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  1. #211

    Default Do You Want U.S. Statehood For the Philippines?


    good thing you are earning good in U.S., are you planning to go back to the Philippines... and try to help those people who are in need. I'm sure your dollars would greatly help.

    I may be earning less here in the Philippines... but still I'm happy coz I've got to mingle more with my parents and my friends. And that's life for me.

  2. #212

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    One more thing to think about.... retirement!!
    How much does the goverment provide for the retirees? the SSS... unless you have a good retirement plan, you won't be getting much from the government so you'll mostl likely end up bunking with your kids. It's not that bad but then that's adding burden to the kids.... it would be great to be living with your kids and not being a liability at the same time.
    Social Security provides decent amount of money for retirees here.. medicare also handles your health needs.. it's nice to know that you won't have much to worry about after you retire.
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    FK... that's cool that you're happy there.. as long as you're happy, that's what counts. My family is here (kids, wife) .. my parents.. brother and sisters.. I do have one brother left in the Philippines. I plan to retire in the Philippines though ....


    Why pamper life's complexities when the leather runs smooth on the passenger seat?

  3. #213

    Default Do You Want U.S. Statehood For the Philippines?

    that's good EZRA... that you are planning to retire here. btw ngano wala man ni apas imo brother dinha?

    mura o.t. na man ta. anyway i would stick to my opinion... that we filipinos should solve our own problem... I help would be appreciated, but having other people solve our problems is not a good idea.

  4. #214

    Default Do You Want U.S. Statehood For the Philippines?

    ISTORYA' na lang ato ani mga bro'... magmata na lang tag morning, AMERIKANO na ta... dili "epol", "apple" (epol, apple, mansanas pareho lang yan, KINAKAIN)... saon nal lang "AMERICAN JUNK" na ta mga bro'. hehehe

  5. #215

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    Quote Originally Posted by EZRA
    I'm talking about raising a family.. having priorities and purpose. I wasn't being personal. You're probably still finding yourself, your purpose, etc... Like I said, you and I have a different mindset. If I was in the Philippines right now and I'm trying to support a family.. my hopes wouldn't be on the Government and its leaders. I'd rather watch paint dry. Of course, I'd still have some wishful thinking but it would be easier to skip the country and work someplace else.
    Married na diay ka? Okay, kasabot na ko. Maybe idealistic lang kaayo ko kay I don't have the same responsibilities you carry. Well, I'm still young and I don't yet have my own family, so things are easier for me. I just hope that my idealism won't escape me as I age and as my responsibilities in life increase.

    Quote Originally Posted by EZRA
    Do you think it's not as inevitable? Wake up, we're talking about Philippine Politics here. Even if I'm exaggerating, the possibility of the country wallowing in the pits is really high. Be optimistic... hey, you can even claim that a change will happen after the next Presidential election.. we can all dream, can't we? LOL
    The chances of things getting worse years from now is indeed high, if present circumstances are any indication. But still, the possibility for change exists, so small though it may be. It is what people with hope in this country are banking on, that small possibility of change. That's the whole point in hoping.

    Quote Originally Posted by EZRA
    So who's running on the next Presidential election and who are you voting for?
    Nangutana jud ka or you're just being sarcastic again? As we all know, dili kaayo encouraging ang mga presidential candidates. But if I have to choose which one of them, it would have to be Roco. Roco is the saner choice.

    Quote Originally Posted by EZRA
    Another question... what's the minimum wage in the Philippines right now? Is it easy finding a job? How overworked are the workers there? Are they under-compensated?
    Minimum wage in the U.S. is over 6 bucks per hour... that's flipping burgers in McDonalds. Not bad for flipping burgers, right? A nurse gets $35/hr.. how much does a nurse earn in the Philippines? How much do they get for overtime? A Computer consultant gets at least 100$/hr .. if you're good, you'd go up as high as $250/hr ... nice ain't it?
    How much is the school tuition right now? For Elementary and High School? Public schools here are free... and it's not even low quality education.
    Quote Originally Posted by EZRA
    One more thing to think about.... retirement!!
    How much does the goverment provide for the retirees? the SSS... unless you have a good retirement plan, you won't be getting much from the government so you'll mostl likely end up bunking with your kids. It's not that bad but then that's adding burden to the kids.... it would be great to be living with your kids and not being a liability at the same time.
    Social Security provides decent amount of money for retirees here.. medicare also handles your health needs.. it's nice to know that you won't have much to worry about after you retire.
    Thank you for illustrating again how great it is there in the US and how miserable it is here in RP. Very encouraging. Seriously, like I said, I don't think things are "as inevitable as a falling rock". There's still a chance that things would improve for the better, though it would of course be in the long term, as long as enough people will devote themselves to making it happen. And I know there's still a lot of people here who are dedicated to that purpose. Things don't look so inevitable as they seem. In the short term, things would look that way. It's only understandable that so many people would want to leave the country and as in fact so many already have, because their immediate concern is their family. Nothing wrong with that. Thankfully, there are so many others who have concerns that go beyond family.

