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    Quote Originally Posted by Abing View Post
    ahahhahahhaha, di man guro.. doctor baya si manny
    masakit pd ra ba ng doctor ha. matud pa ni manny nga mag hand washing dw cya prmi pra dli dw cya matakdan ani nga sakit. unsa khay hitsura sa mga boxers noh wyl mgboxing ky mgsul-ob og mask?

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    Quote Originally Posted by manabu_kun View Post
    Evidence for benefits from treatment in studies of seasonal influenza is strongest when treatment is started within 48 hours of illness onset. However, some studies of treatment of seasonal influenza have indicated benefit, including reductions in mortality or duration of hospitalization even for patients whose treatment was started more than 48 hours after illness onset. Recommended duration of treatment is five days....

    @mam dorothea: kasabot sad ta anang duration mam oi.. basin sa however ka wla kasabot... ok ra na mam kaysa mag adik2x hehehe
    Dong, sabta nang "some studies", esp kanang word nga "some". Do you know what an "official monograph" is? Kung proven pa unta nga effective even after 48 hours, how come wala gi revise sa manufacturers ang official monograph? And read that line clearly, "some studies of SEASONAL INFLUENZA", dili na studies sa H1N1 A ha, sa seasonal influenza na, kung CONCLUSIVE pa unta nang "some studies" sa SEASONAL INFLUENZA, unta gi REVISE na ang OFFICIAL MONOGRAPH, ug gi-extend na unta from 1-2 days into 4-5 days. Sabotable ba na? Are the drug manufacturers themselves not reliable enough for you? Even in the latest Facts & Comparisons online reference guide (which is revised and updated DAILY), it is clearly STATED there that effectiveness beyond 48 hours has not been PROVEN, and that no OFFICIAL studies have been done on these meds beyond those standard timeframes.

    Let's review this statement ha: SOME studies of SEASONAL INFLUENZA have INDICATED benefit. Keywords: some, seasonal influenza, indicated.

    Now, get the dictionary and i-compare nang duha ka words: PROVEN and INDICATED. Labi na nang indicated oh, do you know how inconclusive that is? As I have said, even WITHOUT these meds, symptoms of the flu resolve within a week or so anyways. Who's to say that's not your immune system being activated and fighting off the infection? Taronga ug sabot ang mga statements oi. Dili nang pataka taka ka nga mura ka'g korek, hatag2x pa ka'g links, nakit-an na hinuon nga DURATION nga gisayop nimo'g sabot.

    Hehe

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    confirmed cases now in Asia--South Korea and Hongkong. gi quarantine ang usa ka hotel sa Hongkong, grabeh ang hotel workers naka full-body suits and masks mura jud og scene sa movies. the infected person in Hongkong dropped by China, so possible nga naa nay infected persons pod sa mainland China.

    Hong Kong isolates hotel after 1st swine flu case

    ang Philippines kaha? Good Lord ayaw lang intawn...let the heat and whatever unknown factor kill the virus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol_Itaire View Post
    Hong Kong isolates hotel after 1st swine flu case

    ang Philippines kaha? Good Lord ayaw lang intawn...let the heat and whatever unknown factor kill the virus.

    Hala na.a na sa asia!!! Wah!! Palayo pud intawon swine flu. Ga lisod ra ba ang Pilipinas. huhu...

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    simbako maabot dire sa Pinas...(knocks 3 times on wood)

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    CHICAGO - Paris Hilton says "I don't eat that" when asked about swine flu in an online video. She's not the only one confused about the outbreak.

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    Others have vowed to stop eating pork. Some, worried about germs spreading in confined spaces, won't fly _ anywhere. Or they think petting zoos and farm visits are off limits.

    Like the swine flu itself, misinformation is spreading like a virus across the Internet, around the watercooler and across the backyard fence. Here are some facts to dispel myths about swine flu.

    Q: Should I avoid pork?

    A: There's no evidence that swine flu spreads through pork. While it's important to cook it properly to protect against other germs, experts say even handling raw pork poses no realistic risk of swine flu.

