Yes, indirectly, pero gihimo gihapon, di ba?
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unfair na ug ing ana nga style...take for instance the ff situation.Originally Posted by Visual C#
years from now u have a child of your own..
your offspring committed a crime...
would you be liable for that crime and be willing to be put to prison?
pero ot na ta...
for me.. God did not create evil.. neither does man. we just have the capacity to do evil.. and that doesnt mean we created evil. basta mao na na! hehehe
Originally Posted by [DSX]
question: is 'freedom' then worth it? god, in his immense and unlimited capabilities will not be tied to this dilemma. he can create a perfect world and a perfect human society ( utopia ) where there is no suffering and all that. but he did not. is his knowledge then limited? freedom, if taken in this context, is the ability to chose evil over good. yet a perfect society does not need freedom as evil is non-existent.
it will not be. utopia is free from evil, no manipulation, no opression, no boundaries, no evil. god (if he exists ) could have easily done that. but as it appears, he did not.Originally Posted by [DSX]
cors not. then again, i could have not have known for sure that my offspring would commit the crime. but god, in his omniscience, does. and he has all the power to change this as he is omnipotent. he is bound to change it because he is omni-benevolent and would not permit evil to befall.Originally Posted by [DSX]
evil as the absence of god is unapplicable as god is suppose to be omni-present.
yet evil is here despite his omniscience, omnipotence,omni-benevolcence and omni-presence.
it is then either that
he did not forsee it, or that he did but he cannot do anything about it, or that he did and permitted it, negating his being "all good",or that he is not present at all times...
or perhaps, such being does not really exist at all.
my 69 centavos.![]()
“What we call chaos is just patterns we haven't recognized. What we call random is just patterns we cant decipher. What we can't understand we call nonsense. What we can't read we call gibberish.” - Chuck Palahniuk
God just give us free will... coz we wanted it. And the devil's strategy is to let people think God doesn't exist. and slowly the devil is achieving that.
evil does not exist..
but sa ato ra na huna2x..
GOd did not make it..
pero kita ang naghimu ug evil..
kay gi unsa man kuno nimu pagkahibaw nga naay evil kung dili ikaw ang nagbuhat?
dba?!
supos to b and question to b ask is..
HOW DID GOD KNOW DAT WE NEEDED HIM TO PREVENT US FROM DOING EVIL, DAT HE GAVE HIS ONLY SON TO GUIDE US AWAY FROM IT![]()
Basing from your example, yes, the parent is indirectly responsible, since without the parent, there would be no child; no child, no crime.Originally Posted by [DSX]
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and you would suggest that good is only in our minds?Originally Posted by humbzz
the personification of an absolute concept does not really help clear the air. and to just accept these assumptions without further scrutiny and delibiration is just too risky that one might get a wrong conclusion that is farthest from truth.Originally Posted by FK
good and evil as abstract and subjective concepts can be accpetable. but the acceptance of the personifications of either or both is still questionable.
“What we call chaos is just patterns we haven't recognized. What we call random is just patterns we cant decipher. What we can't understand we call nonsense. What we can't read we call gibberish.” - Chuck Palahniuk
gareb: sounds like you are a fundamentalist atheist..teheheehe..peace! :mrgreen:
OT: if i am a fundamentalist anything id kill myself. tehehehehe! toodles!![]()
“What we call chaos is just patterns we haven't recognized. What we call random is just patterns we cant decipher. What we can't understand we call nonsense. What we can't read we call gibberish.” - Chuck Palahniuk
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