Did Jesus really ascend into heaven?

[regnauld]

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gamiton ang kaugalingon?
paningkamot para ma bright?
ayaw pagsalig sa maestro?

ani scientific basis sir?

OT: naa sir! tanang tawo dili bogo ug ignorante kung mag-tuon lang!

[regnauld]

this is blasphemy.... you doubt wat is written in the bible.. you doubt that our Lord Jesus Christ ascended into heaven, and you're broadcasting it in this site... you'll have your time soon, and im pretty sure, you'll be humbled when that time comes

Define what is blasphemy sir? Do you think to question and search for the truth is blasphemy? think again!

By the way i am not afraid of your threat because there is nothing to be afraid of. You are the one who should be afraid because you are a bible fanatic and you proclaim that the bible is the only source of truth.

[regnauld]

mao na dha... mas mo-prefer ka sa mga quotes sa ubang taw kesa sa nakasuwat sa bible.... i'd rather believe in the bible kesa sa mga sulti2x sa mga taw nga dli mutuo ug Ginoo.

Do you think all scientists, historians and bible scholars who made this research don't believe in GOD? THINK AGAIN!!!

[carmicael]

I didn't say faith is bad. What I'm saying is that FAITH without SCIENCE is BLIND!

FAITH with SCIENCE is not FAITH anymore. faith absolute belief in something without proof or logic or reason. [/QUOTE]

And you are right we cannot prove the unknown that's where we use FAITH because without it is also LAME!

no, we don't only use faith in the unknown. we use faith in everything. where science fails. where there is a need for it.

[munzter666]

kung sa ako lugar nga kabahin bro.. dili nako igsapayan kung unsay ikasulti sa science mahitungod kang Jesus.. ang mga apostoles bitaw wala man gani nagamit ug science aron mapalig-on ilang pagtoo..

Hebrews 11:1 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.

same can be said for santa, tooth fairy, pink pixies, unicorns, and green men on the moon of saturn, etc.

you'll need lots of faith to BELIEVE in these things.

addendum: believing in them doesn't really make them EXIST nor TRUE.

[Super Bisdak]

same can be said for santa, tooth fairy, pink pixies, unicorns, and green men on the moon of saturn, etc.

you'll need lots of faith to BELIEVE in these things.

addendum: believing in them doesn't really make them EXIST nor TRUE.

tinood gyud na bro.. nagkinahanglan gyud ug pagtoo.. wala na kinahanglana "lots of faith", ang importante nga tibook ang imong pagtoo. bisan ang usa katawo dunay pagtoo nga susama sa liso sa mustasa dako na kini ug kahimoan sa kinabuhi sa tawo.

Matthew 17:20 And Jesus said unto them, Because of your unbelief: for verily I say unto you, If ye have faith as a grain of mustard seed, ye shall say unto this mountain, Remove hence to yonder place; and it shall remove; and nothing shall be impossible unto you.


sa akong kabahin, walay landong sa pagduha-duha ang akong pagtoo kang Jesus! ug ang Iyang mga pulong napamatud-an na kini sa akong kinabuhi. kay kung dili pa Siya TINOOD bisan pa ang Iyang mga pulong. wala untay mahitabo nga kausaban sa akong kinabuhi, bisan sa balati-an dili unta makabaton ug kaayohan kung gamiton ang Iyang balaang ngalan. pipila lang kana sa dili maihap nga mga maayong butang nga Iyang gihimo sa akong kinabuhi. ako lang ikasulti gikinahanglan ang pagpaubos sa kaugalingon kung gusto ka makaila Niya.

James 4:8 ;10 Draw nigh to God, and he will draw nigh to you. Cleanse your hands, ye sinners; and purify your hearts, ye double minded. Humble yourselves in the sight of the Lord, and he shall lift you up.

God bless.

[Super Bisdak]

Do you think all scientists, historians and bible scholars who made this research don't believe in GOD? THINK AGAIN!!!

bro, bisan ang yawa motoo nga dunay Ginoo.. apan wala sila magpailaom sa pagbolut-an sa Dios..

James 2:19 Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.

busa pwede gamiton ni satanas kang imong mga reference bro aron pagpasalaag sa nagtoo kang Jesus.

[munzter666]

tinood gyud na bro.. nagkinahanglan gyud ug pagtoo.. wala na kinahanglana "lots of faith", ang importante nga tibook ang imong pagtoo. bisan ang usa katawo dunay pagtoo nga susama sa liso sa mustasa dako na kini ug kahimoan sa kinabuhi sa tawo.

Matthew 17:20 And Jesus said unto them, Because of your unbelief: for verily I say unto you, If ye have faith as a grain of mustard seed, ye shall say unto this mountain, Remove hence to yonder place; and it shall remove; and nothing shall be impossible unto you.


sa akong kabahin, walay landong sa pagduha-duha ang akong pagtoo kang Jesus! ug ang Iyang mga pulong napamatud-an na kini sa akong kinabuhi. kay kung dili pa Siya TINOOD bisan pa ang Iyang mga pulong. wala untay mahitabo nga kausaban sa akong kinabuhi, bisan sa balati-an dili unta makabaton ug kaayohan kung gamiton ang Iyang balaang ngalan. pipila lang kana sa dili maihap nga mga maayong butang nga Iyang gihimo sa akong kinabuhi. ako lang ikasulti gikinahanglan ang pagpaubos sa kaugalingon kung gusto ka makaila Niya.

James 4:8 ;10 Draw nigh to God, and he will draw nigh to you. Cleanse your hands, ye sinners; and purify your hearts, ye double minded. Humble yourselves in the sight of the Lord, and he shall lift you up.

God bless.

good for you.

for the record there is no FAITH-O-METER. unless you insist on mustard seeds.

sa akong kabahin, walay landong sa pagduha-duha ang akong pagtoo kang Jesus! ug ang Iyang mga pulong napamatud-an na kini sa akong kinabuhi.

unfortunately, that's not a solid proof for such claims. i can rebut that with OTHER/s like you, believing and doing the same things you do...yet, turned up WORST than you.

and dont tell them nor me they are not TRUE or genuine...we are in no position to say so.

[regnauld]

bro, bisan ang yawa motoo nga dunay Ginoo.. apan wala sila magpailaom sa pagbolut-an sa Dios..

James 2:19 Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.

busa pwede gamiton ni satanas kang imong mga reference bro aron pagpasalaag sa nagtoo kang Jesus.

OT: Naghisgot man gyud ka ug satanas, I have a question for you: Does Satan ever tell the truth?

[Super Bisdak]

OT: Naghisgot man gyud ka ug satanas, I have a question for you: Does Satan ever tell the truth?

sa imong pagtoo bro unsa man diay? kinahanglan pa nako i-explain?

kay kung duna nakay gi-andam nga tubag ug imong isumpay sa akong ikatubag dili nalang ko motubay kay maayo untag makabli pud atong discussion sa ubang salabutan nga nagsunod ini.