    Q: What about airplanes _ aren't airline cabins breeding grounds for germs?

    A: Vice President Joe Biden suggested he believes that when he said Thursday he has advised his family not to fly. The federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention advises against going to Mexico, the country hardest hit by swine flu. And public health officials say people with flu symptoms should avoid public transportation. But they aren't telling healthy people to avoid all air travel, and Obama administration representatives later said Biden had misspoken.

    Most modern airliners have air filtering systems that are as efficient at weeding out germs as those used in hospital isolation units. While there have been occasional infectious disease outbreaks associated with airplane travel, they're not common, and generally only people within a few rows of the sick individual have gotten sick.

    "We shouldn't go overboard" on limiting air travel, said Dr. Mark Dworkin, an infectious disease specialist at the University of Illinois at Chicago. But he said it's a good idea to check the CDC's Web site before making travel plans because the agency's advisories may change as the outbreak develops.

    Q: My child's preschool class is planning a visit to a petting zoo _ with piglets. Should we skip it?

    A: Dr. Kenneth Alexander, the University of Chicago's pediatric infectious disease chief, says there's no danger in touching pigs, although a sneezing, sick-looking animal should be avoided. Adults also should be vigilant about making sure kids keep their hands away from their faces after contact with farm animals and they should always wash their hands thoroughly afterward.

    Q: My child is healthy and there are no reports of flu at her school, but I'd feel more comfortable keeping her home for a while.

    A: Right now, public health authorities say there's no reason to restrict healthy children if there's no flu at school. That could change if the outbreak turns into a global pandemic.

    Q: If this outbreak is declared a real worldwide pandemic, tens of millions will get sick and die, just like in the 1918 Spanish flu _ right?

    A: Public health officials say there are a lot of reasons why that's unlikely, at least in the United States. Unlike that crisis, we now have flu-fighting medicines and antibiotics for secondary infections such as pneumonia, which killed many people during the 1918 outbreak.

    Because it appears to be a novel flu strain, everyone exposed to the virus is at risk of getting sick. Authorities are trying to determine how aggressive the new flu is, but even if it turns out to be a particularly dangerous strain, the United States and other developed countries have a strong surveillance network and comprehensive public health measures that didn't exist in 1918, Dworkin noted.

    If the new flu turns out to be similar to regular seasonal flu, as some authorities predict, Dworkin said it might double the number of illnesses and deaths seen in an average flu season. In the United States, that would mean about 70,000 deaths and more than 400,000 hospitalizations.

    In developing nations, without strong public health networks, the situation could be more dire.

    "It could do much more harm than we would see in a country like ours," Dworkin said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dorothea View Post
    Dong, sabta nang "some studies", esp kanang word nga "some". Do you know what an "official monograph" is? Kung proven pa unta nga effective even after 48 hours, how come wala gi revise sa manufacturers ang official monograph? And read that line clearly, "some studies of SEASONAL INFLUENZA", dili na studies sa H1N1 A ha, sa seasonal influenza na, kung CONCLUSIVE pa unta nang "some studies" sa SEASONAL INFLUENZA, unta gi REVISE na ang OFFICIAL MONOGRAPH, ug gi-extend na unta from 1-2 days into 4-5 days. Sabotable ba na? Are the drug manufacturers themselves not reliable enough for you? Even in the latest Facts & Comparisons online reference guide (which is revised and updated DAILY), it is clearly STATED there that effectiveness beyond 48 hours has not been PROVEN, and that no OFFICIAL studies have been done on these meds beyond those standard timeframes.

    Let's review this statement ha: SOME studies of SEASONAL INFLUENZA have INDICATED benefit. Keywords: some, seasonal influenza, indicated.

    Now, get the dictionary and i-compare nang duha ka words: PROVEN and INDICATED. Labi na nang indicated oh, do you know how inconclusive that is? As I have said, even WITHOUT these meds, symptoms of the flu resolve within a week or so anyways. Who's to say that's not your immune system being activated and fighting off the infection? Taronga ug sabot ang mga statements oi. Dili nang pataka taka ka nga mura ka'g korek, hatag2x pa ka'g links, nakit-an na hinuon nga DURATION nga gisayop nimo'g sabot.

