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    Quote Originally Posted by SQUiDnine View Post
    mangutana lang ko ha? dili naman kaayo ko updated sa PBA gud! sori kaayo! kanang nganong wala namai BAP? unsa mai hinungdan? nganong na form man dayong SBP? nganong i suspenso man sa FIBA? sensya na sa akong pangutana ha! hehehe!
    I think we can use this "history" to englighten our cause to FIBA.Let's use some news clippings that shows what the real score of BAP and SBP. I think we can use that as an evidence of the corruption of BAP

    FIBA Suspension
    In 2005, the BAP-formed Cebuana-Lhuillier Philippine National Team, made up of little-known amateur players, lost to the Parañaque Jets, owned by city Vice Mayor and comedian Anjo Yllana in the 2005 National Basketball Conference preseason tournament. The Jets were bannered by actors and showbiz personalities, while the BAP team was supposed to have been sent to represent the country in an international tournament. This led to calls from Philippine Olympic Committee President Jose "Peping" Cojuangco to reform the BAP's programs and send a national team made up of professional players from the Philippine Basketball Association.

    However, disagreements became bitter in mid-2005 as both groups wanted to have their own teams represent the country to the SEABA Men's Basketball tournament in Malaysia. The BAP also replaced Quinteliano "Tiny" Literal with former Philippine senator and Laguna governor Joey Lina as President of the basketball body. The POC intended to reform the BAP's basketball program, but the BAP resisted, and warned the POC to stay out of the situation. As the dispute continued, other National Sports Associations of the POC convened, and expelled the association as the National Sport Association for basketball in the country and created the Philippine Basketball Federation, Inc. as the new basketball governing body. The FIBA, meanwhile, continued to recognize only the BAP and instructed its leaders to sort out the issue.

    In July 2005, the International Basketball Federation (FIBA) suspended the Philippines from all FIBA-sanctioned tournaments due to disagreements between the Basketball Association of the Philippines (BAP) and the Philippine Olympic Committee.

    In late-2005, the POC received a memorandum that would pave way for the country's major stakeholders the PBA, PBL, UAAP and NCAA and Joey Lina, then-BAP President to represent the BAP to form another new association, which materialized in March 2006, and was eventually known as Pilipinas Basketball.

    However, the talks stalled when Lina backed out from the formation of the group. Pilipinas Basketball tried its luck to gain FIBA recognition from FIBA Secretary-General Patrick Baumann but was denied, urging them to "keep the course".[2]

    For the next five months, talks for a resolution remained silent.


    [edit] The Joint Communique
    During the 2006 FIBA World Championship in Saitama, Japan, the FIBA Congress was also held in conjunction with the event. Both representatives from the BAP and Pilipinas Basketball separately to meet with FIBA officials to gain recognition.[3]

    After talks with both groups, FIBA through Baumann and other representatives invited both parties to sit down and negotiate a solution.[4] After lengthy talks and reportedly some shouting matches, both groups decided to instead form a new basketball body with both members of the BAP and PB joining forces.[5][6]

    The joint communique said that both parties have promised to fix the problem within a month with a three-man panel made up of then-BAP head Lina and Pilipinas Basketball President Bernie Atienza and a neutral person to oversee the formation.

    The neutral person was supposed to have been former PBA commissioner Atty. Rudy Salud. Salud, who formed the by-laws of the PBA refused the offer due to health reasons. Eventually Lina and Atienza asked PLDT chairman Manuel V. Pangilinan to be the third person.[7][8][9]

    Eventually the by-laws were formed and a congress was due to be held in November for the election of officers.[10][11][12]

    The panel agreed to name the new organization as the Samahang Basketbol ng Pilipinas.[13]


    [edit] Lina's resignation, Jinggoy named new BAP head
    In a twist of events, Lina resigned as BAP President stalling the formation of the association.[14] It was reported that several members of the BAP were not willing to cooperate with the limited power sharing with Pilipinas Basketball.[15]

    Eventually, BAP hired Philippine senator Jinggoy Estrada, son of former Philippine President Joseph Estrada, as its president.[16][17] One of Estrada's first moves was to try and convince the POC to reinstate the BAP and also asked the Philippine Sports Commission to open the padlocked BAP office. However, those requests were denied, but Estrada was given explanation by POC President Jose Cojuangco about the reasons for the BAP expulsion.[18]


    [edit] Agreement in Hong Kong
    Two days before Christmas, Estrada and Pangilinan agreed on a power sharing that could result in the end of the FIBA suspension. Under the agreement, Estrada will be named as the SBP Chairman while Pangilinan will be named SBP President. Both also agreed on Ricky Vargas, the Talk N' Text Phone Pals Governor and Pangilinan's business aide and Lito Alvarez, the Air21 Express Governor and one of the key figures in the BAP, to be given positions in the association.[19]

    The move was lauded by many within the basketball community and gave hope for the possible return of the Philippines in international competitions.[20]


