MERGED: RAMA-OSMENA Conflict, and related issues

[D40]

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^^^^ Bro, he was given a chance, he became the mayor when tommy was in the U.S. What you don't know is what he did or didn't do other than what you read in the papers. There is a reason why the barangay captains don't like him. What you don't know is the business community don't like him also. Nakuratan gud ang mga businessmen sa uban niya nga desisyon. Isog, pero pataka ug desisyon, walay logic. Maoy delikado. Maski sa city hall, di ganahan sa iya style. Mag set ug meeting, dug-ol kaayo ang mga meeting, murag cebu pacific nga mga flights, pag abot sa katapusan nga flights, puro na delay, kay nagsapaw sapaw na. Unya di pa jud kamao mudelegate. Puro gusto siya mangunay, magbuot. He had 3 terms to know how things work, and the magnitude of the expected work. And it was his chance to show it when he became acting mayor.

Sus, kaysa nagpakita ug abilidad, nagpakita man diay ug walay klaro ang line of thought, decision making, dili organized, etc. Politics will always find an excuse, to justify each political move. Not necessarily mao na ang tinuod, pero mao na ang dali gamiton. So if that's the reason what Tommy will use to remove Rama from the race, that's politics!

[bugzbunny]

give mike the chance to prove himself ... dili na siya kalihok karon kay ang galamay ni tomas grabe kaayo diha sa city hall karon, kay acting ra man na siya ... pero ug ma mayor na gani na, mas molambo ang ciudad kay kabalo mo dialogue si mike ... mas maayo kung lain na sad nga mayor ug dili lang mag sige ug puli puli ang osmena o ang garcia ... wa na jud laing maayo ana nila nga mga pamilya? I hope rama will run and win in the next election ... the cebuanos deserve better than another osmena or garcia ...

naa dyud ka point bro... and i dont like the mayor galingkod for cebu city. i've seen cebu's worse scenario's with him as the kingpin.

and come to think of it.. they should not even fight for positions... i mean, unsa man diay ilang gibuhat run? for them to stay a lot more longer? i thought they represent the people? >>> the people of cebu... but then wala dyud na na feel sa tanan kay gaaway na hinuon...

^^^^ Bro, he was given a chance, he became the mayor when tommy was in the U.S. What you don't know is what he did or didn't do other than what you read in the papers. There is a reason why the barangay captains don't like him. What you don't know is the business community don't like him also. Nakuratan gud ang mga businessmen sa uban niya nga desisyon. Isog, pero pataka ug desisyon, walay logic. Maoy delikado. Maski sa city hall, di ganahan sa iya style. Mag set ug meeting, dug-ol kaayo ang mga meeting, murag cebu pacific nga mga flights, pag abot sa katapusan nga flights, puro na delay, kay nagsapaw sapaw na. Unya di pa jud kamao mudelegate. Puro gusto siya mangunay, magbuot. He had 3 terms to know how things work, and the magnitude of the expected work. And it was his chance to show it when he became acting mayor.

Sus, kaysa nagpakita ug abilidad, nagpakita man diay ug walay klaro ang line of thought, decision making, dili organized, etc. Politics will always find an excuse, to justify each political move. Not necessarily mao na ang tinuod, pero mao na ang dali gamiton. So if that's the reason what Tommy will use to remove Rama from the race, that's politics!

we all know nga daghan ug kabuang ang politics... uyon ug dili for their own benifits...

mas maayo dyud lain na pud ang molingkod. we already made our choices... gabalik-balik na gani pero wala gihapon ayo. meaning.. we need new ones... kung pwede new faces az in new dyud.

[ian_1983]

suya ka bai sa 50-million nga giingon sa imong friend nga apil sa circle of friend sa mga osmena?.
ako suya ko kung tinuod, pero dili ko manaot ug tao nga way saktong basihan

tawagi dayun si bobby nalzaro nya ereport

kuyawa anang " KUNO " oi.


opinion ko lang

Wala ko masuya bai ug wala ko manaut ug tao; ako lang gi post ang tinuod nga storya sa iyahang pag-uli. Ambot ug diin ka kuha si bobby nalzaro anang balita-a pud; pero sa akong part first hand info ni and i dont want to mentioned names; Sugod palang pag abuno anang SRP hibalo nami tanan sa storya....Pero sige lag kay tommy mang gihapon mi!!

Go Tommy Go..!!

[ian_1983]

ayaw pang personal oi, ikaw kuno ma cancer..


welcome mayor tom

wla ko nag personal..just telling the truth.
but sometimes knowing the truth hurts.!!

