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[regnauld]

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I look at religion more of a social utility. Having said that, religion is not at all really that bad. In fact, religion has contributed a large part in shaping a society's definition of order and public morals as well as provided the framework to govern the behavior of its constituencies.

Religion becomes a problem when people begin to compare and impose their morals/belief to others or use it to exploit people which by the way, is the root of it all that has bogged many a great nation since the dawn of civilization. To me Marx was so right that it (religion) is an "opiate of the society."

Religion is so out of control that people would go as far as risking their sanity and very existence in defense of their "god." The irony of it all is that why this good god never bothered to appear in the midst of a bloody war to at least even say "knock it off guys." Is god really worth dying for?

Are you talking about Christianity and Islam in particular? Coz Buddhism, Taoism, Hinduism and others were not really bloody or violent and don't impose so much their beliefs unless you were born in that particular religion which is a great part of their culture.

[munzter666]

what your parent did for your good, thats what matters..

at confirmation (age of accountability) , thats the time you can affirm your baptism or not.

ok im lost you said so. and BTW, you missed your number of the beast. its 616.

what your parents think was good for you....or what society made your parents think it was good for you? either way its your practice, why they made it so...

...baptizing a child unaware of what the hell is happening, isnt really for the good.IMO

*a church propaganda that lead this number tagged as the devil's number...when in fact it was a pagan lucky number.(fundies will tell you soon that them pagans are the devil's own.)

[Hellblazer 2.1]

religion in one way or another is still a necessary luxury. it provides a beacon for the masses. and if it collapses, what good will that do? more chaos. more anarchy. so, up to this time when the people are not yet Ready, then let them settle for religion for now.

[munzter666]

I look at religion more of a social utility. Having said that, religion is not at all really that bad. In fact, religion has contributed a large part in shaping a society's definition of order and public morals as well as provided the framework to govern the behavior of its constituencies.

Religion becomes a problem when people begin to compare and impose their morals/belief to others or use it to exploit people which by the way, is the root of it all that has bogged many a great nation since the dawn of civilization. To me Marx was so right that it (religion) is an "opiate of the society."

Religion is so out of control that people would go as far as risking their sanity and very existence in defense of their "god." The irony of it all is that why this good god never bothered to appear in the midst of a bloody war to at least even say "knock it off guys." Is god really worth dying for?

Maybe atheism is more worth living for after all.

yeps...
some people needs the CRUTCH...
some people feel comfortable with the CRUTCH even if they dont need it...
some people dont need this CRUTCH...
some people are better of without the CRUTCH...

...either way, this world wasnt meant for the CRUTCH users nor the CRUTCH LESS alone.hehe

[necrotic freak]

what your parents think was good for you....or what society made your parents think it was good for you? either way its your practice, why they made it so...

...baptizing a child unaware of what the hell is happening, isnt really for the good.IMO

*a church propaganda that lead this number tagged as the devil's number...when in fact it was a pagan lucky number.(fundies will tell you soon that them pagans are the devil's own.)

i dont think what your parents spoon feed you is not good for you...

you didnt get me. do you? since the child is not aware yet, he/she had a chance to confirm it when becoming an adolescent. had you do your confirmation yet? if not your baptism when you were a baby is void. you are all cleared from religion.

i see.. have you been owned?

[brownprose]

Are you talking about Christianity and Islam in particular? Coz Buddhism, Taoism, Hinduism and others were not really bloody or violent and don't impose so much their beliefs unless you were born in that particular religion which is a great part of their culture.

It isn't really a question of who committed the most crime or the most heinous among them. Violence is just one part of most religions that makes them no less different than covert or secret societies.

There are varied forms of imposition both covert and overt. The former being the most common method employed to force someone to give up his personal freedom and individuality especially when he is surrounded by a society/community that is predominantly religious e.g., an atheist living amongst Buddhists, Catholics and Hindus or whatever.

Sometimes an atheist is forced to pretend that "he belongs" in order to live or work harmoniously with the people around him. If he wants to be vocal about his being an atheist one may suffer the ignominy of being "ungodly" or worse an "enemy of god."

Candidly, this forum in fact is also an example in which atheists here are being made as examples of being depraved and spiritually bankrupt and that's just so sad.

[SioDenz]

Sa mga Atheist, OK ra buhat ug sala mga bro kay wa man gituhuan nga Dios, wa man religion nya wa man religion? pwedi ra buhat immoral?

[Hellblazer 2.1]

It isn't really a question of who committed the most crime or the most heinous among them. Violence is just one part of most religions that makes them no less different than covert or secret societies.

There are varied forms of imposition both covert and overt. The former being the most common method employed to force someone to give up his personal freedom and individuality especially when he is surrounded by a society/community that is predominantly religious e.g., an atheist living amongst Buddhists, Catholics and Hindus or whatever.

Sometimes an atheist is forced to pretend that "he belongs" in order to live or work harmoniously with the people around him. If he wants to be vocal about his being an atheist one may suffer the ignominy of being "ungodly" or worse an "enemy of god."

Candidly, this forum in fact is also an example in which atheists here are being made as examples of being depraved and spiritually bankrupt and that's just so sad.

i won't be speaking for all the theists here, (i mean i'd like to consider myself as pantheist), but i'm sorry if you feel that way. it is true that those religionists are the troublesome lot. but believe me, you don't need religion to be violent.

like raqqim epps said, "faith is not the problem, but the faithful are." he's a muslim, by the way.

[regnauld]

It isn't really a question of who committed the most crime or the most heinous among them. Violence is just one part of most religions that makes them no less different than covert or secret societies.

There are varied forms of imposition both covert and overt. The former being the most common method employed to force someone to give up his personal freedom and individuality especially when he is surrounded by a society/community that is predominantly religious e.g., an atheist living amongst Buddhists, Catholics and Hindus or whatever.

Sometimes an atheist is forced to pretend that "he belongs" in order to live or work harmoniously with the people around him. If he wants to be vocal about his being an atheist one may suffer the ignominy of being "ungodly" or worse an "enemy of god."

Candidly, this forum in fact is also an example in which atheists here are being made as examples of being depraved and spiritually bankrupt and that's just so sad.

In fairness to the religious people, Atheism is being associated with violence too in the case of communism (where millions of religious people were murdered), and satanism which promotes Self-Indulgence without fear of punishment! I think Atheism has a negative connotation and stigma too in our society because of the past!

[Hellblazer 2.1]

In fairness to the religious people, Atheism is being associated with violence too in the case of communism (where millions of religious people were murdered), and satanism which promotes Self-Indulgence without fear of punishment! I think Atheism has a negative connotation and stigma too in our society because of the past!

i think, mr.regnauld, every faction has their share of blood in their hands. actually, it all boils down to the Choice, the Free-will of the person. he may choose to partake in the belief of the masses or not.