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    THE LIBERAL CATHOLIC CHURCH

    Summary of the Doctrine.


    1. The Liberal Catholic Church teaches the existence of God, infinite, eternal, transcendent and immanent. He is the one essence from which all forms of existence are derived. 'In him we live and move and have our being' (Acts 17:2.
    2. God manifests in his universe as a Trinity, called in the Christian religion Father, Son and Holy Spirit, three Persons in one God, co-equal and co-eternal; the Father the cause of all, the Son the Word who was made flesh and dwelt among us, the Holy Spirit the life-giver, the inspirer and sanctifer.
    3. Man is a complex of spirit, soul and body. The spirit of man made in the image of God is divine in essence. Therefore he cannot cease to exist, he is eternal and his future is one whose glory and splendour have no limit.
    4. Christ ever lives as a mighty spiritual presence in the world, guiding and sustaining his people. The divinity which was manifest in him is gradually being unfolded in every man until each shall come 'unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ' (Eph. 4:13).
    5. The world is the theatre of an ordered plan, according to which the spirit of man, by repeatedly expressing himself in varying conditions of life and experience, continually unfolds his powers. This spiritual unfoldment takes place under an inviolable law of cause and effect. 'Whatsoever a man soweth that shall he also reap' (Gal. 6:7). His doings in each physical incarnation largely determine his experience after death in the intermediate world (or world of purgation) and the heavenly world, and greatly influence the circumstances of his next birth. Man is a link in a vast chain of life extending from the highest to the lowest. As he helps those below him, so also he is helped by those who stand above him on the ladder of life, receiving thus a free gift of grace. There is a communion of saints, just men made perfect or holy ones, who help mankind. There is a ministry of angels.
    6. Man has ethical duties to himself and to others. 'Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart and with all thy soul and with all thy mind. This is the first and great commandment and the second is like unto it, thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. On these two commandments hang all the Law and Prophets'. (Matt.22:37-40). It is the duty of man to learn to discern the divine light in himself and others, that light 'which lighteth every man' (John. 1:9). Because men are sons of God they are brothers and inseparably linked together. That which harms one harms the entire brotherhood. Hence a man owes it as a duty to the God both within himself and others, first, to endeavour constantly to live up to the highest that is in him, thereby enabling that God within himself to become more perfectly manifest, secondly, to recognize the fact of that brotherhood by constant effort towards unselfishness, by love of, consideration for, and service to his fellow-men. The service of humanity, reverence for all life and the sacrifice of the lower self to the higher are laws of spiritual growth.
    7. Christ instituted various sacraments in which an inward and spiritual grace is given to us through an outward and visible sign. There are seven rites which may be ranked as sacraments, namely, Baptism, Confirmation, the Holy Eucharist, Absolution, Holy Unction, Holy Matrimony, Holy Orders. The doctrine of these sacraments is sufficiently set forth in the authorized Liturgy of The Liberal Catholic Church. Christ, the living head of the church which he founded, is the true minister of all sacraments.

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    The doctrine of these sacraments is sufficiently set forth in the authorized Liturgy of The Liberal Catholic Church. Christ, the living head of the church which he founded, is the true minister of all sacraments.
    remind me again reg, if you trashed the doctrine or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by handsoff241 View Post
    remind me again reg, if you trashed the doctrine or not.
    What doctrine?

    I think im more at home in the Liberal Catholic Church because it is founded in Theosophical ideas and Esoteric Christianity which includes Christian Mysticism.

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    What doctrine?
    the Roman Catholic doctrine.
    Liberal Catholic Church because is founded in Theosophical ideas and Esoteric Christianity which includes Christian Mysticism.
    so you stopped believing in the Roman Catholic doctrine and felt more at home on the Liberal Catholicism, even though it was a product (out of selected doctrines) of the Roman Catholic doctrine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by handsoff241 View Post
    the Roman Catholic doctrine.

    so you stopped believing in the Roman Catholic doctrine and felt more at home on the Liberal Catholicism, even though it was a product (out of selected doctrines) of the Roman Catholic doctrine.
    I think the word "Catholic" does not belong and specify only for the Romans. But I respect the Roman Catholic doctrine.

    As I have said, I respect the Roman doctrine but I have transcended the doctrine side and embraced more on the mystical side which is Esoteric and Mystical in nature.

    WE ARE ONE! I AM A CATHOLIC in the broadest sense of the word but not exclusively ROMAN!

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    as what you have said personally.

    but what part of the RC doctrine that you, let us say "deny"?

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    after Jesus ascended...

    the apostles went on...

    they made a big break at Rome under Peter's servant leadership...

    thus, if you're Catholic...remember it(term) started at Rome...

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    Quote Originally Posted by handsoff241 View Post
    as what you have said personally.

    but what part of the RC doctrine that you, let us say "deny"?
    Some of the doctrines that I find in the Roman Church are not really accurate but it could be symbolic. Like Jesus birth on December 25, virgin birth and the literal ressurection of jesus from the dead. These are pagan ideas borrowed from the pagan religions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by regnauld View Post
    Some of the doctrines that I find in the Roman Church are not really accurate but it could be symbolic. Like Jesus birth on December 25, virgin birth and the literal ressurection of jesus from the dead. These are pagan ideas borrowed from the pagan religions.
    i cannot wholly agree reg, i see you have been reading that book you showed me.
    can i borrow it so i can have an understanding as to how it made you believe, a man of your caliber.

    or can you give me the title and author so i can search for an e-book version.

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    Quote Originally Posted by handsoff241 View Post
    i cannot wholly agree reg, i see you have been reading that book you showed me.
    can i borrow it so i can have an understanding as to how it made you believe, a man of your caliber.

    or can you give me the title and author so i can search for an e-book version.
    Ok I respect your position and you might want to read and study the book "The Jesus Mysteries" by: Timothy Freke and Peter Gandy

    The Jesus Mysteries: Was the "Original Jesus" a Pagan God? is a 1999 book by Timothy Freke and Peter Gandy that claims to reconstruct the true origins of Christianity. It relies heavily on the Gnostic gospels found at Nag Hammadi. Prior to publishing Jesus Mysteries, Freke and Gandy had collaborated in writing books on mysticism and paganism. The authors suggest that a number of pagan mystery religions, such as those of Osiris, Dionysus, Attis, and Mithras, were all manifestations of a single cult of a dying and rising "godman" myth, whom they call Osiris-Dionysus. The authors propose that Jesus did not really exist, but was instead a syncretic re-interpretation of the fundamental pagan "godman" by the Gnostics, who were the original sect of Christianity. Orthodox Christianity, according to them, was not the predecessor to Gnosticism, as almost all scholars believe, but a later outgrowth that rewrote history in order to make literal Christianity appear to predate the Gnostics. They describe their theory as the "Jesus Mysteries thesis."
    The book, originally published in the UK, apparently sold quite well in the UK and US[citation needed]. Its sequel, Jesus and the Lost Goddess, has been included by Dan Brown in a list of books relating

    The Jesus Mysteries
    The cover of The Jesus Mysteries features a gem of Dionysus/Orpheus.AuthorTimothy Freke & Peter GandyCountryUnited KingdomLanguageEnglish



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