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    Quote Originally Posted by regnauld View Post
    You have a point. Personally, I believe that Jesus The Christ died and was buried. He did not ascend into heaven physically.
    so, you say. but then again, just to clarify things: this alleged tomb of Jesus is NOT YET ACCEPTED by major scientific communities nor by the religious. but, yes, it is a very entertaining documentary.

    belief is the psychological state in which an individual holds a proposition or premise to be true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GrEenOCIDE View Post
    physical body dili makaya oi, init naman gani dinhi sa yuta samot nkaha if musaka up up and away.
    kato nga body bro mao tong gihisgutan sa:

    1Cor 15:52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

    sa panahon nga mokayab ang tawo, ilisdan ang iyang lawas ug usa ka lawas nga dili madunot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by carmicaeld View Post
    so, you say. but then again, just to clarify things: this alleged tomb of Jesus is NOT YET ACCEPTED by major scientific communities nor by the religious. but, yes, it is a very entertaining documentary.

    belief is the psychological state in which an individual holds a proposition or premise to be true.
    At least my belief is grounded with some compelling evidence unlike those Christians who don't have any solid evidence that Jesus ascended into heaven except by FAITH alone in the bible. And by the way, it doesn't mean that when it is not yet accepted by major scientific community, it is not true anymore. It's like Galileo and Copernicus who were persecuted those times for declaring that the earth revolved around the sun and that the earth was not the center of the universe.. But later it was proven that the CHURCH WAS WRONG! What a shame!
    Last edited by regnauld; 01-19-2009 at 03:28 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Super Bisdak View Post
    kato nga body bro mao tong gihisgutan sa:

    1Cor 15:52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

    sa panahon nga mokayab ang tawo, ilisdan ang iyang lawas ug usa ka lawas nga dili madunot.
    sakto ka jan brad

    mao dili ko mutoo nga physical body ang nisaka

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    Quote Originally Posted by regnauld View Post
    At least my belief is grounded with some compelling evidence unlike those Christians who don't have any solid evidence that Jesus ascended into heaven except by FAITH alone in the bible. And by the way, it doesn't mean that when it is not yet accepted by major scientific community, it is not true anymore. It's like Galileo and Copernicus who were persecuted those times for declaring that the earth revolved around the sun and that the earth was not the center of the universe.. But later it was proven that the CHURCH WAS WRONG! What a shame!
    2Cor 5:7 For we walk by faith, not by sight

    normal na gyud na bro basta magtotoo ang usa ka tawo. walay laing hawiran PAGTOO gyud.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Super Bisdak View Post
    2Cor 5:7 For we walk by faith, not by sight

    normal na gyud na bro basta magtotoo ang usa ka tawo. walay laing hawiran PAGTOO gyud.
    But what is faith without science? it is Blind Faith according to Francis Bacon and Albert Einstein. We have to investigate also not just believe what others tell us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by regnauld View Post
    At least my belief is grounded with some compelling evidence unlike those Christians who don't have any solid evidence that Jesus ascended into heaven except by FAITH alone in the bible.
    compelling evidence? those are merely circumstantial.

    Quote Originally Posted by regnauld View Post
    And by the way, it doesn't mean that when it is not yet accepted by major scientific community, it is not true anymore.
    likewise, it does not also mean that it is true.

    Quote Originally Posted by regnauld View Post
    It's like Galileo and Copernicus who were persecuted those times for declaring that the earth revolve around the sun. But later it was proven that the CHURCH WAS WRONG! What a shame!
    but the fact that some geniuses were laughed at does not imply that all who are laughed at are geniuses. they laughed at Columbus, they laughed at Fulton, they laughed at the Wright brothers (in this context, they also laughed at Galileo and Copernicus). but they also laughed at Bozo the Clown.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Super Bisdak View Post
    2Cor 5:7 For we walk by faith, not by sight

    normal na gyud na bro basta magtotoo ang usa ka tawo. walay laing hawiran PAGTOO gyud.
    +2 korek agen

    walay maka-question sa imong faith ky imo mana

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    Is Bacon and Einstein are christians?

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    Quote Originally Posted by regnauld View Post
    But what is faith without science? it is Blind Faith according to Francis Bacon and Albert Einstein. We have to investigate also not just believe what others tell us.
    kung sa ako lugar nga kabahin bro.. dili nako igsapayan kung unsay ikasulti sa science mahitungod kang Jesus.. ang mga apostoles bitaw wala man gani nagamit ug science aron mapalig-on ilang pagtoo..

    Hebrews 11:1 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.

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