if you guys want really premium kois, like show types and not just pond kois, you can drop by Kois and Ponds or Koi Hob in White Plains, QC. However, the price range is very much different. For example, a 5-inch shiro can be bought for 6K. Tosai Sakai kohakus are priced at 4K. Really nice sankes and showas, those 10 inches long, can be bought for 15 up. Just an FYI.