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    hahaha it was from CDC website mam.. they made some studies, wla na gi-revised kay it's best when given w/n 48hrs.. limited ra man gud ka ug unsa ra imo nahibaw-an... naa uban nga na infect ug swine ug pila na ka days nya wla mo show ug symptoms..so pasabot dili na lng sila mo take if ma discover after 3 days? Aw, yatap ang labas ana... kay murag naa na man sad guro nangamatay ana?.. i don't need to argue with u miss.. u don't even understand the word "however"

    sorry miss.. if wla ko naminaw sa imo correction.. but thanks anyway peace...

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    Ikaw maoy wala kasabot, asa man lagi nang link ana beh, kay didto ko sa CDC website, wala ko nakakita gyud anang WITHIN 4-5 days. Ayaw tawa2x dinha, hatag na dayon sa link. Hahaha.

    Bisan sa akong statement, wala pud ka kasabot. Pls backread beh, I said "within 1-2 days of the appearance of symptoms", na unsa man intawon ka oi. Unsaon pag diagnose kung wala nag show ug symptoms? Kung ikaw wala ka'y gibati sa imong lawas, why would you seek medical help? The flu is diagnosed through the appearance of the CLASSIC symptoms, gets nimo?

    Aw, palusot nalang nang imoha, klaro man kaayo nga nasakpan ka, taka2x lang ka post, gi misinterpret nimo ang DURATION, hehehe. Hatagi lagi ko sa link sa CDC beh, nga nakabutang tong imong gi ingon nga WITHIN 4-5 days. In the US, most insurance companies WILL NOT pay a claim for TAMIFLU if the date of the claim is made PAST 2 days from the date of diagnosis. That is the standard practice.

    Kung wala ko kasabot ug however, wala ka kasabot sa "some studies of SEASONAL INFLUENZA have INDICATED benefit". Kasabot ka'g INDICATED, dong? Kasabot ka'g "anecdotal evidence"?

    Sa sunod ayaw na taka2x post labi na kung wala pa nimo natan-aw sa dictionary ang meaning sa DURATION. Mao na imong assignment ha, i-differentiate nimo ang START of TREATMENT sa DURATION of TREATMENT.

    Limited bitaw ko'g nahibaw-an, pero ikaw CLUELESS to da max hehehe, kana palang imong statement oh, "naa uban nga na infect ug swine ug pila na ka days nya wla mo show ug symptoms...so pasabot dili na lng sila mo take if ma discover after 3 days? Aw, yatap ang labas ana..."

    Kana nga statement nimo, balik balika na'g basa ha, kay makalipong imong pagka CLUELESS. Do you even know how a flu DIAGNOSIS is made? In the first place, a flu diagnosis is made based on the MANIFESTATION of CLASSIC FLU SYMPTOMS. Once the doctor makes the diagnosis (based on the clinical evaluation of a patient's symptoms, coupled with clinical tests), then he writes a prescription for these meds, which must be taken within 1-2 days. Na gets nimo? Buot pasabot nimo, ang mga doctor mag administer ug anti-viral tests bisan sa healthy individuals nga wala nag show ug symptoms? Aw ako nalang ingnon si Obama ha, nga hatagan tanan tawo ug Tamiflu kay basin diay nag lakaw2x na ta dire sa kalibutan naa na diay ta flu. Hahaha.

    Hoy dodong, kung maigo ka sa virus ana dong, you won't last DAYS without showing symptoms. Sabta sa lagi ang aksyon aning ing-ani nga mga virus para dili ka pataka yawyaw, ok? The internet is your friend, dong. Look up respiratory viruses.

    Pagpa tambag sa imong mga advisers kay lakas man kaha ka sa CDC, wala lang sila kahibaw ga basa2x ka sa ilang articles unya sayop imong interpretation.

    Hehehe

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    ok thanks mam.. kapoy na man pangita gud, murag maglisod sad ka kita ato if you don't have your eyes and mind opened... god bless

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