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    Quote Originally Posted by nirdle_phogi View Post
    OT: ^ wow. grabeha information overloaded gud ni si sir rodion..
    (I take back what I said because it is unjustly rude and callous of me)

    -RODION
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    pwede ra man cguro sila maglaunch westward pero mas mahal ang gasto... they can also launch it upwards then change the directions when it would reach space...

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    Quote Originally Posted by pepau View Post
    pwede ra man cguro sila maglaunch westward pero mas mahal ang gasto... they can also launch it upwards then change the directions when it would reach space...
    It's obvious from your statements that you have no background in orbital mechanics. While a westward launch can in fact, reach orbit, there are several problems that would evolve from such an act:

    a) the energies involved would even challenge the greatest booster power attempts made by the Western powers, something Nokor would have difficulty given its dire economic state.

    b) if the launch were to achieve LEO, what can it do at LEO when the orbital speed (combined with the opposing rotation of the earth), would make it very difficult for the satellite to do what it's supposed to do (i.e. telecomm, photography, etc.)? If the launch was intended for GEO, it's more difficult (and thus costly, energy-wise) to "synch" with the rotation of the earth if you launch into a trajectory opposite to that of its direction of rotation.

    c) again, due to the speed and opposing direction, tracking it would be a herculean, if not an impossible task.

    For your second statement, you cannot just launch upwards and "change direction"...the energies involved again would have to surpass the weight limits (due to physical weight of the rocket, playload, and above everything else, the propellant it carries), and that would mean a rocket that would surpass whatever limitations have been placed on this otherwise modest Nokor launch.

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    hmmm and so they are scared by the north.k? why would they not consider banned US ICBM also?

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    Quote Originally Posted by uzumaki View Post
    why would they not consider banned US ICBM also?
    Where were you, if I may ask, during the last 30 years?

    Let me refresh your memory...

    Strategic Arms Limitation Talks - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    START I - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    START II - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    -RODION

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    sign of war na gyud ni

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    eh, shoot the damn thing down. The technology to launch ICBMs and launching satellites is practically identical. What is North Korea going to do if Japan shoots down whatever they are sending? ... that's right ... nothing. Someone please tell me N. Korea's real legitimate use of a satellite.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vern View Post
    eh, shoot the damn thing down. The technology to launch ICBMs and launching satellites is practically identical. What is North Korea going to do if Japan shoots down whatever they are sending? ... that's right ... nothing. Someone please tell me N. Korea's real legitimate use of a satellite.
    Yes, it looks like they're disguising it as a simple "range test" of the Taepodong-2. The scenario is really simple--if their "satellite" fails to reach orbit, they can easily claim 2nd/3rd booster failure, when in fact, they have successfully tested range by measuring distance from launch to impact point.

    Basically, Japan's media statement is more of a "bravado" act in a certain sense---they're basically saying that they have the power to "save" the US (well, Alaska at least, because based on data I gathered from here Taepodong it will have trouble reaching the western coast of US mainland) from an IRBM if they (Japan) can launch intercepting missiles at the Taepodong-2 before it reaches the apex of its ascent parabola.

    -RODION

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    what i've learned before (correct me if I'm wrong); Japan doesn't have it's own army. It was part of the price they have to pay for losing the war. In which case, they live under the mercy of the US that is why US military bases where strategically positioned in JAPAN. as well as south Korea.

    In the case of N.korea, we know for a fact that they are not feeding their people that well for the reason that much of their resources is focused on their defences. In this case, we could be suspecious of their actions (we don't know their real intent). If they could care less of their own, how much more to their neighbors.

    If the scenario is with the philippines, I think we will feel the same way.

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    wa pa d ay namatay si kim jong il?

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