MERGED: All About RP-US Mutual Defense Treaty/ VFA-MLSA and Related Issues

[messerchtmitt]

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The Americans trained the Al Queda. It started during the cold war with the USSR in Afghanistan.

It is the American Foreign Policy which makes the evil people and terrorist doing good.

and the Philippine government does not control the MILF. - The Philippine government initiated the organization in Mindanao thru Mr. Misuari, the MNLF during the Marcos regime and the MILF was created because of the factions with the MNLF by Hashim Salamat which he is the 2nd man to Misuari. I think the hidden agenda with the two (Marcos and Misuari) is to make the Mindanao a chaotic place.

Do you really believe this? We do not control al Qaeda, and the Philippine government does not control the MILF. Do you think the national government wanted to create a Bangsamoro homeland? Of course not! No more than the US wants to be losing the war in Afghanistan, or wanted to have the World Trade Center destroyed on American soil. The US does not need to invent terrorist organizations to justify its military power. There are more than enough terrorists and evil people in the world already. I am a citizen of this country and I know how Americans think and how the government works. I promise you, we are not conspiring to conquer the world. If anything, we are conspiring to save it!

Sorry to the other posters, I do not speak Tagalog so I cannot tell what most of you are saying.

Peace!

-Chris

[joshua259]

The Americans trained the Al Queda. It started during the cold war with the USSR in Afghanistan.

It is the American Foreign Policy which makes the evil people and terrorist doing good.

bro mura ni sila og pirates nga pag kahuman og abot sa ilahang objective ni mutiny ni sila sa ilang captain. plus the grudges and mistreatments.

[messerchtmitt]

I joined with them but nothing happens.

this is the people who haven't been to America or haven't tasted American benefits.

tsk... tsk... tsk... if you can't beat them join them.

you'll really see what i mean.

[messerchtmitt]

CORRECT! They mishandled the Al Queda. They want this people to fight against the Russians in the Afghanistan. CIA trained them to fight.

bro mura ni sila og pirates nga pag kahuman og abot sa ilahang objective ni mutiny ni sila sa ilang captain. plus the grudges and mistreatments.

[joshua259]

I joined with them but nothing happens.

bro are you in the Philippines or in the US? if you are in the Philippine you won't feel the benefits but if you are in the US i don't know why you didn't felt the benefits the US government gave.

[messerchtmitt]

What they did is BOOMERANG back to themselves.

[messerchtmitt]

I have been there serving your country for 15 good years..... I applied with the US Navy before when the US still accepting Filipino. I was a torpedo man in one of your highly sophisticated submarines.

bro are you in the Philippines or in the US? if you are in the Philippine you won't feel the benefits but if you are in the US i don't know why you didn't felt the benefits the US government gave.

[catch]

Fine with me... What's so biggie about it, anyway?

It's just ironic that most Filipinos wants to US but objects if Americans come here.

[CaliforniaKid]

Arming and training the mujahedeen in Afghanistan served both our interests and the interests of the native Afghanis. It helped contain Communism, but it also helped them win their freedom and avoid becoming a Soviet colony. In other words, it was an act of compassion as well as of military strategy. The fact that the mujahedeen turned around and used their weapons and training to oppress and smother fellow Muslims was an unintended consequence. This only means is that the US can't see the future, and isn't capable of finding a perfect solution to every problem. It doesn't mean that the US intentionally created the Taliban as part of some conspiracy to conquer the world. Quite frankly, the Taliban made bad choices about how to use the power we gave them. The responsibility for their choices is theirs, not ours. If I give you a hammer to build a house, and you use it to smash your neighbor's head in, that's not my fault. It's yours.

There are a lot of people around the world begging the US for help. They ask why the US doesn't do something to save them when we have the power to do so. But when we do help them, we get accused of doing it out of selfish motives. It's a moral dilemma, and everybody has an opinion about what we should do. All we can do is try our best to balance everybody's concerns, and hope our efforts are good enough.

[Tarmac]

There are rumors that there are also American CIA assassins working with the approval of the Philippine national government to hunt Abu Sayyaf and Jemaah Islamiyah leaders. Both organizations are tied to al Qaeda and the Taliban, the US's major enemies in the War on Terror.

Philippine nationalism and claims of American imperialist ambition aside, it's become pretty clear that our military cannot deal with the bandits and insurgents by themselves. It's not so much a matter of competence, but our soldiers have their hands tied by the vagaries of local and national politics. A CIA or CIA-trained team working in the black will have no such restrictions (after all, they're not even supposed to be there).

Last year, uber-journalist Bob Woodward (of Watergate Scandal fame) hinted at some super-secret technology being used by US assassination teams in Iraq. He credited the deployment of this technology with helping quell the spiraling insurgency (which has indeed been nearly eradicated). He said the US has developed "secret operational capabilities ... to locate, target and kill leaders of al-Qaeda in Iraq, insurgent leaders, renegade militia leaders...If you were an al-Qaida leader … and you knew about what they were able to do, you'd get your ass outta town."

He never said what it was, but hinted that the details, if revealed, are nothing short of mind-boggling. The resources and level of secrecy surrounding this technology are, by Woodward's assertions, nearly on the scale of the Manhattan Project which produced the atomic bomb in World War II.

So what is this technology? Death rays? Teleportation? Time machine? Microscopic autonomous flying insect robots that crawl up an insurgent's ass and explode?

Later on, details began to leak of a new optical camouflage technology perfected by the US military. It is essentially a cloak that renders its wearer invisible. Yes, something like Harry Potter's invisibility cloak.

This claim was given credence by a video that began circulating on the internet. It was taken by Iraqi insurgents who planted an improvised explosive device (IED) that took out an M1 Abrams tank. Somewhere towards the end of the video, a transparent figure runs into the frame and climbs onto another tank, and begins to gesture to arriving troops as if to direct them where to go. Could this be the new technology Bob Woodward talked about?

And could this technology have found its way to black teams working in the Philippines? That's not far-fetched.

If I were a conspiracy theorist, I would say Red Cross worker Andreas Notter was rescued by CIA teams using this super-secret optical technology. All Notter has said about how he got free was the person guarding him while they were walking down the mountainside "tripped" and when he looked, the bandit had disappeared. The bandit walking ahead of him likewise disappeared. His captors could have easily been picked off by one of those assassination teams using this invisibility cloak. But I'd say that only if I were a conspiracy theorist.

Anyway, here's the video:

U.S. Optical Camouflage Technology Exposed in Iraq | DarkGovernment

The transparent figure in question comes running from the right side of the screen about 2:58 into the video. Real, video abberations or fake? You be the judge.

But boy would I love to have one of these for Airsoft!