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    Quote Originally Posted by regnauld View Post
    your example is good! However, I would first try to investigate if it is true whether my mother really killed someone and find out why she did that in the first place.
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    my thought exactly.

    but as i have observed they way you post, everytime someone disagrees with your facts, you remind them to be an open minded as if you talk to someone like everyone disagrees with you are close minded person.

    peace

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gray_Fox View Post
    my thought exactly.

    but as i have observed they way you post, everytime someone disagrees with your facts, you remind them to be an open minded as if you talk to someone like everyone disagrees with you are close minded person.

    peace
    Ok! let us agree to disagree! T

    that's why we should keep on searching. Just take your time. Sorry if you are offended. Nothing personal. I'm just challenging your beliefs. Remember that FAITH without SCIENCE is blind. Ok I would not say you are a close minded person because I believe you will seek the truth as Jesus said, SEEK AND YOU SHALL FIND (THE TRUTH).
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    bible alone is the one and only truth,..depende na lang sa paggamit,...

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    Quote Originally Posted by kenshinsasuke View Post
    bible alone is the one and only truth,..depende na lang sa paggamit,...
    Are you saying that outside the bible there is no truth to be found especially in other sacred books from other religions?

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    Quote Originally Posted by regnauld View Post
    Are you saying that outside the bible there is no truth to be found especially in other sacred books from other religions?
    unsa man nga truth ang imong buot ipasabot bro? daghan mang klaseng truth bro...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Tobi View Post
    unsa man nga truth ang imong buot ipasabot bro? daghan mang klaseng truth bro...

    yup... daghan jud truth... so daghan pud basehan...

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    Quote Originally Posted by r3roble View Post
    yup... daghan jud truth... so daghan pud basehan...
    daghang truth bro. naay truth sa mathematics, science, engineering, medicine etc etc...depende lang sa fields

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tobi View Post
    unsa man nga truth ang imong buot ipasabot bro? daghan mang klaseng truth bro...

