Religion made me do it!

[kebot]

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Ay, kasakit pud ani nga thread. Diman tingali ni sila daghan. But in my opinion, lain-lain gyud ang interpretations sa bible. Sa ilang pagtoo sila ang husto unya ang uban sayup.

Kebz, communism dili baya na sila Atheist... as I have told you before. Misconception ra na nimo nga ang dili motoo sa Christian God is unbelievers or Atheist. You have to correct that notion because that's a sign that you need to learn more about atheists or atheism. Mao was an idealist and a political strategist to start with. Didn't you know that Mao was a student of Confucianism? You have to study him (or they) before you accuse them of something that you don't know. This is just a suggestion though.

Sis in the height of thier power they are ATHIEST. They embrace Marxism. They are not in-born athiest... Correct me if I am wrong. I have copy paste a doctrine of marxism...

Marxism and Religion
Philosophical materialism and science

Marxists stand on the basis of philosophical materialism, which rules out the existence of any supernatural entity, or anything outside or "above" nature. <---- pure athiesm... right? Godless in short.

So what du think?

[kebot]

well part of my claim is this:

Athiesm is part of Communism. It is written...

[tripwire]

Sis in the height of thier power they are ATHIEST. They embrace Marxism. They are not in-born athiest... Correct me if I am wrong. I have copy paste a doctrine of marxism...

Marxism and Religion
Philosophical materialism and science

Marxists stand on the basis of philosophical materialism, which rules out the existence of any supernatural entity, or anything outside or "above" nature. <---- pure athiesm... right? Godless in short.

So what du think?

As you have copied and pasted... Marxist and Religion, it's plain and simple that base of their teaching is also called religion... they have faith and primary beliefs about communism or being a communist. Atheist on the other hand is totally a different animal. Atheist or atheism don't have that ideals. I am religious kebz but I have complete understanding why there are atheists. It doesn't mean that I have to go walk on their path but knowing the differences will make you understand. Now, since your impression that communists or communism are atheists or atheism, it doesn't meet the same ground. Kaso they don't believe on Christianity they are atheists. Don't you think you're too quick to judge where it is not your job? Both ideals are different, it's like hot and cold, carbon and water, left and right, lions and elephants, birds and ants. Those are examples that they don't mix. If they, it will not last long.

Did you know that Karl Marx was a Jew? Have you heard of a Jewish Atheist? Do you have a clue what is Jewish faith? Ilang tradition will not lost... although he changed his jewish faith just to escape from anti-semiticism and changed his faith to Protestant. His views with communism is based on religious equality. Well, you have to dig more on his biography kebz.

well part of my claim is this:

Athiesm is part of Communism. It is written...

Where in the books that Atheism is part of communism? That's probably those writers are religious and hate communism and labeled them as atheist because they don't believe on Christian God. It is written, but those are poorly write ups.

[kebot]

For a paradise in this world!

"If I were to begin all over again, I would [...] try to avoid making this mistake or that mistake, but the main course of my life would remain unchanged. I shall die a proletarian revolutionary, a Marxist, a dialectical materialist, and consequently an irreconcilable atheist. My faith in the communist future of mankind is not less ardent, indeed it is firmer today, than it was in the days of my youth. The faith in man and his future gives me even now such power of resistance as cannot be given by any religion." (L. Trotsky, Stalin, NY 1967, p. 54.)

Marxism and Religion

PARADISE? OH YEA, WITH "irreconcilable atheist" like STALIN. Hmmm.

[tripwire]

hahaha... kebz, the website is actually from the ideas of Ted Grant. That person was Catholic. you know what that means...

[bluedes]

umm, asa man diha na atheism is part of communism?
just because an atheist believes in communism, part na diay na?

mura man pud na ang usa ka scientist ni believe ug creationism, so science is part of creationism na diay?

logic brad, gamita pud panagsa oi..

[kebot]

As you have copied and pasted... Marxist and Religion, it's plain and simple that base of their teaching is also called religion... they have faith and primary beliefs about communism or being a communist. Atheist on the other hand is totally a different animal. Atheist or atheism don't have that ideals. I am religious kebz but I have complete understanding why there are atheists. It doesn't mean that I have to go walk on their path but knowing the differences will make you understand. Now, since your impression that communists or communism are atheists or atheism, it doesn't meet the same ground. Kaso they don't believe on Christianity they are atheists. Don't you think you're too quick to judge where it is not your job? Both ideals are different, it's like hot and cold, carbon and water, left and right, lions and elephants, birds and ants. Those are examples that they don't mix. If they, it will not last long.

