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  1. #181

    what poverty? tanan tao dri naay celfon

  2. #182
    my 2 centavos worth...

    let's develop renewable energy. specifically harnessing wind power for electricity.

    May we ask the administration/government to spearhead this pump priming.

    The objective is to reduce our dependence on fossil fuel, provide work, spin the economy to the provinces and develop wind power technology.

    Heres one way to start: The Local Government will
    Provide the design and raw materials for windmill assembly to all interested Pinoys,
    Buy the finished windmills at a standard price (manufacturers to provide at least 10-year warranty),
    Install the windmills at strategic locations or sell to private firms.
    Sell the power/electricity to the Grid, Utility or Cooperative.

    thanks

  3. #183
    you cannot stop or solve poverty, never. it's sad but true, this is the balance of economy, no rich people if there are no poor people.

    #1 question - who will do the labor construction, like carrying a sack of cement, hammer the nail into the wood, an Architect? no, its the people who are living in poverty, no proper education, and earning a minimum wage, or even below minimum wage.

    #2 - what would happen if everybody is well-off? everybody is all good, everybody is rich? Logic says, there's no such thing as absolute, it means there's no such thing as perfect community, perfect government, perfect person. Good and evil will always co-exist, if Evil is gone, the essence of good will be gone too, and vice versa.
    Last edited by orcgod; 03-09-2009 at 10:27 AM.

  4. #184
    increasing wages has more chances than the govrnance, trnaspency and accuontly you talk about.
    lets be practical. it will a 1,000 years and we will not get what you want G T A.


    Quote Originally Posted by unsay_ngalan_nimo View Post
    we need
    1. good governance
    a. transparency
    b. accountabilty

    2. proper utilization of resources
    a. know our advantage in terms of products, services and compare with other countries

    3. More Filipino businessmen
    a. Good economic policy which prioritize Filipino Businessmen
    b. encourage SMEs

    4. Education

    5. Proper implementation of our laws

    6. Protectionism
    a. strengthen our own products before we enter other markets or open our markets from other countries

    Poverty is relative.... what is our basis of poverty?

  5. #185
    Do you think Filipinos are idiots they dont know their advantage? They know but they can become entreprmnurl bec you need some saving for that..

    60% to 70% filipinos are living below the govt's measure of survival wage... that is their data..

    what do you expect these 70% TO DO> GO INT BIZ>?


    Quote Originally Posted by unsay_ngalan_nimo View Post
    we need

    2. proper utilization of resources
    a. know our advantage in terms of products, services and compare with other countries

  6. #186
    bE REASONABLE. How can there me more bizmen when there are no buyers? no purchasing power of the 70% living below the survival wage? There is limit as to how many bakeries, or jeepneys, or shopping malls you can set up and still remain profitable..

    How many of you started selling clothes, ice candy, cakes in your offices? and what happened? you cant raise ur prices. low prices low profit and then you realize its not worth it.

    Purchasing power is the key.


    Quote Originally Posted by unsay_ngalan_nimo View Post
    we need
    3. More Filipino businessmen
    a. Good economic policy which prioritize Filipino Businessmen
    b. encourage SMEs

    4. Education

  7. #187
    Protectionism? We had 80 years of protectionism (buy filipino) and what happened?
    Filipinos suffered low quality and our biz cannot even compete abroad bec low quality, low produtivity, ..
    thats the problem with protectoinsim.. thats basic econ 101.

    Education, we are overeducated, our teachers are maids in Taiwan, we are the only maids who are teachers and nurses. isnt that over education?

    How can we strentgh our own products when our domestic market have no purchasing power? 70% of the people are lioving below poverty line..

    Lets have a "sense of magnitude" the favorite terms of bintulan



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    Quote Originally Posted by unsay_ngalan_nimo View Post
    we need
    4. Education

    5. Proper implementation of our laws

    6. Protectionism
    a. strengthen our own products before we enter other markets or open our markets from other countries

    Poverty is relative.... what is our basis of poverty?