    [edit] BAP fires Estrada
    In early-January 2007, the BAP rejected the agreement between Pangilinan and Estrada, citing "Estrada's cooperating with Pilipinas Basketball move without consultation from the BAP". On January 6, 2007, the BAP released a press statement announcing the firing of Estrada as its BAP President. The position was declared vacant with Christian Tan named as interim President.[21]

    The move was blasted by PBA Commissioner Noli Eala and PBL Commissioner Chino Trinidad.[22] Senator Estrada, however, remained with the SBP to continue to formation of the association and even went to Geneva along with a group led by Pangilinan and Eala to talk with FIBA Secretary-General Patrick Baumann about the SBP's progress.[23] Baumann responded by saying that the suspension will be lifted once a new organization is formed through a Basketball Unity Congress.

    The BAP then hired track-and-field president Go Teng Kok as their BAP President.[24] Rumors also surfaced that the BAP had intended to boycott the Unity Congress and to issue a TRO but the rumors where denied by the 70-year organization.


    [edit] Unity Congress
    A week before the unity congress, both BAP and PB separately went to Bangkok for talks with Baumann and FIBA-Asia representatives. [25] After talks between leaders of both the BAP and the PB, the two groups agreed to settle differences and moved ahead with the congress.[26]

    On February 5, 2007, the Unity Congress was held formally electing Pangilinan as its president. The event was graced by members of the BAP, PB, the Philippine Olympic Committee, and a host of observers that included Baumann, who issued a statement saying the suspension has been lifted pending approval by the POC as its NSA for basketball.[27]

    As part of the approval, both agreed to call the organization as the BAP-Samahang Basketbol ng Pilipinas, Inc.


    [edit] 2008 Lawsuit
    The Court of Appeals of the Philippines' Special 11th division, on October 6, 2008, granted a 60-day temporary restraining order on Manuel V. Pangilinan's certiorari against Prospero A. Pichay, Jr. and Camarines Sur Rep. Luis Villafuerte's control of BAP-SBP. The TRO nullified the enforcement of the September 3 Manila Regional Trial Court, Branch 24 order, favoring Villafuerte's group.[28] Earlier, Manila Judge Antonio Eugenio Jr. held that "the June 12, 2008 convention-election called by the SBP faction of Pangilinan, as President, and Misamis Oriental Governor Oscar Moreno, as Chair, was null and void, and the June 4, 2008 National Congress, which was attended by majority of the stakeholders who elected former congressman Prospero Pichay as BAP-SBP president and Villafuerte as chairman, was valid." The RTC annulled the election after Villafuerte's group revealed only 19 out of the 87 member-associations attended the election while the June 4 elections was authorized by majority of the 87 stakeholders that attended the National Congress initiated by Villafuerte, as BAP-SBP chairman.[29] The decision of the Manila RTC was eventually overturned by the Court of Appeals' Special 9th division on November 18, 2008 in a 16-page decision which recognized the legitimacy of the June 12 convention-election.[30][31][32] The supposed election of Villafuerte as SBP chairman, according to the decision, had no legal basis, since the Camarines Sur congressman is not a legitimate member of the board of trustees. "Based on the Bangkok agreement forged between the warring BAP and SBP, the chairman of the SBP should be a member of the SBP board of trustees. Although Villafuerte is serving as BAP chairman, he was never a part of the merger."[1] As a result, the association formally changed its name to Samahang Basketbol ng Pilipinas. Acoording to SBP Executive Director Noli Eala: “Yes, we have dropped BAP from the official name of the legitimate national basketball association of the country” [1]


    [edit] Programs
    The main program of the SBP is the men's national basketball team. Recently, the country placed 9th in the FIBA Asia Championship in Tokushima, Japan. The FIBA Asia squad was sponsored primarily by the PBA, San Miguel Corporation and Smart Communications. The SBP is now preparing teams for the FIBA Asia Championship 2009 and 2011.

    Other programs include the women's national team, the men's under-18/19 youth squad, the women's under-18/19 youth squad, and the men's under-16/17 youth squad....

    I think we start the compliation of news clippings and send it to FIBA. I got this in wikipedia.

    from interbasket

  2. #12
    RP under BAP

    Trinidad scored the BAP for compromising national integrity by sending the Philippine College of Criminology (PCCr) varsity, reinforced by three minor league cagers, to represent the country in Taipei.

    The PCCr squad, coached by Johnny Tam, finished eighth and last in the tournament. It was the only winless entry with a final record of 0-5. The Filipinos’ five losses were blowouts as they lost to Qatar by 52, Syria by 31, Japan by 60, India by 18 and Kuwait by 22.


    The merciless beating has put the Philippines to shame. Qatar massacred the Philippines, 105-53, and Japan’s 106-46 rout was another embarrassing slaughter. Kuwait crushed the Filipinos, 88-66, yesterday in the playoff to avoid the cellar.

