Dokken revisited

[jamespegarido]

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glad to know that bro berserker...& it really doesn't matter if you're not a guitarist...this thread is for all of us who love hard rock & heavy metal music...especially from bands that played within the decade of rock - the 80s...

hoping that more of our metal bros would drop by & share whatever they might want to share about the music we so love...be it fave tunes, band news, or be it anything...as this thread would only be as good as the rockers who pitch in to keep it alive...

Trivia : george lynch released a scorpions tribute album in 2008 entitled 'scorpion tales'...a compilation of fave scorpions tunes that george has 'lynchized' guitarwise, it features famous 80s band frontmen giving their best shot at belting it klause meine style...

songs covered in this glorious collection & corresponding singers :
rock you ike a hurricane - kelly hansen (hurricane/foreigner)
still loving you - steve whiteman (kix)
falling in love - marq torien (bullet boys)
big city nights - kevin dubrow (quiet riot) *R.I.P. 2007 cocaine overdose
blackout - stevie rachelle (tuff)
no one like you - jizzy pearl (love/hate)
the zoo - joe leste (bang tango)
steamrock fever - phil lewis (l.a. guns)
in trance - kory clarke (warrior soul)
he's a woman, she's a man - john corabi (union)
holiday - paul shortino (rough cutt)
& lovedrive - taime downe (faster pussycat)...

[james_mustaine]

nice infos bout the scorpions.. its a lovedrive on wheels of fire, lovedrive one desire...feels like the early years..or shall i say the animal magnetism stings again.. my cd deadly sting is always somewhere near my amps.. i can still remember i had that scorpions japan, tokyo tour 1985. that betamax tape just vanished without a trace. and in that concert, mathias jabs used a talkbox in performing the zoo. i thought richie sambora was the first guitarist using that kind of instrument.. no bro im not fed up with my metal zone. still here beside the mega dist and chorus. i like having lots of dist choices. soon i will dispose this bad monkey overdrive, post it in the music forum and planning for a boss modulation.. and hey dieseldust, i got no clues on why they left off dark lady, hes a woman, shes a man.. classic songs there. (by the way man exact answer only lonely bon jovi) i never even heared of lonesome crow and intrance either except the popular singles. or the radio-friendly tunes...and i see the tears in your eyes... tricky screaming lead of uli. i like also is there anybody there, as soon as the good times roll, crossfire. i could say mathias is the man and so his white explorer or black strat.
from now on man i will throw my questions to you. i now consider you evh or lynch of my reach. gonna prepare all my questions for the coming threads. i feel comfortably numb with your answers man with regards to all this guitar and stuff.. lets get back to evh a bit.. did you know that eddies influence was eric clapton. evh wanted to be cream junior. but i wonder why eddie didnt pursue blues guitar. anyways what he has done through the years shocked guitarists worldwide. he became almost everyones guitar hero. i forgot to mention that i like the clean intro to "hear about it later" and push comes to shove. i like his volume swells. ive read here in my magazine that paul gilbert once asked himself wheter evh invented potting.. i dont know all this technical terms but what im sure is people wanted to be like him. its like a researching evh ingredients. of course, the simplest tool that eddie used in his epic tone was God-given: his hands.

[jamespegarido]

hehe...come on man...i never said i was god...but like i said, i'd be more than glad to share what little info i have with you & with us all...i'm just somebody who listens & plays evh & lynch tunes man...i'm nothing compared to them...they composed the material...i just learn them...

yeah, i read about evh's clapton influence somewhere...but all i can do is scratch my head & cross my brows...i just can't find any evidence of that anywhere in evh's playing...clapton's slowhand - evh's overspeeding fingers? whah?!! even in their song structures, no similarities whatsoever man... anyways...that's that...

in hear about it later evh tinkers around with the flanger...& it is very audible in the intro...i remember forcing a friend to sell me his ibanez flanger coz i wanted it for that song's intro...i learned that song from an lp record (plaka), as i did almost all vh songs i learned...

from what i know it was legendary blues guitarist robert johnson who was the earliest to have used volume swelling in his guitar style...then there was albert king, bb king...in rock, i believe jeff beck did some pot twisting of his own too...even iommi did it in technical ecstacy & never say die...

whoa!...paul gilbert...another idol of mine...excelled in racer x & mr. big if you ask me...very clean arpeggios (picked notes) & great technique inserting legattos (sounding notes with only the fingers of the left hand) for more speed & accentuation...

the real secret behind guitar playing skill lies in the guitarist's brain...i learned that musician's brains are constructed differently from those of lesser to none musically oriented individuals (i read that somewhere)...& that's why skills differ between any two guitarists...& why there are those who become virtuosos...& why some cannot...

trivia : in a guitar clinic he conducted in chile, paul gilbert played the spice girls song '2 become 1', playing guitar & singing the song at the same time...when asked why he chose to play that song, gilbert chidingly replied, 'it's a perfect equation'...

