Father Suarez Shrine worth 1 Billion pesos

[istoryaaah]

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If I were Fr. Suarez mo pusta ko sa LOTTO basin kaloy-an pa siya sa iyang gipang plano. hahaha.. or is Lotto again an issue for the Catholic Church? hahaha... ga cge lang mog reklamo wa man gani moy nahatag nga tabang... mang hingi pa mos mga tawo... ka inutil... pahuway mo oi.!

[mannyamador]

[B]Exactly! 1 Billion worth of structure will cost as high to maintain.

So now you're an expert in building maintenance? This is PURE BS. You have NOTHING to back up this idiotic claim. Show us the math. Well? Where is it? Is this just more of your HEARSAY? it sure is.

My common sense is HEARSAY?

Most definitely. You have only NONSENSE in that vacuous space where you conjure your irrational rants.

Now for some trivia.

The statue of Christ the Redeemer in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil cost $250,000. It was completed in 1931.

According to the DollarTimes Infation Counter (Inflation Calculator - Value of a Dollar over Time) "$1.00 in 1931 had about the same buying power as $13.28 in 2008. Annual inflation over this period was about 3.42%."

So $250,000 in 1931 could very well be worth $3,320,000 ($3.32 million) today, or P166,000,000 (P166 million), assuming an exchange rate of P50 = US$1.

If you look at the picture of the structure in Rio de Janeiro (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...2005-03-14.jpg), you will see that it consists mainly of the statue, a supporting base, a promenade area and observation deck, and a chapel underneath. This chapel was consecrated in 2006 and I don't know how much additional cost (if any) was incurred to add it.

The project of Fr. Suarez in Montemaria not only has a larger statue, but a much larger church building underneath with multiple facilities and presumably normal supporting facilities such as accessways, baptismal chapels, offices, maintenance rooms, storage, electrical cabinets, etc. If the P400 million figure is correct,perhaps this is what it will be spent on. It looks like it will be far more than just a statue. But we need more data before making a conclusion. This is just speculation for now.

In addition, there are to be other facilities that are not part of the supporting structure of the Marian statue. These include more offices, retreat facilities, an institute for the poor, parking, etc. Presumably the rest of the P1 billion will be spent on this (if the P1 billion figure is correct).

In other words, the Rio de Janeiro structure is not only much smaller but also very different from the one to be built at Montemaria. Rio has a statue and its supporting structure. Montemaria will be an entire complex of facilities.

The question, of course, is whether this will be a good investment. That's a question to which no one has been able to give reliable information and computations. We do have a lot of unfounded accusations and hot air though, not that it counts for anything.

[flanker]

Awa.. lagpas kaayo reply.. lolz... ...

Wikipedia nsad? mao na imong bible? LMAO!!!!

FYI Wikipedia is a human edited dictionary.. anyone can edit it and its not accurate.. hahahahah!

Please come back to your senses...

[istoryaaah]

well, taken by your now more clear argument. Yes we pressume that the project will be conceptualized or even implemented in a not so distant future. But we also both know that the investments and the returns are unclear.

I just proved my opinion as difinite. If only Fr. Suarez would speak out in front of the Filipino people and tell us the truth that would've been much easier don't you think? How hard is it to tell the Filipino people that he is going to propose a project worth 1 Billion pesos using the funds and donations given by the Filipino people? Then discuss the gains and the returns... the fame if there's any... the prestige or even the popularity...

We live up to Church as a transparent group and the Priest as a transparent individual but why hide a proposal from the backs of news reports and interviews? Shout it out for Godsake! Let us know! that is... if they are not hiding something...

I wouldn't count on the returns either. I stand firm that the Church or a representative of the Church should not be engaged in any large investments whatsoever. They gather donations and those donations are not for them! not individually!

[mannyamador]

Wikipedia nsad? mao na imong bible?

The picture referred to in my last post was from WIKIMEDIA.

NO information was quoted from Wikipedia in the last post. None at all.

The inflation conversion figures I used were from DollarTimes.

You really could try reading a post and comprehending what is in it before commenting on it.

[babyvenice101]

Perhaps. You may be right (or you may be wrong). Let the facts speak for themselves.

But if you look at the start of the thread, the one who started it never even bothered to verify the facts. That is why he mistakenly thought it was a billion for the statue alone. This is irresponsible and unfair.

