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  1. #311

    the only way is civil war

  2. #312
    no other way.. poor stays poor or rich people bows down to being poor and poor people embraces being rich people....

  3. #313
    Quote Originally Posted by unsay_ngalan_nimo View Post
    hahahaha.. really... the theory is funny...

    patataasin mo ang sweldo ng isng maid o janitor sa 25k.... tanong ko lang magknao dpat ang magiging sweldo ng mga amo nila dapat? tataas din diba? ganun pa rin yun... kahit hindi na lang Econ 102 Econ 11 na lang... ang pera sa bansa pa ikot-ikot lang yan...

    supply of law and demand... and inflation... ;D Rational Choice: Evaluating hyperwage theory - or, what have you learned from your basic economics? (2)

    Education and more filipinos participating in the market not as mere consumer but also as producers...
    hehehe
    mang hawa na mga investors diri sa pinas kai mahal na ang manpower
    mao baya reason nga ni ari sila sa asia kai maka tipid sila
    more savings = more profit

    dapat dili i apil sa rally ang thought nga "mga negosyante nangwarta mao nang dili dako on ang sweldo sa emplyado"

    mao baya profit baya ang gi apas sa business. nag invest sila aron maka kwarta.
    mura gud call centers. wala sila ni nag open ug branches sa philippines para mo tabang sa employment
    nag open sila sa pinas kai maka barato sila sa labor.

  4. #314
    National industrialization shall break up the present colonial pattern of investments, production and trade based mainly on the export of agricultural and extractive raw materials, the importation of finished goods and capital, and the re-export of reassembled or repackaged imported manufactures.


    The development of agriculture will make available a large amount of agricultural surplus, which used to be appropriated by a parasitic landlord class, to support the needs of industry. Agricultural growth will provide the food and raw material requirements of industry, increase the purchasing power of the rural population and thus expand the domestic market for consumer and producer goods.


    With this, raw materials such as logs, coconuts, sugar, metal ores and the like shall be processed locally. These primary products will undergo processing domestically.
    Through planning, the state shall ensure the balanced and well- proportioned development of heavy industry as the leading factor, agriculture as the base of the economy and light industry as the bridging factor which produces immediately basic consumer goods for the entire people and the producer goods needed by agriculture.



    The state shall build basic and heavy industries producing base metals, basic chemicals, energy, petrochemicals, capital equipment and precision instruments. The development of these industries shall be programmed in accordance with the availability of resources and shall be at a rate that does not exploit the people, especially the peasant masses. Light industries in the following areas shall be given priority: food, beverage and dairy industries; aquaculture and fisheries; textile and garment industries; housing; agricultural equipment; water and sanitation systems; chemical and pharmaceutical industries; electronics and telecommunications; and shipping, railway and other transport systems. Monetary and fiscal policies shall be adopted to ensure the effective utilization of domestic savings and scarce foreign exchange for national industrialization, and agricultural cooperativization and mechanization.

  5. #315
    hello there!
    "how to stop poverty" is everyone's concern. the initial step is self-discipline.
    maski unsa pa na theory or book inyo basahon, if way disciplina sa kaugalingon, wa japoy au.

  6. #316
    A system should be in place that will instill discpline among us.
    Kung unsa nga system, that I do not know yet.
    Unsa on man na ang discipline if ang systema huyang...mo breakdown ra gihapon ang discipline.

    Example of a good system.

    Adto ka sa atong mga malls (SM, Ayala, E-mall, Gaisano..etc)
    daghan kaayong tawo dinha, lain-lain lang sila ug kina-iya, adunay buotan, malditohon, naay medyo bastos, mga sexy...Pero mahibulong gyud mo nganong wala kay makita nga tawo nga nangihi sa daplin sa agi-anan. ngano kaha? is it discpline?...pero adto gawas sa malls...di ba naay mga eskina/eskinita nga baho ug angso. bahong ihi...
    sa gawas sa malls, mga tawo pataka lang ug labay ug basura (panit sa candy), pataka lang ug pangluwa,...pero sa sulod sa mall, aduna ba moy makita nga pataka lang ug pangluwa? aduna ba kamo'y makita nga pataka lang ug labay ug panit sa candy?...Nakakita ba mo ug nanigarilyo sa sulod sa mall? Pero tan-awa sa sulod sa jeepney, bisan klaro kaayo ang NO SMOKING sign...hala pabulhot gihapon sa sigarilyo.