Did you know that Karl Marx was a Jew? Have you heard of a Jewish Atheist? Do you have a clue what is Jewish faith? Ilang tradition will not lost... although he changed his jewish faith just to escape from anti-semiticism and changed his faith to Protestant. His views with communism is based on religious equality. Well, you have to dig more on his biography kebz.

Where in the books that Atheism is part of communism? That's probably those writers are religious and hate communism and labeled them as atheist because they don't believe on Christian God. It is written, but those are poorly write ups.

Sorry mam i did not judge them... I just presented them Casualty of Religion and Communism.
I just relate what history had to say. Sis allow me to Picture things out:

source: Marxism and Religion
Marxism is incompatible with religion, it goes without saying that we are opposed to any idea of prohibiting or repressing religion. We stand for the complete freedom of the individual to hold any religious belief, or none at all.

Jew are very intellectual, In fact they forget about their VISIT. When Christ came never even recognize him. But the PERSIANS did (three kings...). So forget the the race sis.

My stand point here is that. If religion is bad especially mr. koolaid. How much more without religion.

But yea You got a point sis. Pure athiest could mean mild Athiest... I don't know...

[kebot]

umm, asa man diha na atheism is part of communism?
just because an atheist believes in communism, part na diay na?

mura man pud na ang usa ka scientist ni believe ug creationism, so science is part of creationism na diay?

logic brad, gamita pud panagsa oi..

Eyes on the board brad, i presented proof... I qoute again.

Marxists stand on the basis of philosophical materialism, which rules out the existence of any supernatural entity, or anything outside or "above" nature. <------ Godless dba?

Life after death?
So, in spite of all this scientific development, why does Religion still have a grip on the minds of millions? Religion offers men and women the consolation of a life after death. Philosophical materialism denies the possibility of such a thing. Mind, ideas, the soul - all these things are the product of matter organised in a certain way. <------- contra kaau sa christianism dba?

source: Marxism and Religion

so, any defense? Its more like synonymous, but different if applied, Athiesm is just a base... Communism is the ACT. But I do know you guys are not communist... so i know u are good athiest, I hope so. Its time for me to call on your goodness if indeed you are...

Now we can segregate the MEN from the BOYS.

Off topic nako ato topic RELIGION FORCE ME... But Allegation is i think disturbing also...

[kebot]

hahaha... kebz, the website is actually from the ideas of Ted Grant. That person was Catholic. you know what that means...

yea i also noticed the last part... but im still reading...

yea but i think he is ATHIEST now...

Omg, Trip you are good . you examine quite well. You noticed.. hehehe! well as you know, the best penetrators are the ones inside the organization...

[tripwire]

Sorry mam i did not judge them... I just presented them Casualty of Religion and Communism.
I just relate what history had to say. Sis allow me to Picture things out:

source: Marxism and Religion
Marxism is incompatible with religion, it goes without saying that we are opposed to any idea of prohibiting or repressing religion. We stand for the complete freedom of the individual to hold any religious belief, or none at all.

Jew are very intellectual, In fact they forget about their VISIT. When Christ came never even recognize him. But the PERSIANS did (three kings...). So forget the the race sis.

My stand point here is that. If religion is bad especially mr. koolaid. How much more without religion.

But yea You got a point sis. Pure athiest could mean mild Athiest... I don't know...

Oh yes, race is part of the picture to understand their views. You have to know their background so you will know who you are referring to. Di man tingali ka mo recommend sa imong mga amigo nga patrabahoa ning akong amigo kay maayo motrabaho but your friends will always ask kinsa man na siya. di ba? Logic as bluedes said should be part of your resume.

As for the jews, I wouldn't say they are very intelligent... they are the same, humans they are good in some ways... like business and politics but I wouldn't say "very intelligent". Did you know why Christ was not recognized by them? Read the whole plot about Jesus and Judaism so you will know.

Kebz, there will always people say that religion is BAD! mao na nga there are unbelievers of the same faith. Would you consider Muslims atheists because they don't believe in your religion or Buddhism as atheists because they believe in your religion, or Hinduism because they don't believe in your religion. The same with communism, they don't believe in your religion. Did you know that Muslims now are the largest religious community? Don't tell me that they are atheists because Allah to them is not Christian God.

Atheist on the other hand, lived without religion [maybe most of them] were more productive workers that those with religion? Ngano? They work during Holidays.