MERGED: All About RP-US Mutual Defense Treaty/ VFA-MLSA and Related Issues

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Save it? Save it from yourselves. Your imperialistic ambition has caused tremendous suffering & misery all around the world. Your presence in my country for more than 100 yrs. validates the fact of your hold in our economy & politics. In your "Manifest Destiny" dictum -your govt. wasted more than a million Filipino lives. U should study history. Why did your govt. systematically & almost completely eradicated the numerous American Indian tribes & launched your forced indoctrination & assimilation program of its people? Why do U have military bases in 130 countries? U have appointed yourselves as the world's policeman but it is just the devious way of deodorizing your imperialistic greed & lust for power. Ur so called civic humanitarian programs & military presence in these countries is to project a false image of deception & in that guise protect greedy Corporate AmeriKKKa's interest. Specifically, the Zionist agenda. Do some critical thinking, man! There are objective resources all around U. Educate yourself!

... and pigs will fly.

Holding history ... decades old, centuries old history as your ground to stand on to support your seemingly intelligent argument is horrible. For your argument to be true, one would have to assume that the founding fathers have somehow passed on this conspiracy for world domination all the way to the present ... and Obama.

[rodsky]

Philippine nationalism and claims of American imperialist ambition aside, it's become pretty clear that our military cannot deal with the bandits and insurgents by themselves. It's not so much a matter of competence, but our soldiers have their hands tied by the vagaries of local and national politics. A CIA or CIA-trained team working in the black will have no such restrictions (after all, they're not even supposed to be there).

Last year, uber-journalist Bob Woodward (of Watergate Scandal fame) hinted at some super-secret technology being used by US assassination teams in Iraq. He credited the deployment of this technology with helping quell the spiraling insurgency (which has indeed been nearly eradicated). The insurgent leadership, he said, should be 'very very afraid' as they were being picked out one by one with the aid of this new technology.

He never said what it was, but hinted that the details, if revealed, are nothing short of mind-boggling. The resources and level of secrecy surrounding this technology are, by Woodward's assertions, nearly on the scale of the Manhattan Project which produced the atomic bomb in World War II.

Later on, details began to leak of a new optical camouflage technology perfected by the US military. It is essentially a cloak that renders its wearer invisible. Yes, something like Harry Potter's invisibility cloak.

Last year, a video began circulating on the internet. It was taken by Iraqi insurgents who planted an improvised explosive device (IED) that took out an M1 Abrams tank. Somewhere towards the end of the video, a transparent figure runs into the frame and climbs onto another tank. Could this be the new technology Bob Woodward talked about in his new book?

And could this technology have found its way to black teams working in the Philippines? That's not far-fetched.

If I were a conspiracy theorist, I would say Red Cross worker Andreas Notter was rescued by CIA teams using this super-secret optical technology. Notter says the person guarding him while they were walking down the mountainside "tripped" and when he looked, the bandit had disappeared. The bandit walking ahead of him likewise disappeared. His captors could have easily been picked off by one of those assassination teams. But I'd say that only if I were a conspiracy theorist.

Anyway, here's the video:

U.S. Optical Camouflage Technology Exposed in Iraq | DarkGovernment

The transparent figure in question comes running from the right side of the screen about 2:58 into the video. Real thing or fake? You be the judge.

But boy would I love to have one of these for Airsoft!

I mostly thought what Woodward was talking about was more of a socio-political interrogation method, rather than a high tech equipment/tool/weapon. In fact, in the original report, he even mentioned that what was startling about this method is the simplicity of it, and that this is what will shock most people when it gets declassified later.

And if that video is not a fake, I think the "invisibility" portion is just a product of the inability of the video recording device / camera to keep up with the runner as he dashes across the screen. If you look closely while he's lying on top of the tank, he's not wearing any gear. Compare his "leanness" with the grunts on the ground that arrive a few seconds later. An operative/soldier can do an Olympic level dash while running without any gear, and thus I just think it's a camera fault, not some high-technology cloaking device.

But then, that's only my opinion.

Note: You can test my theory by setting a digital video cam to record in low res and low FPS...then run like hell across it from a distance...I bet the same exact effect seen in the video will be duplicated.