    So, is it Discipline or a System?
    A system that will really punish offenders might just do the trick. Once it is in place, mohayag-hayag na gyud tingali ato kaugmaon.
    Last edited by leo_trams; 06-20-2009 at 07:28 PM. Reason: add

  7. #317
    kanang kwarta ug opoutunidad nag tuyok2x ra na.. kung di ka maning kamot di sad ka moasenso.. naa man gud uban basulon ang gobyerno sa ila kapobrehon nya sila way gihimo cge lang stambay

  8. #318
    tangtangon ang mga kurakot ug pabayran ang nakawat....

  9. #319
    an iron fist in the government and a vegelant, proactive citizenry.

  10. #320
    Mr Unsay Ngalan NImo.
    You actually believed the article written in Rational Choice? Are you sure you know what you are reading?

    The person who wrote it used the homeowner and the helpers salary as merely money transferred from one hand to another, and that accdg to the supposed economist who wrote that blog, the total money is the same.

    Ha ha ha ha...

    Im sure you are not an economist Mr Ngalan, and so you blindly accept the blog of an economist (blindly)...

    Why is that funny? bec the supposed economist does not even know what he is talking about.

    And here is what you should know too.. MONEY transferred from the homeowner to the helper is not a matter of 100+0= 100 and that 80+20 = 100 (the total being the same).

    NO NO NNO way...!!!! Why? Dont forget this.. and read the book bec I know you did not read the book.

    the total is not the same because MONEY is created (not conserved!!), there is MONEY multiplier, and the Keynesian multiplier.

    Read the two chapters on these topic in the Hyperwage Book.

    If you have read them and still you dont understand, then DONT pretend to know. If you dont understand, DONT talk.


    Since I read that blog too before as I googled Hyperwage, if you had a better background in economics Mr. Ngalan, you will realize that:
    - the blogger who is an economics student, shows his ignorance of economics itself, by saying that thed principle in MONEY Multiplier is DIFFERENT from the Keynesian multiplier.

    HIs fallacious reasoning? That money multiplier is due to teh banking system. What baloney! That is economic ignorance outright.

    The fact is, the same principle and mechanism works in the Money multiplier in banks and the Keynesian multiplier, and indeed teh Keynesian multiplier is the Money multiplier.

    And their underlying process? Its also in the Hyperwage book: The infinite geometric progression for r<0.

    BUt I dont think you know what that progression means. Bec if you knew what that means, and if you have read the book, then there is no other conclusion: Keynesian multiplier and the money multiplier ARE NOT different, they have the same underlying process.

    I agree with the other pro Hyperwage here, we use the same language because we have read and understood the book. I was teacher of advance calculus before, and I understood Hyperwage Theory immediately because it is mathematically consistent.

    Have you read the chapter on "Repealing the law of supply and demand?" read it. if you cant understand it, I cant be responsible for your confusion.

    Do you even understand NONLinear systems?

    All the reasoning are found in the book, Grabe! The book is self consistent and perfectly logical. The more highly educated you are, the more you realize how deep it is.

    At first, I was a negative reader because I thought "this is against econ 1" but then when I read it, I realized, it was not against econ 1. It was actually beyond econ 1. Econ 1 is merely a special case, while Hyperwage is the general theory.

    Just remember this, your friends and relatives are in the US not because they love the Philippines but because they love the Hyperwage of the USA.

    The theory is not funny. It is you who are funny.

    and money paikot ikot is NOT the same total anymore. It is actually MULTIPLIED. It is obvious you dont understand the multiplier effect.

    Now thats funny.. somebody poohing an economic theory when this person doesnt even know what a multiplier is.

    REad more, learn more.




    Quote Originally Posted by unsay_ngalan_nimo View Post
    hahahaha.. really... the theory is funny...

    patataasin mo ang sweldo ng isng maid o janitor sa 25k.... tanong ko lang magknao dpat ang magiging sweldo ng mga amo nila dapat? tataas din diba? ganun pa rin yun... kahit hindi na lang Econ 102 Econ 11 na lang... ang pera sa bansa pa ikot-ikot lang yan...

    supply of law and demand... and inflation... ;D Rational Choice: Evaluating hyperwage theory - or, what have you learned from your basic economics? (2)

    Education and more filipinos participating in the market not as mere consumer but also as producers...

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