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    Quote Originally Posted by regnauld View Post
    ^ Are you saying that the Roman Catholic Church is the true church of GOD?
    I don't think so. Your religion is just one of the religions and there is nothing special about it!
    Mr. REG

    I am diffinitely sure that i belong to the true church which GOD has created, I can prove it biblically and historically, can you prove yours? If you dont have that strong faith in what you believe in then your just like a trush of the trashcan that flows wherever the wind goes.

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    maybe it would be much better if we should ask "true catholic members?"

    aheheheh.\


    am i a true catholic member?

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    Quote Originally Posted by st.anthony View Post
    Mr. REG

    I am diffinitely sure that i belong to the true church which GOD has created, I can prove it biblically and historically, can you prove yours? If you dont have that strong faith in what you believe in then your just like a trush of the trashcan that flows wherever the wind goes.
    What if your church is not the only church of GOD? Will you accept that Buddhism, Islam, Hinduism are also part of GOD? My point is NO RELIGION IS THE ONE TRUE RELIGION even if you prove it historically and biblically speaking. Do you think that your church is the only church of GOD? Then why was your church committed the most horrible crimes during the DARK AGES if it was the only true church of GOD?

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    Quote Originally Posted by regnauld View Post
    What if your church is not the only church of GOD? Will you accept that Buddhism, Islam, Hinduism are also part of GOD? My point is NO RELIGION IS THE ONE TRUE RELIGION even if you prove it historically and biblically speaking. Do you think that your church is the only church of GOD? Then why was your church committed the most horrible crimes during the DARK AGES if it was the only true church of GOD?
    YES of curse I DO FIRMLY BELIEVE that my church is the true church of GOD,even all the crimes if its what you call them even all the scandals, but still its HOLY and TRUE, since the TRUE CHURCH OF GOD my MATER ECCLESEI is goverened by men intrusted by GOD. how about your church? is it goverened by GOD himself, or SATAN maybe or an ANGEL?

    Before you say crimes of the church, its just show how poor your understanding to CHRISTIAN RELIGION and its history.

    Have you have tried to read the old testament or even its part? I think since if you have you would not even say HORRIBLE CRIMES.

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    these guys rebel and disagree of the papacy (pope of Rome).. during their separation to the Roman church they begin to make their own doctrice in most cases parehas ra sa Roman Catholic and they also call themselves as "Catholic" but not Roman Catholic.. by the way Orthodox means "right believer" as we all know all Christian denominations claims this..

    Photius of Constantinople mao ni cya ila leader not sure though.. isearch lang ang name to know his story on why he leave and made another christain denomination ..
    Last edited by dartzed; 06-01-2009 at 04:59 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by regnauld View Post
    What if your church is not the only church of GOD? Will you accept that Buddhism, Islam, Hinduism are also part of GOD? My point is NO RELIGION IS THE ONE TRUE RELIGION even if you prove it historically and biblically speaking. Do you think that your church is the only church of GOD? Then why was your church committed the most horrible crimes during the DARK AGES if it was the only true church of GOD?
    Bro Reg, don't all major religions make claims to the truth? I think they each have mutually exclusive claims, so that if one of them were able to prove that their truth claims are true, it necessarily follows that the others are not true.

    I don't think that the crimes of the Church in the past has any bearing on whether its truth claims are true or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by josephdc View Post
    Bro Reg, don't all major religions make claims to the truth? I think they each have mutually exclusive claims, so that if one of them were able to prove that their truth claims are true, it necessarily follows that the others are not true.

    I don't think that the crimes of the Church in the past has any bearing on whether its truth claims are true or not.
    NO not all religions claim that they are the only true religion. Buddhism and Hinduism don't even claim that they are the only church of GOD. Speaking of Buddhism, Gautama Buddha did not even talk about GOD and their monks were always silent about their religion when it comes to their teachings. Only Christianity and some religions are always noisy and loud when it comes to their pronouncements that they are the true church of GOD especially the cults of Christianity!

    Well, the PAST is the TRUE REALITY! The Roman Church has been haunted by the horrible crimes committed during the DARK AGES and right now not even mentioning the sexual abuses committed by the clergy! Well, that is the DARK SIDE of CATHOLICISM! There were even popes that were corrupt and ruthless! That is just my observation and study!
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    ^ I'm not saying all religions, I meant the major ones at least. Their claims are mutually exclusive. Buddhists don't believe in a God, right? (Although I think there's a variety of Buddhism which do believe in a God.) That belief mutually excludes the theistic religions. Hinduism believes in millions of gods, so it mutually excludes the belief of monotheistic religions.

    Those crimes did happen in the past, but do they have any bearing on whether the truth claims of Christianity are true or not? I don't think so. But yes, those crimes did happen and they are rightly condemned.

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    But yes, those crimes did happen and they are rightly condemned.
    Abusively used too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by josephdc View Post
    ^ I'm not saying all religions, I meant the major ones at least. Their claims are mutually exclusive. Buddhists don't believe in a God, right? (Although I think there's a variety of Buddhism which do believe in a God.) That belief mutually excludes the theistic religions. Hinduism believes in millions of gods, so it mutually excludes the belief of monotheistic religions.

    Those crimes did happen in the past, but do they have any bearing on whether the truth claims of Christianity are true or not? I don't think so. But yes, those crimes did happen and they are rightly condemned.
    No. It did not say that Buddhism doesn't believe in GOD, They just don't talk about the concept of GOD. We have to remember that Buddha was a Hindu during his time and he believed in GOD but when he became ENLIGHTENED he stopped talking about GOD!

    No, Hinduism doesn't have millions of gods. The gods that you are referring are actually the HOLY TRITNITY, Namely:

    Brahman - GOD the Father,
    Krishna - GOD the Son
    Shiva - GOD, the Holy Spirit

    ALL ARE ONE and not separate!

    Peace!

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