-RODION

[CaliforniaKid]

and the Philippine government does not control the MILF. - The Philippine government initiated the organization in Mindanao thru Mr. Misuari, the MNLF during the Marcos regime and the MILF was created because of the factions with the MNLF by Hashim Salamat which he is the 2nd man to Misuari. I think the hidden agenda with the two (Marcos and Misuari) is to make the Mindanao a chaotic place.

There is simply no evidence for this claim. All our information says the MILF broke away from the MNLF because they didn't like the fact that the MNLF was cooperating with Marcos and refused to stage a violent insurgency. Throwing around wild conspiracy theories without any evidence doesn't do anyone any good.

[CaliforniaKid]

Interesting stuff about Woodward and invisibility, guys. I have a hard time believing the invisibility part, though. Rodion's probably right about the video.

[rodsky]

Interesting stuff about Woodward and invisibility, guys. I have a hard time believing the invisibility part, though. Rodion's probably right about the video.

I also forgot to include that "phantoming" regularly occurs in highly compressed video formats (i.e. WMV, DIVX, XVID videos that have been compressed highly for low-bandwidth, so in this case, distribution to Muslim countries with low internet bandwidth, for propaganda purposes, etc.). If you have Sony Vegas, Adobe Premiere, or VirtualDub, try to compress a video using these formats, and at high compression, and chances are, you will also achieve the SAME effect as the phantom runner.

And to the avid fans of y0up0rn.com you will also constantly notice this in videos (of the same format above) that get "cut off" (via editing), there's a lot of pixellation, discoloration, and phantoming that occurs in those videos as well.

-RODION

[Tarmac]

I also forgot to include that "phantoming" regularly occurs in highly compressed video formats (i.e. WMV, DIVX, XVID videos that have been compressed highly for low-bandwidth, so in this case, distribution to Muslim countries with low internet bandwidth, for propaganda purposes, etc.). If you have Sony Vegas, Adobe Premiere, or VirtualDub, try to compress a video using these formats, and at high compression, and chances are, you will also achieve the SAME effect as the phantom runner.

And to the avid fans of y0up0rn.com you will also constantly notice this in videos (of the same format above) that get "cut off" (via editing), there's a lot of pixellation, discoloration, and phantoming that occurs in those videos as well.

-RODION

Personally, I'm skeptical. Although research on this optical camo or invisibility technology is ongoing, even in universities and private labs, I doubt they've come up with anything deployable yet.

My personal take is the technology of which Woodward speaks has more to do with identification and tracking of suspected militants. It could be recognition hardware and software, SIGINT stuff, thermal signatures, etc... I just wonder what would take something of Manhattan Project-like proportions in this regard.

Anyone here seen "Stalking Jihad" on History Channel? The one about the Burnham kidnapping? It painted a good picture of US SIGINT capabilities during the operation, at that time at least. This must be the same group that helped track down and kill Colombian drug lord Pablo Escobar.

[rodsky]

I just wonder what would take something of Manhattan Project-like proportions in this regard.

If you're awed by the fact that this "secret project" took a "Manhattan Project-like proportions", then it's only because of the secrecy involved. Compare the Manhattan Project with the Apollo Program.

Manhattan Project - $2 Billion in 4 years, employing about 150,000 people

Apollo Program - $22.7 Billion in 13 years, employing about 500,000 people.

But yes, if billions were spent, and 150,000 people were involved, it's not entirely a bad idea to start imagining of super high tech "Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter" or Crysis Body Armor stuff, being tested and used currently

-RODION

[jayclint.libres]

Why did your govt. systematically & almost completely eradicated the numerous American Indian tribes & launched your forced indoctrination & assimilation program of its people?

It sounds to me that you think the Americans are super intelligent creatures capable of making a grand scheme to conquer the world but the truth is, we just have our own share of bad guys.

[diatabz]

Oh noes, we don't need no Americanz in our country. We Pinoyz, we be doing a mighty excellent job handling insurgents in the south. As far as I know they haven't taken any hostages and our military seems to be handling the job just fine.

[colossus]

US and the Philippines are just practicing the so-called Balikatan exercises. It does not mean that the Americans are intervening with our military operations. Indeed, in some ways, they are extending their help, but I don't think that it would amount to intervention.

It seems we simply want to let ourselves alone when we cannot do it alone. If we need cooperation, why not maximize those who want to extend help?