    I dont want to read this type of news in the near future


    OUST BAP

  3. #13
    As of June 26, 2009. 11;25PM (Manila time).
    Those who support the SBP:

    1.) skadiboy
    2.) boski
    3.) Basketballer
    4.) popoy2
    5.) dark_phoenix

  4. #14
    CLAIMS IT HAS FULL BACKING FROM FIBA ‘INSIDER’

    SBP on move to evade suspension
    By Julius Manicad
    06/27/2009

    The Samahang Basketball ng Pilipinas (SBP) yesterday revealed that it has approached an “independent body” within the International Basketball Federation (Fiba) for the much-need help in the face of brewing conflict now putting the Philippines on the brink of another possible suspension.

    SBP vice chairman Ricky Vargas expressed elation over the development, believing that the country will be able to evade the suspension while not affecting at all the participation of Powerade-Team Pilipinas which will take part in the 25th Fiba-Asia Men’s Championship in Tianjin, China.

    Though he refused to divulge the name or names, Vargas nevertheless confirmed that the Fiba executives they approached to are not part of the “barkada system” where Fiba honorary president Carl Ching Menky and Basketball Association of the Philippines (BAP) secretary-general Graham Lim belong.

    Menky is reportedly behind the creation of the special commission tasked to investigate the ongoing dispute between the SBP and the BAP. He was also said to have ordered the reinstatement of Lim as Fiba youth commission chairman despite his being of questionable personality in the local basketball circuit.

    But it was the controversial Go Teng Kok who admitted to have brokered their meeting in Hong Kong two months ago that led to the creation of a special commission. Go, the outspoken athletics chief who once handled the BAP, is said to be a close pal of Menky.

    “We’re doing something about it,” Vargas said in a hastily-called press briefing at the Philippine Basketball Association (PBA) office yesterday. “There are things going on which the SBP is doing. In fact, we already approached an independent body in Fiba to help us resolve this problem.”

    “I am very confident that we’ll not be suspended,” said Vargas, the trusted deputy of SBP president Manny Pangilinan.

    Vargas’ statement, however, came at the heels of a reported secret meeting between Lim and Powerade-Team Pilipinas team manager JB Baylon, his colleague in the PBA board of governors. Baylon represents Coca-Cola, which bankrolls Team Pilipinas’ participation from the SEABA Men’s Championship all the way to the Fiba World Championship in 2010.

    Baylon confirmed the veracity of the meeting that took place last Wednesday, but reiterated his denial over claims that he was “sleeping with the enemy.” He, however, explained his side to the PBA board of governors with PBA commissioner Renauld “Sonny” Barrios in attendance.

    He also told the PBA board that the meeting was arranged by a sportswriter.

    “Philippine basketball will not forgive you for what you’re doing,” PBA chairman Joaqui Trillo quoted Baylon’s statement to Lim. “He said it was his first time to meet him. He just only wants to protect the interest of his company.

  5. #15
    yes skadiboy

    Basketball in our country is a way of Life also as a entertainment and enterprise it should run CEO philosophy never by a politicians

  6. #16
    Now if anyone out there who have connections with the Senators and Congressmen, I think it is high time we basketball fans ask these elected officials of ours to investigate why Graham Lim remains free to wreck havoc at Philippine Basketball when the Supreme Court and Malacanang had already declared him an illegal alien and ordered him deported.

    Let's bombard these elected officials with an email or a text message on why the Philippine Government is powerless in implementing the deportation order on Graham Lim.

    Senators of the 14th Congress - Senate of the Philippines

    House Members - House of Representatives of the Philippines

    We Filipino Basketball Fans being also Philippine Citizens, we have the right to know why this individual seems to have the power to be above the law.

    Let us save Philippine Basketball .... it's time that we are heard !!!!

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  8. #18
    As of June 27, 2009. 12;54PM (Manila time).
    Those who support the SBP:

    1.) skadiboy
    2.) boski
    3.) Basketballer
    4.) popoy2
    5.) dark_phoenix
    6.) SQUiDnine

  9. #19
    Quote Originally Posted by nardy View Post
    Now if anyone out there who have connections with the Senators and Congressmen, I think it is high time we basketball fans ask these elected officials of ours to investigate why Graham Lim remains free to wreck havoc at Philippine Basketball when the Supreme Court and Malacanang had already declared him an illegal alien and ordered him deported.

    Let's bombard these elected officials with an email or a text message on why the Philippine Government is powerless in implementing the deportation order on Graham Lim.

    Senators of the 14th Congress - Senate of the Philippines

    House Members - House of Representatives of the Philippines

    We Filipino Basketball Fans being also Philippine Citizens, we have the right to know why this individual seems to have the power to be above the law.

    Let us save Philippine Basketball .... it's time that we are heard !!!!
    welcome to istorya.net sir nardy XD

  10. #20
    Quote Originally Posted by SQUiDnine View Post
    salamat skadiboy!
    way problema squid...

    hope daghan mga basketball loving fans mo besita ani na thread...


    OUST bap!

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