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  1. #331

    dli lang ta martial law lets agree with killing people who commit big crimes kay kana sila consider as evil na na agree pipz....

  2. #332

    Default how true

    Quote Originally Posted by dmcebu View Post
    Former Marcos Adviser is now GMA's Political advisers.......

    News analysis: Is Mancao's return part of con-ass plan?
    By RAISSA ROBLES
    06/03/2009 | 09:30 PM
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    Seven of eight Philippine presidents since 1953 have tried changing the Constitution. Only two succeeded: Ferdinand Marcos and Corazon Aquino.

    Marcos used a sitting Constitutional Convention and Aquino a 47-member Constitutional Commission. President Gloria Macapagal Arroyo initially tried a Constitutional Commission in 2005, and when that didn't work, a constituent assembly, which is what Congress formed on the late
    evening of June 2.
    People Power may erupt amid 'desperate' Cha-cha move – analysts

    Another “People Power" might erupt following the “desperate" move of administration lawmakers to railroad the approval of a measure transforming the House of Representatives into a constituent assembly to change the 1987 Constitution, three political analysts interviewed by GMANews.TV warned on Wednesday.

    "The merger [of Lakas-CMD and the Kabalikat ng Malayang Pilipino] and the approval of House Resolution 1109 were both fast-tracked. Obviously, somebody also wants to fast-track Cha-cha [Charter change], implying that elections won’t push through," said Ramon Casiple, executive director of the Institute for Political and Economic Reform. More


    The 2005 effort borrowed heavily from the techniques used by the dictator Marcos in 1972. Among them: bodily lifting provisions from the Marcos constitution that would have given Arroyo strong powers and the use of "fast-tracked amendments" to the Constitution. Mrs. Arroyo even relied on some of the people Marcos had used, among them Jose Abueva, Gabriel Claudio and Victor Ortega

    (see author's stories for the Philippine Center for Investigative Journalism
    http://pcij.org/stories/2006/charter...charter2.html; As in 1973, the Ball is in the Supreme Court)

    The current approach that's now unfolding is more subtle. Senators have laughed at the House approval of a constituent assembly as “stupid," “insane," “a joke" and “useless."

    Senate President Juan Ponce Enrile bluntly said any amendments should be done jointly by the House and the Senate. “Ako ay nagturo ng constitutional law, I studied constitutional law as a student, as a lawyer, as a professor. I’m still studying it as a senator. E sabi ko hindi magagawa ng House of Representatives yan sapagkat the House of Representatives with due respect is not Congress."

    He might yet be proven wrong.

    The present game plan might be that the House, sitting as a constituent assembly, will suddenly change the form of government to parliamentary. Their opponents then wouldn't be able to bring the case to the Supreme Court immediately - it would not yet be what is called a "justiciable issue" because, as noted constitutionalist Fr. Joaquin Bernas explains, there's no controversy involved.

    Bernas says the case could only become justiciable if the Lower House bypasses the Senate and goes straight to the Commission on Elections to order up a plebiscite on constitutional amendments it wants.

    At that point, the Comelec would be compelled to say that it can't conduct a plebiscite without the Senate's approval - and the case will then go to the Supreme Court.

    In the meantime there could be other decisive external events. Years ago, Enrile himself revealed how, as Marcos' defense secretary in 1972, he had helped arrange a bogus assassination attempt on himself to help justify the declaration of martial law. Incidentally, among those who helped Marcos seize power and certify it through a rigged
    constitution were two Constitutional Convention delegates: Gabriel Claudio (currently Arroyo's political strategist) and Victor Ortega (currently the house committee chairman on constitutional amendments).

    What Marcos did was to declare martial law and using dictatorial powers, staged "citizens assemblies" to "approve" his rigged constitution. He then compelled the Supreme Court to approve what he had done by arguing it had no choice but to obey the "people's will."

    The Arroyo administration rushed to bring home former police Senior Superintendent Cezar Mancao II. He is scheduled to arrive in the Philippines Thursday morning. The haste to resolve a nine-year old double murder case seems inexplicable.

    One possible explanation: Mancao will blame the deposed president Joseph Estrada and his key aide, Senator Panfilo Lacson.

    When this happens, government will file a murder case against Estrada and order his arrest. Given Estrada's popularity, he and his followers could resist this. Remember that in 2001, when the deposed president was arrested for plunder, his followers mounted a bloody assault on Malacañang Palace.

    A similar incident now could be an ostensible reason for Mrs. Arroyo to declare a state of emergency or martial rule. During that period, Congress (which is mostly in Mrs. Arroyo's pocket), would not be abolished. In fact, because it had already conveniently declared itself a constituent assembly, it could be used to propose amendments ostensibly to remedy the emergency. It would see the creation of a new order.