  8. #188
    I dont agree with you. There is NO LAW In physics science chem and math or even economics that say higher wage is not a solution to poverty. Dont make a statement that has no basis at all.

    The countries with HIgh wages have better conditions for their poor people relatively. They get health care in Canada, free hospital in Hong Kong, and no potholes in roads in Singapore, and lighted streets in Germany.

    Poor are poor, but why do filipinos leave their wives and children to work as laborers in Saudi?



    Quote Originally Posted by yaniring View Post
    higher wages in not a solution to a poverty. I know some people who are working with high wages you could ever imagine and yet their life is still in financial turmoil.

    I agree with the Idea that we must first start with ourselves and that means having educated first. when I say education, I'm not talking about the specialize education we get in schools, colleges, and universities. "education is knowing what you know and what you don't know" --- Confucius said.

    please don't blame other people in your misery. maybe some politician are making the things worse but for me they are only doing a little part of it. we are the creator of out fortune. a lot of pinoys are in poverty for the reason that their action is towards poverty. they always blame other people, the politician, their parents, their leaders, their bosses etc. that is why we came up with two people power revolution and still a 3rd world country.

    most pinoys are poor because they think "poor" or the other way to say is they have a mindset of the poor.

    If you want to end poverty in Philippines. I suggest start educating yourself. eliminate the greed and fear emotion within yourself. these two emotion are the primary reason why some people are not acting(cause by "fear"-- which means doing nothing in their life, they are contented of what they are but deep inside they are just afraid) and overacting(cause by "greed"--- people are overacting..always embrace their "wants" even it will lead to future problem. greed is the reason in the current financial crisis)

  9. #189
    We are not blaming other people for our misery.

    But if the govt and the economic leader are USING THE WRONG economic theory and policy that we have been subjected to for the last 50 years with minimal results.

    And if we continue to follow their wrong theory, in the next five years, we will be the same, and in the next five years, and the next 5 and before we know it, 30 years have passed and we would be poorer than before..


    Acgd to govt data, the number of poor have increased in the last three years..

    We shoudl now try a NEW and REVOLUTIONARY theory..

    *All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
    Arthur Schopenhauer



    Quote Originally Posted by yaniring View Post
    please don't blame other people in your misery. maybe some politician are making the things worse but for me they are only doing a little part of it. we are the creator of out fortune. a lot of pinoys are in poverty for the reason that their action is towards poverty. they always blame other people, the politician, their parents, their leaders, their bosses etc. that is why we came up with two people power revolution and still a 3rd world country.

  10. #190
    We cannot solve poverty but.,..

    we can uplift the people's conditions

    How come HKG And singapore with no natural resources, and evrthng is imported can afford to give high wages to their maids (who incidentally were teachers from Phils)?

    Bec, acdg to the hyperwage book, the govt there says: Pay high or dont hire at all

    Then, what happened? Biz boomed bec people now have purchasing power.

    Poor will always be poor, but in the phils.. maid are actually slaves... (quoting from the book)

    There will still be carpenters, newsstands, hotdog vendors, just like in US and Japan and all Hyperwage countries.

    Hyperwge Theory will not eradicate poverty but it will minimze it.




    Quote Originally Posted by orcgod View Post
    you cannot stop or solve poverty, never. it's sad but true, this is the balance of economy, no rich people if there are no poor people.

    #1 question - who will do the labor construction, like carrying a sack of cement, hammer the nail into the wood, an Architect? no, its the people who are living in poverty, no proper education, and earning a minimum wage, or even below minimum wage.

    #2 - what would happen if everybody is well-off? everybody is all good, everybody is rich? Logic says, there's no such thing as absolute, it means there's no such thing as perfect community, perfect government, perfect person. Good and evil will always co-exist, if Evil is gone, the essence of good will be gone too, and vice versa.

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