[Vortex_xxx]

daghan raba kaayo mga kapitan na kontra ni mike rama bisag no valid reason.

ni kontra ra na sila ni rama kay hadlok sila ni tomas...basin apekihon ila barangay kung dili sila mo sugot sa gusto ni tomas...hehe

[k.A.i]

Wala ko masuya bai ug wala ko manaut ug tao; ako lang gi post ang tinuod nga storya sa iyahang pag-uli. Ambot ug diin ka kuha si bobby nalzaro anang balita-a pud; pero sa akong part first hand info ni and i dont want to mentioned names; Sugod palang pag abuno anang SRP hibalo nami tanan sa storya....Pero sige lag kay tommy mang gihapon mi!!

Go Tommy Go..!!

ikaw bahala gud,

basta ang sa akoa lang,

innocent until proven guilty ( or something like that ahhaa)

i mean, first hand info lagi gikan imong info, pero tinuod ba jud kaha na?

how sure are you nga tinuod ang info nga nakuha nimo? kay apil sa osmena circle? kay silingan nag-ingon?.


go tommy go!!!

[W.Axl Rose]

murag karon pa mo mag away ni mga pulitiko tungod gabokingay sa mga dautan binuhatan ug gipangkurakutis nila buot ang makalolooy intawon kitang katawhan paets.

[giddyboy]

^^^^ Bro, he was given a chance, he became the mayor when tommy was in the U.S. What you don't know is what he did or didn't do other than what you read in the papers. There is a reason why the barangay captains don't like him. What you don't know is the business community don't like him also. Nakuratan gud ang mga businessmen sa uban niya nga desisyon. Isog, pero pataka ug desisyon, walay logic. Maoy delikado. Maski sa city hall, di ganahan sa iya style. Mag set ug meeting, dug-ol kaayo ang mga meeting, murag cebu pacific nga mga flights, pag abot sa katapusan nga flights, puro na delay, kay nagsapaw sapaw na. Unya di pa jud kamao mudelegate. Puro gusto siya mangunay, magbuot. He had 3 terms to know how things work, and the magnitude of the expected work. And it was his chance to show it when he became acting mayor.

Sus, kaysa nagpakita ug abilidad, nagpakita man diay ug walay klaro ang line of thought, decision making, dili organized, etc. Politics will always find an excuse, to justify each political move. Not necessarily mao na ang tinuod, pero mao na ang dali gamiton. So if that's the reason what Tommy will use to remove Rama from the race, that's politics!

he was given a chance to act as mayor lage. but that's not the only chance Rama will get. he can always run for mayor come 2010 and prove himself...

yes, there is a reason why brgy captains don't like him. But IMHO, not valid reasons. Sakto tong usa dre nga "herd mentality" toh.

ang nka lisod man gud nga mg acting mayor ka is that there is no continuity of performance and political momentum. sama sa trabaho gud nga ang 2 yrs maoy matawag nga "experience". less than that is not.

we all know naman nga tomas did not give up his being mayor on paper. tanawa pag balik niya from the US, balik VM nasab c Mike.

kng nakuratan ang ubang businessmen sa iyang desisyon, unsa man pud nga klase nga mga businessmen cla? kad2ng mga sidewalk vendors nga gahi pas kusahos ang ilang magmagahi nga mubaligya sa daplin sa dalan? pls cite some decisions of Mike nga pataka para atong maklaro dinhi.

and as for cityhall, unsa man nga style ang dili nila ganahan? kanang dali dali-on cla? well, basin naanad cla nga hinay ug lihok. hehe u know cityhall na...nya kng delayed ang meetings, was it his fault or those who attended late? we all know that even in the corporate world, tight series of meetings is normal.

nya kng mangunay cya sa ubang trabaho, iyaha man sab cguro nang style but it doesn't mean di cya kabalo mo delegate.

IMHO, nagpakita ug abilidad man c Rama. Pero tungod ky dili uyon ang mas powerful niya, like his diplomacy and peace efforts to the Garcias, masulti nato nga politika ra gyud ang motives behind.

IMHO, Rama is now in a dilemma. he knows very well that BOPK is a very strong political machine that could help propel him to mayorship come 2010 w/ ease. he needs BOPK but he also needs to show that he can stand on his principles.

[peewee_toot]

hahaha... mao dyud... kay gusto man cya nga siya ra...

i dont think so brad. gusto lng ni mayor nga naa baruganan ang iyang vm...

[legal_cd]

who knows... basin ma ok rana.... u know politics....