RELIGION....(part 2)

[tolstoi]

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fallacy!..perhaps a hasty generalization?...an event happened to handful of individuals can't draw a conclusion as to the accursed nature of a certain group/religion..

there were millions of Jews died during WW2, does that mean their religion is the most maledic religion in history?

[Sovabon]

Typical.

Your response just shows that you have not read the response, and then you come up with the above post. It's no use addressing you or acknowledging your question. You never care to read the answer anyway.

Ciao.
Most of the bibles are not having the authors you mentioned. Just use the universal and standard Bible with known Authors. Do not use your RC Bible and other writings with questionable characters and existence. Your Bible seemed to have many insertions with unknown authors. To be fair naman professor!

OT: I guess manny and dacs are the same and one in person. My inquiry was raised to manny not to dacs. For everybody's reference.

[Cardinal Bunal]

Nah, Manny is a musician and Dacs is a professor and teacher in the Engineering department of San Carlos....... but they definitely take turns ;-b ;-b

kung wala silang duha, then there's HoundedbyHeaven whom if I'm not mistaken, is an internet librarian.

[mannyamador]

you can prove that the exclusion of the Deuterocanonicals OBJECTIVELY is a heresy and a sacrilege if you use the equi-distant skip gap.

So far you HAVEN'T been able to justify the exclusion of the deuterocanonicals. Those books, by thr way, were used by the Apostles themselves. The heretical exclusion of these books by Martin Luther was based on the decision by the specifically anti-Christian Jewish council of Javneh (some call it Jamnia). Of course, such a council has NO BINDING AUTHORITY on Christians. So it is truly irrational that protestants accept its ruling.

Nooooo! You are nullifying the Word of God!

No, you are distorting the Word of God with your PERSONAL INTERPRETATIONS. The Bible clearly shows that there must be atonement.

[mannyamador]

Most of the bibles are not having the authors you mentioned.

Wrong. MOST Bibles are Catholic Bibles. The first Bible ever copied by hand was Catholic. The first Bible ever printed (by Gutenberg) was Catholic. It is the bastardized protestant Bilble that has unjustified deletions based on non-authoritative interpretations.

Only one body in all of history ever had the authority to define the canon of scripture: the Catholic Church. And ever since the canon was defined in several Church Councils (e.g. Council of Hippo) the deuterocanonicals were NEVER explicitly excluded as non-canonical. In fact, they were consistently treated as special even in earlier non-definitive listings. It was only when Martin Luther -- who bastardized the Bible in order to justify his heretical teaching of sola fide -- escluded them that the deuterocanonicals were removed from the canon by other christian sects. And Luther's flimsy excuse was that the anti-Christian Jewish rabbinical council of Javneh excluded it -- the same council that pronounced a curse on Christ. Why any Christian should accept Luther's skewed line of reasoning is beyond me.

[mannyamador]

Stephen Ray and Tim Staples coming to the Philippines

The Defensores Fidei Foundation has organized a speaking tour of two notable
American converts to the Catholic faith: Stephen Ray and Tim Staples.
This January, the two Americans will hold a series of talks in Metro
Manila, Cebu, Bacolod and Davao to enjoin Filipino Catholics to celebrate
their faith and learn how to defend it against forces that seek to destroy
it.

Steve Ray, well known author and speaker in the United States, is again
coming for the 4th and maybe the last time. Steve will again share the joy
he found in the Church and promote the video series that he has
co-produced with Ignatius Press entitled, The Footprints of God. To tandem
with Steve is young American convert, Tim Stapples, former Baptist,
Assemblies of God and US Marine Corps. Tim’s appeal covers a wide range
but it is to the youth that his wonderful countenance and enthusiasm has
the most impact. So bring your young adults and teenagers for the events
will satisfy both our mature spirituality as well as the blossoming faith
of our children.

In Alabang, there will be two major events which are themed "Blessed
to be Catholic". One is on Jan. 19 Thursday at the St. James parish at 8pm
hosted in coordination with the St. James faithful, while the second one
is on Jan. 22 Sunday, 2pm at the Filinvest Trade Hall (cinema level) in
cooperation with the Diocese of Paranaque Bishop Jesse Mercado.

There are no entrance fees to both events.

Stephen Ray will be in Cebu on January 17. He will speak live on CCTN, 7:00PM on
the same day.

Attend or lsiten and gain a better understanding and appreciation of the faith
handed down to the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church by our Lord
Jesus Christ Himself. To make the event more lively and interesting, there
will be a mock debate featuring issues that are often raised against the
Catholic faith, that the two American converts will answer.

See more at http://www.defensoresfidei.com

[mannyamador]

3. Works do NOT add to salvation (Titus 3: 5, Eph. 2: 9 ), but instead it is what we are saved to do (Eph. 2: 10, 2 Tim. 3: 17 )

That's NOT what the Bible says. It clearly states in James that faith alone does NOT save. Good works are REQUIRED. Read James. The verses are clear as day about that.

[dacs]

Stephen Ray will be in Cebu on January 17. He will speak live on CCTN, 7:00PM on
the same day.

Great!

I remembered that Stephen Ray (or was it Steve Wood?) gave the Mary's Catholic Apologists a check (in US$) amounting to a couple thousand dollars as financial support for the establishment of a Catholic school on apologetics. The group is still looking for a place to build the school.

[Cardinal Bunal]

Oh hell no! Not Steve! ;-b

Manny,

even Jesus himself used the deuterocanonicals.... but trust me, they're NOT Word per se... they're more like sayings of the wise.

[brownbrawn]

3. Works do NOT add to salvation (Titus 3: 5, Eph. 2: 9 ), but instead it is what we are saved to do (Eph. 2: 10, 2 Tim. 3: 17 )

That's NOT what the Bible says. It clearly states in James that faith alone does NOT save. Good works are REQUIRED. Read James. The verses are clear as day about that.

Yes. The text of the Bile is clear. I just dont undestand why our protestant brothers would still go around this passage. Its too literal. Mag unsa man ka sige kag ingon motoo ka sa Ginoo peo imong binuhatan sukwahi. Di ba useless gyud kaayo?