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i apologize manny but i guess you missed my point.. i dont think im wrong, i think my point is very clear. i dont need to blame the started of the thread if he mistakenly thought it was abillion for a statue.. i know what ive seen in the news it was a shrine worth 1 billion.

the reason why i think you missed my point is that because what i was pointing out is the 1 billion shrine in 1 area.. for me it too expensive. thats area

you may share all the facts yoou have for the shrine or insert all the hearsay there is.. my stand is that its too expensive for the catholic church.. too expensive for 1 area only..

lets say for example ( this is an example.. please take note) that in this shrine we have a church, a statue, park for families, an orphanage, a home for the aged. a convent and etc. ( as i understand it, i think this is your point that in that shrine there myt still be a lot of facilities that can help the poor and the people and not just a statue..)

my point is that even if this is the perfect place for a christian.. with all the help the church can give to its people.. FOR ME (opinion) it is still very expensive.. because we are spending 1 billion in just 1 place.. the only people who can take advantage of this shrine. are the local parishoners or local and international tourist. ( when we say tourist .. i dont know with you, but for me its someone who was an extra money to spend).. but my point is that what about those poor catholics in the remote areas of the country. cordillera, poor catholics in sulu, even those in mount apo or our brave catholic brothers and sisters in basilan.. will they get a free round trip ticket to this shrine? but if a portion of that 1 billion will be share to the orphanage in davao, to the home for the aged in cagayan or the home of hte leapers in consolacion.. will you agree with me in saying.. it would make a huge difference to these poor people( catholics or non catholics).

i think if all christians will help, raising 1 billion would not be impossible.. distributing/sharing it to all christian/catholic institutions all over the phil. will make the whole country a shrine by itself..

this is just my opinion, no facts needed, no intentions of spreading rumor or hearsay...

[flanker]

The picture referred to in my last post was from WIKIMEDIA.

NO information was quoted from Wikipedia in the last post. None at all.

The inflation conversion figures I used were from DollarTimes.

You really could try reading a post and comprehending what is in it before commenting on it.

I don't need to read your copy / paste articles... coz it is plain rubbish!.. what i need is your thoughts coming from your not bias common sense (Note: if you have one) about this ambitious project..

Question for Manny: For the love of money? or for God?

I hope you won't duck this simple question this time.. And hey! dont make this simple question complicated ok?... pls..
TOO SCARED? You can either put up or shut up! lolz

[flanker]

i apologize manny but i guess you missed my point.. i dont think im wrong, i think my point is very clear. i dont need to blame the started of the thread if he mistakenly thought it was abillion for a statue.. i know what ive seen in the news it was a shrine worth 1 billion.

the reason why i think you missed my point is that because what i was pointing out is the 1 billion shrine in 1 area.. for me it too expensive. thats area



this is just my opinion, no facts needed, no intentions of spreading rumor or hearsay...

He will always miss your point (intentionally na)... ... Kai sakto man imong point he will divert the topic dayon.. lolz..

If mo back read ka sa thread... from start to end mao ra ang script sa iyang post.. lolz

[mannyamador]

I don't need to read your copy / paste articles... coz it is plain rubbish!

The truth is rubbish? No one wonder you can't think straight. You rely on your own twisted imagination instead of the facts. Must be quite a vacuum uo there.

For the love of money? or for God?

There's your FALSE DILEMMA again. Why are you assuming that Fr. Suarez cannot use money to serve God?

Let me make it simple for you to clarify. Does it have to be either/or? Are you saying that a person cannot engage in business and love God at the same time?

Stop making excuses and clarify the question. If you don't then we will all know what a yellow chicken you are.

[flanker]

The truth is rubbish? No one wonder you can't think straight. You rely on your own twisted imagination instead of the facts. Must be quite a vacuum uo there.



There's your FALSE DILEMMA again. Why are you assuming that Fr. Suarez cannot use money to serve God?

Let me make it simple for you to clarify. Does it have to be either/or? Are you saying that a person cannot engage in business and love God at the same time?

Stop making excuses and clarify the question. If you don't then we will all know what a yellow chicken you are.

See? dli ka tubag... hahaha.... as I've expected....

Clearly the only chicken here is you .. lolz... TOO SCARED!!! putak! putak! putak!