The No.1 Investment Mistake You Do on or before 2009

[lorenzoleo]

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[the_guardian]

OT: abi nakog about mistakes ni about man diay ni stocks ;P

ako...kay nag-tukod ko ug tindahan sa amo purmiro kusog kay daghan mangagi karun nga naay gitukod jud sa among agi-anan wla na gyuy namalit! nah! unsaun nalang kaha ni nako...cge lang ako nalang gidivert sa lain nga business....

[graz]

stocks are moving guys.... grab some shares.....hehehe

i'm out of ammo... hehehe...

[jess]

hey graz, kmusta? what have u been buying lately?

[rusha84]

what makes the PSE a risky undertaking is the size of our markets. its so easy to manipulate for a foreign fund. take into consideration or daily trading volumes. 1b-3b max per day in peso values. thats not much for a foreign fund with billions in usd to play with. given that, market fundamentals DONT work. its more of catching something being played with and getting ready to dump when they start dumping.

you hear about everyone making money but never hear about the loses... same as the casino. manghambog sa daug hilum sa pildi!

sakto jud ni cya especially the part about our market size. It's so small that it can be easily be manipulated by a foreign fund managers labi na nang mga hedge funds coz they control large amount of money. They can cause the collapse of a smaller economy such as ours with the click of a mouse.. They've done it before during the 1997 asian crisis...it's quite inevitable that they'll do it again if they haven't already....

That's why I still think it's best that if u have to invest ur money, u have to go for an investment that would generate cashflow and not merely rely on capital gains...

[Anton]

Hello.. I haven't been around here for quite a while, been busy and all... I'd just like to share a few thoughts

a common misconception about long term investment is that your investing on something you can reap only years after.... Some long positions can be held for as little as a year. What is usually meant when one says "long term" investment is going into securities which you know are backed by sound financials and superb management, and which you know will continue to grow in years to come. Let me site an example, on page 5 of this thead (and i dont mean to gloat) , I saw AAPL was heavily being undervalued, but when i took a look at its financial(cash flow, balance sheet, etc..), I didn't find anything wrong at all. And if you took a look at the management's track record, you'd know that since 1998, sans the bubble burst of 2001, the company has been growing tremendously. And now if you took a look at its chart now, you'd see its trading at 130ish that's about 70% in 5 months if you sold now. But that was not really my first intention in going long on this security, I know that in the coming years, unless of course some great catastrophe happens (God forbid a world war happens), apple's management is going to deliver, and even in the event of a financial crisis it can survive because it has sound financials.


Also, the difference between an investment and a gamble is that on investments, you have knowledge over the outcome. You know where to put your money because you did the due diligence, you know you have a slight chance of loosing if anything untoward happens. Much like the difference between betting 1000 on a basketball game, and loaning 1000 with interest to a fishball vendor who needs more capital because he cant keep up with the demand. Huge difference, yes?
And yes you can loose alot on stocks, when you go in to something you have no idea about,and this is speculation, and to me its much worse than gambling


And as far as diversification goes, i tend to shy away from securities i know nothing about. Im a techie by nature, and i mostly go for tech securities, although I do like positions in other familiar sectors. For me diversification, is not putting placements in mining, oil, power, real estate and every sector you can think of to avoid risk of a sector tanking, your creating more of a risk for yourself when you go into something your totally clueless about. Diversification for me happens when i don't put all my investments in a single security or multiple securities that are very closely related.


Just sharing my ten cents worth I'll be out for a few months, and will check back on this discussion, and see how you guys are doing. I wish everyone good fortune, and hope your investments will be fruitful.


OT: And I quite agree on rusha84 when he says, the PSE size is small market and can be easily influenced, and thats why i stay out of it But that's my own opinion.

[jess]

we don't need to be sophisticated or complicated to invest, just follow what is DOABLE for you to reach your financial goals, but make sure you listen to the "right people" who has the "right info." most importantly, don't forget COMMON SENSE.

[rusha84]

Hello.. I haven't been around here for quite a while, been busy and all... I'd just like to share a few thoughts

a common misconception about long term investment is that your investing on something you can reap only years after.... Some long positions can be held for as little as a year. What is usually meant when one says "long term" investment is going into securities which you know are backed by sound financials and superb management, and which you know will continue to grow in years to come. Let me site an example, on page 5 of this thead (and i dont mean to gloat) , I saw AAPL was heavily being undervalued, but when i took a look at its financial(cash flow, balance sheet, etc..), I didn't find anything wrong at all. And if you took a look at the management's track record, you'd know that since 1998, sans the bubble burst of 2001, the company has been growing tremendously. And now if you took a look at its chart now, you'd see its trading at 130ish that's about 70% in 5 months if you sold now. But that was not really my first intention in going long on this security, I know that in the coming years, unless of course some great catastrophe happens (God forbid a world war happens), apple's management is going to deliver, and even in the event of a financial crisis it can survive because it has sound financials.


Also, the difference between an investment and a gamble is that on investments, you have knowledge over the outcome. You know where to put your money because you did the due diligence, you know you have a slight chance of loosing if anything untoward happens. Much like the difference between betting 1000 on a basketball game, and loaning 1000 with interest to a fishball vendor who needs more capital because he cant keep up with the demand. Huge difference, yes?
And yes you can loose alot on stocks, when you go in to something you have no idea about,and this is speculation, and to me its much worse than gambling


And as far as diversification goes, i tend to shy away from securities i know nothing about. Im a techie by nature, and i mostly go for tech securities, although I do like positions in other familiar sectors. For me diversification, is not putting placements in mining, oil, power, real estate and every sector you can think of to avoid risk of a sector tanking, your creating more of a risk for yourself when you go into something your totally clueless about. Diversification for me happens when i don't put all my investments in a single security or multiple securities that are very closely related.


Just sharing my ten cents worth I'll be out for a few months, and will check back on this discussion, and see how you guys are doing. I wish everyone good fortune, and hope your investments will be fruitful.

I think Anton knows what he is doing. Fundamental investing at work here... Can I learn from u bro?? he he he

One thing though, AAPL is apple , ryt? Sorry if I'm wrong....If it is indeed apple, I'm not really familiar with the company background pro d kaha ang reason why apple is undervalued nowadays despite of healthy indicators is the fact that Steve Jobs is sick. Pag launching sa iphone 3 GS, he was not even there even on recorded media so maybe just maybe investors tend to shy away ky they don't know the real score on the health of Steve Jobs and he is after all the man who made it all happen. Pro if ok naman ang transition ng management (w/c I absolutely have no clue about) if the worst thing happen, then its a gud investment indeed...

[jess]

ahehehe sounds family but yep i agreee

OT: randz..unsa new number nimu.bai

[jess]

have you seen Philequity Fund lately?