[james_mustaine]

so you're also a paul gilbert fan like me. i love lean into it and bump ahead...what about that japandemonium tour of mr big when paul gilbert played the intro riff of aint talkin bout love. people started screamin and suddenly eric martin shouted NOT!! then goes their main riff.. i didnt have racer x. too bad for me but instead i got tony mcalpine and cacophony. bet you got also an album of them. jason becker is paralized and marty friedman went on to fulfill pop music.
sorry if i offended you man but you really got me. your stories, terminologies on techniques of guitars, all are very practical. but one thing i will never become one of those pros. i will just remain with the way im riffing or stuck to my style. if i mastered guitar at younger age, maybe il be yngwie or satch now.. the song remains the same.
bro you familiar with these bands boyz and xciter.. george lynch's early bands.. whats their style.. maybe another "thick chorus or lots of delays on solid-state amps" music.. i just read this in my guitar one magazine. i got the issue of "hair bands literally".
that song so this is love of evh is also fav of mine. early 80s kind of evh style. just like girl gone bad, house of pain. for me, diver down album was effortlessly done. no song in that album that appeared on their greatest hits cd.. lets talk 5150 a bit.. "inside" sounds like a session or meeting themselves and accidentally recorded it on tape..

[Robotman]

[QUOTE=james_mustaine;4665680] i still remember when me and my dude planned to create an electric guitar evh copy. i said to him its impossible. and he said wel just have this page from a circus magazine which has a schematic diagram about guitar like pick ups or useful infos photocopied and ask a carpenter to cut from a mahogany piece of wood for guitar body and then wel be naturally wired..all fired up.. but we never had it done.

U should had it done bro...its fun...we got a bit similarity in the past during school days...after i saw scorpions' rock u lyk a hurricane music video during my college days i got huge interest owning a flying v one that rudolf used in that music video...it's quite small in size, colored brown..man i just love that guitar...i decided to build my own flying v with the help of my friend who is an electronic student and another musician friend who taught me how to build it...the neck of the guitar was built by him and the rest were done by me..the electronic circuits were handled by my friend studying electronics...and after all the hard works, finally it works and it rocks...sadly it was now broken, its body didnt last longer...we used ordinary woods totally came from junks...hehehe...just an experiment..its pick-ups were sold...

[james_mustaine]

thats one regret i wont ever forget robotman. during high school we planned to create that electric guitar for also pasikat purposes. specifically an evh frankenstrat prototype. but to my knowledge, i really thought that making such guitar is impossible or beyond -our- imagination cause and effect. and yes bro we were also influenced by rudolf schenker. luckily today, i got a flying V gibson copy. those days, i could say we got lots of support from other people because we know some who could perform carpentry or even painting and electronics. we never accepted the challenge. i blame myself for that. and today in case i wanted to do it again, create that guitar, its very cool coz i had sources. all guys in this certain thread inspires me a lot. you know who you are.. its early morning the sun comes out, last night was shaking pretty loud...

[jamespegarido]

yeah, i really dig mr. big...i dig all their albums, the self-titled 1s my fave...yah i do have that jap tour video...it's a real shame that they disbanded...i got the complete works of tony mcalpine...& also got cacophony's speed metal symphony here...as well as jason becker's perpetual burn album...becker : such a tragic story, what a waste...friedman : still searching for his real calling...hehe...

hey, none taken man...we're cool bro...so let's get rocked!!! hehe...i have xciter's self-titled demo disc...lynch style really hasn't honed to the max yet with xciter...though his fiery playing here shows the early beginnings of his sig style which is more pronounced in dokken's breaking the chains album...xciter is overall a raw & raunchy kid gloves album - so to speak...yet it still kicks some a**... tracks include sleepless nights, black star, paris is burning, dream dream. among others...xciter was formed in 1978 spinning off from boyz, with lynch & brown...don was still with the band airborne then...

so this is love is 1 catchy tune, i dig it too, as i do all tracks in warning...unchained is really cool too... the voices that we hear in 5150s last track inside were candid, & were taken from an actual studio control room tape during 1 of the 5150 sessions, conceptualized by don landee (album producer), here we hear hagar jokes about why the guys chose him as dave's replacement...

my fave tunes : 5150, summer nights, why can't this be love, dreams...

trivia : 'the full bug' from vh's diver down album was formerly titled 'best part of a man'...reportedly written about the same time as the rest of the tracks in vh's 1st album, it was shelved by album producer ted templeman for a later release...it was only during the diver down sessions that templeman remembered the tune he had stashed away...& so it was cut into the album, but with the new title...

