RELIGION....(part 2)

[KS Stanilavsky]

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YOU CAN CHOOSE



Why would a loving God set before us a life of prosperity and plague, of righteousness and wrong... of life and of damnation?Â* (Deut. 30: 15) His law is perfect (Ps. 19: 7 ) there is no question, on the premise that one believes that the Scriptures are His Word. But why set a way of death when by veering towards it by our own free will, we will be led into that damnation? He wants us to CHOOSE. On our own terms, in light of His commands, his righteousness and his infinite mercy. If I felt the least bit doubtful about my girlfriend, about her loving me the best way is to pit her towards a test, a test where she would stand at the starting point of kind of a crossroad. Either she'll choose me, I mean I'm kind of a good guy, I'm responsible - or the other high testosteroned dude who's a show off of his buff body just because he takes horse's steroids. It would be a risk, but there would be a thrill..... and you know what? I will feel accomplished and CHERISHED if she chose me over that guy whom through my own puppetry, I put before her opposite to me for her to choose between a or b. If I wanted her to choose me on her own terms in light of my love for her and she DOES so, how can I as a boyfriend be happier in the situation? Let me shift to a different topic, if you were convicted of multiple counts of murder and rape, and your best friend turns himself in to channel the blame on himself so that YOU can live, but all he asks in return is for you to change and live it right from now on...... if you were a person of conscience, you'd carry on with his request wouldn't you? Out of conscience and as a tribute, as a dedication towards your friend who turned himself in on your behalf. Someone turned himself in for the offenses of mankind a long time ago. Someone who has removed the wrath of a righteous God for the sake of the evil we have done. Again, base this on the premise that God's law is perfect and the wages of sin is eternal damnation. DEATH. (Rom. 6: 23) but God has a gift. Despite the evil that he permits to exist for awhile as long as earth is living it's final days, there is HOPE... but ultimately he has kept a gift that will never fade. An imperishable inheritance. Despite mishaps and or lowest moments, he doesn't rejoice in tragedyand death, instead he wants all to come to repentance turn to Him and be saved. (Ezk. 18: 31, 32 ) A gift so YOU can choose to live it right and NOT keep track of how many times you may have faltered, so that YOU can choose to press in on his Commandment of LOVE and COMPASSION. Want to know if there is any grain of truth in this kind of theology? Talk to me, I'll be glad to interact with you. I too am an undeserving sinner we can't help but sometimes stumble towards our offenses, because as human as we are in our quest for righteousness imperfection is inevitable, but if I grab hold of THE GIFT, then I have been purchased by a steep price..... when I was worth nothing at all. You can choose to take this gift too. You can choose. The choice is yours. And yours alone.

[mannyamador]

Naa oi, grabe sad. May pagka simang lang usahay... And I was agreeing to what you said of how Peter referred to Rome or being in Rome. Only to use it against the RCC. ;-b

FAILING quite miserably in the attempt. I might add!

I don't believe you. ;-b No, but I hear His voice... NOT yours.

More likely YOUR OWN VOICE. You're imagining things again

[fingolfin]

to those people who always give out complete verses from the bible:
.. do you practice what you preach

[DHated]

mao na diha.. basin kutob ra mo sa storya.. ako pa ninyo buhata ang maayong balita ayaw sige debate kay way nahimuot.

[Empress_Of_Drac]

My head aches reading all the long posts above. Did you post to let the forumers understand your real sides or you just post to boast your scholarly knowledge about the bible? Wthll! Most people won't even bother to read what you are posting...

[seth_kahn]

There is a heated debate between mannymador and cardinal bunal....
i wonder which side each of them is...
or maybe they belong to the same side with differing views on religion...

[h00ters]

to all bible-quoting christians--

So far as I can remember, there is not one word in the Gospels in praise of INTELLIGENCE.
~B. Russell

one wonders...

[dacs]

to all bible-quoting christians--

So far as I can remember, there is not one word in the Gospels in praise of INTELLIGENCE.
~B. Russell

one wonders...

Do you understand intelligence as synonymous with wisdom? Wisdom is of course very much praised in the Old and New Testaments. Do you understand intelligence as having knowledge of many things? Since the New Testament (i.e., the Gospels) is the fulfillment of the Old Testament, let me quote Hosea 4:6 ('My people perish for want of knowledge! Since you have rejected knowledge, I will reject you from my priesthood; Since you have ignored the law of your God, I will also ignore your sons.').

Shalom.

[Cardinal Bunal]

mao na diha.. basin kutob ra mo sa storya.. ako pa ninyo buhata ang maayong balita ayaw sige debate kay way nahimuot.

Debates only breed quarrels... 2 Tim. 2: 23

By the tone of some posters who just came in I can tell neither are Roman Catholic or Nonsectorial Christian. May I ask are you

Agnostic Theist?
Agnostic Atheists?
Puritan Aetheists?

or Candid Agnostics?

Kanang mutubag sa "no comment lang ko sa Ginoo" I think belong to the first and fourth of the categories I specified names for ;-b

You don't have to stereotype people who read Scripture to be all Pharisaic and hypocrites. John Paul II whom many idolize, he constantly referred and quoted from the Bible when he writes and journals, can you honestly say he doesn't have any good deeds? Can you honestly prove that people Manny and Dacs or that other guy named Ichor don't have any deeds of love and compassion? Are you psychic?

[MrBiddle]

Just take a look at the first verses of 1 Corinthians 13, even with expertise in things like debate or knowing the secrets of God, without LOVE that someone is just a clanging symbal and a windbag.... my point being, some of what you agnostic theists in here is true but there's no need to be contentious and biased towards those who constantly refer to the chapters and verses of God's Word.