    As for the military trying to assert its role to protect and defend the Constitution, last May a changing of the guards took place. Armed Forces Chief of Staff Alexander Yano retired prematurely and gave way to his classmate, Lieutenant General Victor Ibrado. More significantly, Arroyo's most trusted general, Delfin Bangit, became head of the biggest bulk of the military, the 70,000-strong Army.

    And when Ibrado retires early next year or even this year, Bangit, the former head of the Presidential Security Group, is widely expected to assume the top post. It's the closest thing to Marcos' General Fabian Ver. - GMANews.TV

    (Raissa Robles is a journalist who has been covering politics since 1983 for Business Day, Manila Chronicle, Business Star and Philippine Star. She is currently senior Manila correspondent of South China Morning Post (HK) and Radio Netherlands.)

    SHARE YOUR OPINION and analyze the situation...........
    onsa ni ka tinood

  3. #333
    onsa ni ka tinood
    read the news tan.awa ang paligid sa kongreso... tan.awa ang ilang gibuhat nya maka question paka na onsa ni ka tinuod?

  4. #334
    PSSST... ka layo na ninyo oi. abot naman mo sa ila erap ug lacson, abot pa jud mo sa mindanao...
    oist pag madayon ning cha-cha sure ko na magkagubot jud kay di man ni supportado nang mga katawhan.
    so kung magkagubot mo declare dayon c Gloria ng Martial Law. Its that simple..

    dili na ni Gloria kinaganglan ang Con-Ass kung ang iya ra diay gamiton para martial law kay si Cesar Mangcao ra... or pwede pud ko masayop, pwede pud dunganon ang Mangcao ug Cha-cha para mas gubot..

    hehe...

    oist sa mindanao ba ayaw pud mo pag ingon na nagdula-dula ra cla.. naa man mga report na gibaligya ra mga BALA ug ARMAS ng Army sa mga rebelde pero wla mag ingon na cla tanan nagdula-dula ra..
    Naa man pud uban mga sundalo sa army na magpahinay-hinay ug abot sa gubat kay naa man pud cla pamilya, wala na mag pasabot na kauban ra na cla, o nagsabot ra na cla..

  5. #335

    Default Martial Law

    39 years to this day have passed since the declaration of Martial Law by then President Ferdinand Marcos.

    Most of those who are here in this Forum were likely not born yet. Perhaps a few were 'martial law babies', that is, born between 1972 and 1981. A handful may be 'edsa 1' babies.

    But what are really your impressions of these events? Have you ever felt that these impacted on your life now?

  6. #336

    Default Re: Martial Law

    of course, pirting dakua...

  7. #337

    Default Re: Martial Law

    pwerteng kadako sa impact.. mas daghan nagud ang korakot ron tungod ato..

  8. #338

    Default Re: Martial Law

    A generation has grown up with no memory of the days when long hair, mini skirts and rock music were banned, and a curfew was imposed ostensibly in the name of peace and order. That generation has no memory of a “new society” where the press was muzzled, protest rallies were prohibited, and enemies of those in power disappeared, never to be seen again.

    For those who dared criticize the Marcos regime, those were days of living in fear: of the knock on the door in the dead of night, of state forces armed with ASSOs or arrest, search and seizure orders that allowed the dictatorship to detain anyone indefinitely without formal charges, of being stripped naked and subjected to electric shocks to the genitals.

    Such atrocities, if forgotten, can be repeated and martial law again imposed. As leaked cables from the US embassy in Manila show, martial law continued to be an option for suppressing political dissent, nearly two decades after the people power revolt toppled the Marcos dictatorship.
    source: Philstar

  9. #339

    Default Re: Martial Law

    gawas sa human rights violations. naka pondo pa gyud ug 987 billion dollars si Marcos. gihimo lang nila personal collections ang mga paintings ni Michaelangelo, Pissarro, Picasso, etc. pero ang tibouk Pilipinas dako na kaayo nga issue ang pag palit sa GSIS ug painting ni Juan Luna. matod pa ni Marcos "It's hard to earn money Honestly and Properly". mao mangurakot na lang.

    kanang mga kurakot karon nila Gloria, pondo sa PCSO,AFP,etc sinsilyo ra na kung i-compare panahon sa Martial Law. mao to ila gippatay si Ninoy kay desidido man gyud mo stop sa Martial Law.
    check this video Marcos treasure - YouTube
    NINOY AQUINO's last recorded phone call before returning to Manila!!! - YouTube

  10. #340

    Default Re: Martial Law

    daghan gi salvage hilabi na ug mo kontra ka sa goberno..

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