[james_mustaine]

i was about to ask that best part of a man. isnt that a line and not the title..yes now i recall its the full bug. dave keeps on singing that line and i was confused in the earlier threads. i believe it was the last line of the song then came eddies guitar singing part. and dont you forget DOA riff man. i only got one album of mcalpine and cacophony. it was even just a recorded tape using rca lines. production was little fuzzy not to mention it was still played on cassette..but at least its auto reverse and the one with equalizer .. its like the atari years..
i forgot to ask you man.. i know youve seen back to the future.. do you remember the part when michael j. fox went back to 1955. he brought along with him a sony walkman. theres that van halen tape he played in the earphones just to wake george mcfly. my question is whats that riff or song? its not in the first or second album. 5150 was not yet recorded because it came out 1986 with sammy. my guess was good enough or get up and was just recorded earlier. not sure.
boyz and xciter sounds like inspirational album and you can here the evidence to breaking the chains. by the way i had not yet heared breaking the chains, i just use my illusion that dokken was in fact maturing.. attractive cover album. world covered by claw. very creative. but beast from the east is my fav cover album concept. literally japan made.
ive seen your gears posted in the modulation thread. cool boss thrusty trio. the settings were all set to 12:00 so nobody knows the secret hehe. we got same dirt pedal but i only got ch1 as modulation. nice reverb. just incase you get fed up with it, throw it to me in honor of our hero evh heheh. try to post some pic here. for our unlawful carnal knowledge. i mean views..my problem is i dont know how to post pic. i got no problem on camera coz my bayaw is a professional photojournalist and i just ask him to shoot my gears. anyways the md2 backed up with reverb rv3 or rv5 is living our life like theres no tomorow. all your trivias are nice man, keep on going with it not only on eddie but how bout those underated other glam bands.. its been a decade or more since i got nobody to talk with when it comes to fav bands from the past. you know what i mean man. its like ozzy.. talk that talk, walk that walk..

[YM24]

payter kaau nang bandaha..pang metal gud kaau..

[jamespegarido]

yeah, i can never forget any vh tune...d.o.a., very typically evh lead break...tony mcalpine is such an accomplished musician & plays guitars & keyboards as well...last i know he was on the g3 tour playing keyboards & 2nd guitar to vai...i have both the speed metal symphony & get off! albums of cacophony,which were both produced by mike varney(gilbert, howe, kotzen, mcalpine, friedman, moore producer)...

becker got the break of his life when, in 1989, david lee roth pitched him in to replace vai who went to join whitesnake...it was during this time that jason was diagnosed with lou gehrig's disease...barely, he was able to complete the album entitled 'a little ain't enough' 1991 due to his worsening condition...& was unable to join the supporting tour...joe holmes (former lizzy borden) took his place for the tour...

back to the future...have the set in my collection...yah, notice the label on the casette that j. fox puts into the walkman...it's edward van halen, & not van halen...actually, that piece was an original composition that evh made specifically for the movie, & it is untitled...this after negotiations between the movie producers & the band vh to use material from their albums failed...so there you are...

where did you see that breaking the chains cover bro? on my breaking the chains cd cover all that there is is the dokken logo superimposed on some circular asymetric spiraling pattern in the background...on the tooth & nail album cover, there is an evil looking clawlike hand coming out of a body of water, & poised below the dokken logo, yet still no globe...

you're right man...if you get to listen to lynch's bands in chronological order, you can actually see his playing ability & style progressing, honing, & maturing...lynch's guitar playing prowess peaked in the tooth & nail & under lock & key, if i were to say...

thanks bro for your kind comment on my trusty trio (or the 3 that i trust)...somehow for me these 3 are all i need for my sound...& i can't ask for anything else...i'd probably be taking them to the grave...hehe...or so to speak...

no problem, come to think of it, i was kinda fed up of that little pink piglet stuffed toy in the pic's background...& in reverence to both evh & lynch, i'd glady throw it at you anytime you want...hahaha!!!...(joke)

'i'm the one' is 1 heavy hitter...imagine the look on the audience faces gaping at you playing it live...i just dig that rapid fire intro...& the lead breaks man, way cool dude! alex is just hyper with his drums here too...super tune!!!...

trivia : 'women & children 1st' & 'fair warning' are the only 2 vh album titles that were actually mentioned in song lyrics... in the songs 'could this be magic' & 'mean street' respectively... in 'unchained', album producer ted templeman makes a cameo with his 'come on dave, gimme a break'...to which dlr obligingly replies 'hehe, 1 break, coming up!'...
in the mid 70s, prior to their team up in vh, dlr sang in a band called 'red ball jets', while vh bros alex & eddie were with 'mammoth'...it was reportedly dlr's idea to change the band's name to van halen...