Lumay or Gayuma~ Information, Preparation and Remedies

[bluedes]

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nagcomment ka sa imong kaugalingon na post?

[dbshawarma]

nagcomment ka sa imong kaugalingon na post?

hehehe! na sayop na bro.......ako na pislitan..........

[bluedes]

hehehe! na sayop na bro.......ako na pislitan..........

hahaha.. k ra na bro.. masipyat pud ta panagsa.. para lingaw ang life pud..
learning to laugh at ourselves..

[dbshawarma]

hehehe! mao na bro.....

[Lovely Charm]

as what i hav sed in my previous repz., each n everyone of us, has its own charm.....

if u wr to tke my place, do u have to say it? i dont think so.......gayuma has many applications not only to manipulate THE mind OF a certain person .......it cn also be used in ur daily routine, like sa work, during mitings...n etc.............etc.....in order to gain respect or in what purpose it suites you...

gayuma was created in order to support harmony n balance..........thats the true meaning of gayuma..

hope i answrd your q. mis lovely charm, n tnx for asking...............

ps: the gayuma im referring to is the orasyon type of gayuma, not the one's used as SPELLS....

yun na nga sir ang punto ko, as what youve said it has many applications not only to manipulate, but to gain respect in our daily routine, etc. di ba its clear manipulation pa rin even if you apply it in different areas of your life, its still getting what you want by manipulation, tama ba sir? and where is harmony n balance sir if we manipulate?

[bluedes]

yun na nga sir ang punto ko, as what youve said it has many applications not only to manipulate, but to gain respect in our daily routine, etc. di ba its clear manipulation pa rin even if you apply it in different areas of your life, its still getting what you want by manipulation, tama ba sir? and where is harmony n balance sir if we manipulate?

at some level, you have to manipulate.. but again, just know what the consequences are.. and be prepared to accept the consequences.. the highest level though, you don't have to manipulate anymore.. you go with the flow.. and no karma will come back to you because your actions are in line with the flow of the universe.. in fact, totally in line na sometimes you think na you are already controlling the flow around you.. and it feels so different na jud..

[Lovely Charm]

at some level, you have to manipulate.. but again, just know what the consequences are.. and be prepared to accept the consequences.. the highest level though, you don't have to manipulate anymore.. you go with the flow.. and no karma will come back to you because your actions are in line with the flow of the universe.. in fact, totally in line na sometimes you think na you are already controlling the flow around you.. and it feels so different na jud..

pa universe ka pa dyan sir, though in reality most men employ manipulation just to get what they want (w/ or w/o orasyon or gayuma) promising heaven, happiness, exclusivity of love n affection,,,sweeet words,hmmp

[regnauld]

pa universe ka pa dyan sir, though in reality most men employ manipulation just to get what they want (w/ or w/o orasyon or gayuma) promising heaven, happiness, exclusivity of love n affection,,,sweeet words,hmmp

How about most women? aren't they playing games too with men? This is just like HIDE AND SEEK! CAT AND MOUSE cycle: Manipulation and seduction!

[bluedes]

pa universe ka pa dyan sir, though in reality most men employ manipulation just to get what they want (w/ or w/o orasyon or gayuma) promising heaven, happiness, exclusivity of love n affection,,,sweeet words,hmmp

those are men who are unsure of what they want.. centrally insecure.. why do you have to employ manipulation when the natural way is the most (excuse my term) "delicious" and most satisfying way.. they just can't wait.. that's why..

but when you get to that level, in fact, you'll have fun just waiting... in fact, you'll have fun looking at people finding their ways.. and you just sit back and wait.. and wait.. people come and go.. life is good.. life is very good to those who KNOW how to wait..

[Lovely Charm]

Regknowledge sir, yah same w/ women, its human nature naman talaga to manipulate but there are those w/ extra effort pa employing gayuma/orasyon,,
what about you sir are you a victim of womens manipulation? or your a victimizer?


Bluedes sir, sound like your not one of them(men) so your free from this manipulation thing already?
very interested ka nga sa orasyon at gayoma,