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    JosephC... you know, if only a lot more people share the same sentiments as you... a change would really soon occur. But only if you act on those ideals. Maybe a lot thinks and hopes for a change.. pero not all act on them. Maybe it's because of fear for the people in power, just being lazy, or they have merely accepted and adapted to the situation.
    The reason why I favor US Statehood is because the way I'm living here... I don't earn much, dili ko dato, pero I go day by day nga dili mag problema. As long as me and my wife have a job (and a business), there's nothing to worry about. Ang nindot man gud diri.. you earn what you worked for.. dili ka maka sulti nga overworked ka.. bisag wala kay college degree maka trabaho ka with enough sueldo nga makabuhi ug pamilya. So... as long as kugihan lang mo trabao, there will always food on the table and clothes/shelter for the family. I can even spare a few bucks for the "wants" we have... it would be nice if everyone can experience this kind of life.


    Why pamper life's complexities when the leather runs smooth on the passenger seat?

  7. #217

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    ako sab dinhi EZRA... I go day by day nga dili mag problema... hinoon ulitaw man ko. pero I share the payments in our home. Dayon wala sab ko ka ingon nga overwork ko. Kay i go home at five... panagsa ra kaau mag overtime. And I also have time for myself and my girlfriend. Kong kanos-a gusto ko maka laag pwede.

    If you just believe... it can be done. Ako na prove na nako sa ako papa... sa una dili onta ko niya pa kuhaon og Computer course kay lisud kono panrabaho... I told him that naa ra na sa taw. Nya naka kuha jud ko work nga in line sa ako course.


    Kong mo ingon ka nga pildi na... pildi na jud ka. Look at Manny P. iya gipildi ang usa ka boxer nga maau kaau. Because he believe. And guess what... Many Filipinos doubted that he could win.
    (apil lagi dayon ang boxing...)

  8. #218

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    No and it will not happen. Some people in Guam(a US territory) deny that they are filipino even if they obviously are. Meanwhile Puerto Rico(Another territory) represents 2 da fullest. So being the hybrid society we are (GU/PR= Malay/Spanish) we will be most confused as ever as a society

    I saw the political cartoons made in the US during the turn of the 20th century about us Pilipinos and i could not believe na gayun ang tingin nila sa atin (Think Kipling) and i thought...hell no, The Philippines should not be the United States' Ho.
    Hindi magpapabugaw ang Inang Bayan.

  9. #219

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    Quote Originally Posted by EZRA
    Anyhow.. we're straying from the topic.... my point: Unless there's any drastic makeover happening soon, I'm pro U.S. statehood.
    I live in CA. The United States, with the Idiotic Texan is knee deep on Iraq alongside economic downturn, unemployment, corporate scandals,and Britney Spears' new record.

    Conservatives hate me because of my views. I do not watch Fox News and I never will.

    The Motherland has been through hell and back and again. The good either migrate and renounce citzenship, or get executed in the city park
    or shot at the airport tarmac

    But the Panadero From General Santos bludgeoned a Mexican in the 11th round.

    All of that yet i'm proud of our country and race.

    In 2004, do not vote for GMA, FPJ or ABS-CBN--Because if we elect a worthy leader. we might no longer need $.

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    Quote Originally Posted by josephdc
    here's a nice article about hope that came out in today's inquirer.

