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    Quote Originally Posted by joshua259 View Post
    mas kusog paman tingali mo lupad ang Cessna ani.
    Question is, which Cessna?

    But I'm sure you're talking about singles, like the 182 or the Centurion. If so...eeeep....wrong.


    OV-10, Maximum speed: 281 mph (452 km/h)

    Cessna C182, Maximum speed: 150 knots (173 mph, 278 km/h)


    Even the twin-engined C404 cannot match the max. speed of the Bronco...
    C404, Maximum speed: 267 mph (430 km/h)

    But the issue here really, has nothing to do with speed.

    The Bronco has a far larger operating radius, bigger max takeoff weight (ergo, more ordnance to carry), and finally, superior airframe robustness.

    Ergo, you just compared a slingshot (saltik) with a .45 caliber pistol.

    Granted, military variants of Cessnas were used in Vietnam, they were called the "Bird Dogs". Anyone watch BAT-21?

    -RODION

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    hahaha sayopa gud diay nako. sory for the misconception wala man gud koi alamag sa mga airplanes. sakay lang ko.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gargoyle View Post
    AIR FORCE OF OTHER ASIAN COUNTRIES WITH THE SAME/LOWER ECONOMIC STATUS THAN THE PHILIPPINES:


    PAKISTAN:
    Pakistani Mirage IIID


    Pakistani F-16A


    Pakistani J-10


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    INDONESIA:
    Indonesian F-16A Block 150CU


    Indonesian SU-27 Flanker


    More Images:
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    Air Force Old Pictures
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    Aircraft Inventory:
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    BANGLADESH:
    Bangladesh MiG29


    Bangladesh F7


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    MYANMAR:
    Myanmar MiG29


    Myanmar Soko Super Galeb G4


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    SRI LANKA:
    Sri Lankan MiG29


    Sri Lankan F21-Kfir


    Sri Lankan F7 Skybolt


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    CAMBODIA:
    Cambodian MiG-21bis & MiG-2UM


    Cambodian L-39C


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    Royal Cambodian Air Force Aircraft


    PHILIPPINES:
    Philippine OV-10 Bronco


    Philippine Bell UH-1 Huey


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    lolz... luoya jud oi...

    palit nalang untag Mil 24 Hind. bsan mga 10 units daog na..


  4. #384
    Quote Originally Posted by joshua259 View Post
    hahaha sayopa gud diay nako. sory for the misconception wala man gud koi alamag sa mga airplanes. sakay lang ko.
    Sakay unya lain pa jud nga rota ang nasakyan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rodsky View Post
    Question is, which Cessna?

    But I'm sure you're talking about singles, like the 182 or the Centurion. If so...eeeep....wrong.


    OV-10, Maximum speed: 281 mph (452 km/h)

    Cessna C182, Maximum speed: 150 knots (173 mph, 278 km/h)


    Even the twin-engined C404 cannot match the max. speed of the Bronco...
    C404, Maximum speed: 267 mph (430 km/h)

    But the issue here really, has nothing to do with speed.

    The Bronco has a far larger operating radius, bigger max takeoff weight (ergo, more ordnance to carry), and finally, superior airframe robustness.

    Ergo, you just compared a slingshot (saltik) with a .45 caliber pistol.

    Granted, military variants of Cessnas were used in Vietnam, they were called the "Bird Dogs". Anyone watch BAT-21?

    -RODION

    In BAT-21 it was the Cessna O-2 Skymaster they used, the military variant of the C-337 Super Skymaster. The O-1 Bird Dogs were the tandem-seat taildraggers that looked a lot like the civilian C-170. Although mostly retired from the Vietnam conflict by the late 60's and early 70's. they were used with a lot of success by Raven forward air controllers in Laos.

    The OV-10 is slow and nowhere near as sexy as F-16s or F-18s, but in counter-insurgency operations speed can actually be a liability. I remember during one of the coup attempts in the 80's, I watched as slow-flying prop-driven rebel T-28s (widely known as 'Tora-Toras') went into breathtaking near-vertical dives and strafed the Malacanang compound with outstanding accuracy. Then pro-government F-5s (max speed Mach 1.3) strafed rebel troops holed out in Camp Aguinaldo (in Quezon City). A lot of the shells ended up in Pasig.

