.

[kebot]

actually kebz, those that are listed in the first post, those were religious people and they use the bible to gauge acceptance from God. If you count people who died in the name of religion, mas daghan pa compared sa imong example [communism]. Historically speaking, for over 300 years sa Pilipinas... roman catholicism geared more snatch, grab and kill people that don't believe their religion.

Those people [on the list], are prime example how religion made them what they are... to us, we can't comprehend their beliefs but to them, it's absolute kay dili sila gusto nga ma tainted ilang beliefs. Daghan usab nga serial killers who pattern their killings from the Bible.

Balhiboan jud ko nmo trip da... syet! You just open up a very sensitive issue thier from the Catholics... should we discuss? i'd rather not... Im no Catholic so I don't have thier sympathy.

Ok Past is past we have to learn from it. Simple. (we did not suffer from it right?)

Atheism used in POLITICS = Dangerous.
Religion used in POLITICS = Dangerous.

The thread is already bias only religion when both are dangerous. So should i watch them scourging religion. NO WAY. Lets discuss it openly...

Can u please stop posting. I don't want to say sorry again... Indeed you are really one of a heck... if mag atubang ta hala ma ogmaan ta cge istorya parte SPIRITUAL and OCCULT.. hahahah

[kebot]

Kebz, I am not talking about racism or being racist. I am only telling you race is part of the picture as well as their history.

You should learn more about Judaism because that's were all it begun.

Sorry trip, i can't read it. There is just too much to understand, background, culture, attitude & mentality.. etc.etc. it used up too much time. but you can tell me if you want... sagot nako place and food for 2.. hahaha ang mokuyog 500php per head.. hahaha!

[kebot]

hahaha... kebz, the website is actually from the ideas of Ted Grant. That person was Catholic. you know what that means...

Below source is not Ted Grant.

source: Marxism and Religion
Alan Woods
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Woods_(politician)

Ga research ko balik trip, hadlok nako nmo.. hehehe!

[handsoff241]

imo jud gi-simhot hands?

Gitilapan jud para ma confirm