    Why I have hope for the Philippines
    By Franco Varona
    PDI, November 15, 2003

    Editor's note: The following essay was a letter written by Franco Varona for his mother, Candy Varona. It is in reaction to a Korean student's essay about the Philippines which has been making the rounds on the Internet.

    I LIVED in the Philippines for a grand total of two-and-a-half years after growing up in Vancouver for a majority of my life. I finished off high school in Manila, then went on to college there for one semester.


    I left Manila in the beginning of 1999 for Syracuse, but something happened to me during my short stint in Manila -- I began referring to it as "home." My brief stay in the Philippines had affected me so deeply that I have subsequently geared the rest of my life toward helping the country out.

    I took up International Relations, with a concentration in Foreign Policy, War and Conflict Resolution -- because I believed that a deep knowledge of all three of those aforementioned subjects can and will help the Philippines eventually. Before living in the Philippines, my motives were selfish and self-serving. I wanted to be a lawyer to make money, or be a journalist so I could, in my own way, shape the world through my words. But living there and getting to know the country intimately helped me develop a love for the country that can only be compared to the love I have for my family. Now, I have every intention of using that degree to its fullest potential in any way I can for the country.

    Even though my birthplace is Canada and I spent my formative years in the US, the Philippines has somehow found its way to my mind and my heart. And I say "my mind" because I see the Philippines as a challenge, not as a sinking ship. And I believe there is a whole generation of young Pinoys that feel the same way as me.

    The Korean essay was right in some ways -- sometimes I meet up with second-generation Filipino-Americans and they simply do not care. They don't identify with the Philippines and perceive it to be a dirty, corrupt society. Although initially annoyed when I speak to these types of people, I eventually realize that it's not their fault -- they have lived in a developed nation all their lives and know no better. I myself used to be like that before moving back.

    But you know what the Korean essay didn't mention? It happens with all second- and third-generation immigrant kids living in developed countries. Although I have met many Fil-Ams who don't wish to go back home, I also have met many Korean-Americans, Japanese-Americans, even Irish-Americans who don't have any connection to home. There is love for the Philippines -- the Korean essay was just looking in the wrong places.

    Do you want to know where national pride is? It's in every Pinoy's face on the streets of Manila, Cebu, Davao, or any other place in the Philippines. Life is hard for Filipinos -- I see that everytime I'm home. But there is a mutual love shared between Pinoys. They enjoy the simplest of the simple things of everyday life -- from the fishball vendor dancing outside a nightclub in the wee hours of the morning to the late night security guard that wakes up just to give you a nod and a smile. Although generally the country has come under hard times, the Pinoy has somehow found a way to survive, and do it with a smile.

    When I go back to the Philippines, I don't see the jaded looks of misery I see in the streets of North America. I see in every Pinoy's face a glint of hope -- that everything can only get better from here on out. National pride is also in today's college student -- today's young working Filipino. I have been lucky enough to have run into a rather large, very motivated group of young Filipinos outside of the Philippines that harbor an immense love for the country. I've seen these people in college, I've hung out with them in different cities and among these young Filipinos, there is one prevailing theme. They have goals, they have passion, and they are driven to succeed.

    Sure, they may spend a few years out of the Philippines after schooling, but they will go back. And when they do, Mom, I promise you a Renaissance. These are the people that will lead our country into better times -- these are the people that will bring back with them the knowledge and the drive to motivate others. These are the people that will bridge the gap between the "masa" and the rich. These are the people that will take that glint of hope in every Pinoy's eye and create a wildfire of productivity and efficiency.

    The Philippines is still, by definition, a young country. There have been mistakes made in the past, but we will learn, won't we? It's just human nature. I don't look at the Philippines as a country that "was" one of the richest in South East Asia and now is one of the poorest -- I look at the Philippines as the country that has the largest upside.

    Just be patient, and watch as the younger generation moves into place. You will see a more educated, less selfish government take the seat of power. You will see plans put into effect that were formulated and perfected which were fueled by years of anger against the poverty we now see. A new Philippines will emerge soon, and soon we won't have to bear the pity of a Korean student. I can promise you that much mom, because I know I'm one of the many that will be working toward that.
    To paraphrase Bulosan, "The Philippines is in the heart".. medyo P.C. but apt

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