    In Vietnam, some of the most sought-after close air support aircraft were not so much the F-4s and F-105s but the prop-driven A-1 Skyraiders which could loiter over target for a long time and lay down ordnance accurately, even within "danger close" (with friendly troops at risk of getting hit) range. The A-1 shone in the search and rescue role, where downed pilots were often within yards of enemy troops. A-1s could swoop down low and pick out enemy troops with any combination of guns, rockets or bombs.

    For the type of conflict we are fighting in Mindanao, the OV-10 is an excellent platform provided the pilots are not only well trained but also receive good targeting information from the ground. It wouldn't do any good for a hotshot PAF pilot to put shells into ground targets that turn out to be friendly troops or innocent civilians (which has happened).

    I know some friends who've flown the Huey and MG-520 in combat. They're regular guys. When in civvies their calm and low-key demeanor belies the stuff they've been through. You don't ever hear or read of their exploits. You'll need to pry their flying stories out of them (a few beers will do), but the things I've heard have left me picking my jaw up from the floor.

    As if to prove the point that it's not all about speed, in the Philippine Air Force, the most glamorous pilots are those who fly the jet fighters (F-5s and now the S-211s). However, the most bemedalled and combat-hardened pilots are from the strike (OV-10, MG-520) and Huey communities.

  6. #386
    louya philippines oi... tawon ga salig ra ug panghatag...

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    Ipagawas na mga aeroplano ng PAF.. Line up .... \

    Aircraft Origin Type Versions Active Notes

    Aermacchi S-211 Italy ground support and jet training S-211 4[18] 14 in inventory[1]

    North American OV-10 Bronco United States attack aircraft OV-10A/C/A SLEP 12-14 (2006)[19][20]

    Aermacchi SF-260TP/MP/WP Italy attack aircraft (TP) and trainer aircraft (MP/WP) SF-260TP/MP/WP TP: 9[2] all MP / WP variants was traded-in for the TP procurement during 1991-1993[3] ; 18 SF-260F on order[4]

    McDonnell Douglas Defender United States attack helicopter MD-520MG 15

    Sikorsky S-70 Blackhawk United States multirole helicopter S-70A 1[21] presidential aircraft

    Sikorsky S-76 Spirit United States multirole helicopter 3 The PAF originally received 17 units-but only 3 are currently active.

    Lockheed Martin C-130 Hercules United States heavy transport aircraft C-130B/H 1 [22]

    Fokker F27 Friendship Netherlands infantry lift 2[23] Serial Number 10620 & 10669

    GAF Nomad Australia light transport aircraft 2

    Fokker F28 Fellowship Netherlands light transport aircraft 1 presidential aircraft

    Cessna T-41 Mescalero United States training aircraft 14 15 additional aircraft donated by the government of South Korea. These were delivered, disassembled, on December 4, 2008 to the 410th Maintenance Wing. All aircraft were reassembled by February 12, 2009 and were inaugurated on March the 5th. [14]

    Bell UH-1 Iroquois United States transport helicopter UH-1H 55

    Bell 205 United States light transport helicopter 4

    Bell 412 United States transport helicopter 4

    Bell 212 United States utility helicopter 1? presidential aircraft
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  8. #388
    Dili na lang gyud na mangambisyon ana oi..
    dili gani ta maka afford ug maintained sa C130 ug Huey
    F16 pa kaha?

    palaban nalang ta sa US oi..hehehehe.

  9. #389
    dli ba mahadlok ang pilot mo drive atong g lumot na nga aeroplano.. murag pabor nman to sa malfunction.. ahahaha

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    Quote Originally Posted by nyxgorf View Post
    dli ba mahadlok ang pilot mo drive atong g lumot na nga aeroplano.. murag pabor nman to sa malfunction.. ahahaha
    MAo btaw brod nga dili mang gani ta maka maintained ana nga barato ra ug spare parts.
    how much more kung mga bag-o nga perte mahala man.!!

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