    “There is no Religion Higher than -- Truth.’…
    “Therefore, that a portion of truth, great or small, is found in every religious and philosophical system … Our object is not to destroy any religion but rather to help to filter each, thus ridding them of their respective impurities.…
    “Free discussion, temperate, candid, undefiled by personalities and animosity, is, we think, the most efficacious means of getting rid of error and bringing out the underlying truth … The object of the latter is to elicit truth, not to advance the interest of any particular ism …”25
    “[i]s there such a thing as absolute truth in the hands of any one party or man? Reason answers, ‘there cannot be.’ There is no room for absolute truth upon any subject whatsoever, in a world as finite and conditioned as man is himself. But there are relative truths, and we have to make the best we can of them.… for every one of us has to find that (to him) final knowledge in himself.”
    This “Ageless” doctrine of devils that “There is no Religion higher than Truth” is becoming the new foundation of faith for many. What is the source of your faith, and what is your definition of truth?
    “[i]n the new generation lies hope … hope because of the promptness with which they recognize truth wherever it is to be found ….
    "...God works in many ways, through many faiths and religious agencies; in their union will the fullness of truth be revealed.”27
    “[T]he truth is a many-sided diamond …”28
    “All the various truths form one Truth; … your little bit of truth forms part of the group mosaic.”29
    —the seducing spirit calling itself Djwhal Khul, a “Master of Wisdom” that channeled its teachings through Alice Bailey
    “A New Spirituality truly is emerging upon the earth, and the idea of Oneness is at its core.”30
    “Of course, no one seriously suggests that the Bible is to be taken literally.”31
    “Humans will understand that God’s words are found in all of the world’s Holy Scriptures, and that no scripture is more authoritative, more complete, more accurate, or more authentic than any other, but that … each leads to a greater understanding of The Only Truth There Is …”32
    “When we believe in our heart that We Are All One, everything will change. Everything.”33
    Indeed, everything is changing as today’s Christianity switches from the Christian faith to relativism. One relativistic belief leads to another, and the belief that no one has to change their religion in order to be followers of Christ and God naturally leads to the belief that all the gods of the people and nations are just different conceptions, interpretations, experiences, and names of “the same God.”
    Leaders of today’s Christianity are leading their unquestioning followers right into the Emerging One Church (new world religion/New Spirituality) of the new world—the New Age counterfeit kingdom of its counterfeit “God,” counterfeit “Christ,” and counterfeit “truth.” Yet in their double-speak, they are simultaneously claiming that these teachings do not compromise the faith, relativize Jesus Christ, or deny that He is the way, the truth, and the life! Apparently, double-mindedness precludes the understanding of either “compromise,” “relativize,” or John 14:6.
    Wolves have been given free reign in the sheepfold, and they are on a devouring rampage “in sheep’s clothing,” just as the Lord Jesus Christ and the apostle Paul warned (Matthew 7:15-16; Acts 20:29-30). The wolves in Christianity today are casting aside the knowledge of God’s Word of truth and telling their followers to do the same. The resultant scriptural illiteracy in today’s Christianity has inevitably given rise to its pandemic of “deceiving, and being deceived.” The wolves taking over Christianity today are as the lawyers who were warned by the Lord Jesus Christ:
    “Woe unto you, lawyers! for ye have taken away the key of knowledge: ye entered not in yourselves, and them that were entering in ye hindered.” (Luke 11:52)
    God’s Word is the truth and the key to His Kingdom. Other keys such as works, world service, experiences, interfaith unity, relativism, right human relations, etcetera, might work in the Emerging One Church—the counterfeit kingdom of God—but they do not work in the true Kingdom of God.
    If you reject the true saving faith that comes by the absolute truth of God’s Word, then you are rejecting the only key that gives entrance into God’s Kingdom.
    “Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.… Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.… He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.” (John 3:3, 7, 36)
    “But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach … So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.” (Romans 10:8, 17)
    Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth.” (John 17:17)
    “Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever. For all flesh is as grass, and all the glory of man as the flower of grass. The grass withereth, and the flower thereof falleth away: But the word of the Lord endureth for ever. And this is the word which by the gospel is preached unto you.” (1 Peter 1:23-25)
    “For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.” (Romans 1:16)
    Even if knowing and believing it is regarded as “hatred,” “religious oppression,” and a “hindrance” to the interfaith unity of the Emerging One Church, God’s Word is still the truth and the only key to God’s true Kingdom. And God’s Word gives us the Christian faith. The Christian faith of true Christianity has not “hijacked” anything of God. God Himself is the One Who chose to deliver His absolute truth specifically unto His people in “the faith which was once delivered unto the saints” (i.e., “they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus” – Revelation 14:12; Jude 1:3).
    This Christian faith is the only faith comprised of the doctrine of Christ, and it is the doctrine of Christ that gives us the Person of Christ. Yet this Christian faith/doctrine is seen as a “box” from which Christ needs to be freed! To say this is utter nonsense is a tremendous understatement! Christ needs to be freed from the truth of Who He is?!
    To throw out the knowledge and belief of God’s Word of truth is spiritual suicide. If you rid your life of the doctrine of Christ, you are ridding your life of the Person of Christ and God Himself.
    “Then said they unto him, What shall we do, that we might work the works of God? Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.” (John 6:28-29)
    “Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.” (2 John 1:9)
    God said it. Those who still prefer to believe that it is “idolatry,” “religious bigotry,” “tribalism,” or “pride” to believe and abide in the doctrine of Christ can take it up with God. No doubt the day is soon coming when God will be sure to take it up with them.
    It all comes down to whether people believe that God’s Word truly is the Word of God. Those who do not—regardless of whether or not they admit it—will question, doubt, reimagine, and rethink God’s Word. “Yea, hath God said?” The serpent’s question is now often repeated by unbelieving “Christians.” Their belief that God’s Word is debatable and not knowable with certainty frees them to believe and do what is right in their own eyes, along with the world. They are experiencing the New Spirituality’s transformation. As is their purpose, they are becoming “experiencers” rather than believers. And as the Holy Spirit warned would happen, they are departing from the faith.
    The world is not the innocent “victim” of the “tribal” faith and “outdated” methods of scriptural Christianity, as today’s deceived teachers would have us believe. Humanity has always preferred believing and doing what is right in its own eyes rather than what is right in God’s eyes, and it is very persistent in its determination to get away with it. This persistence is now becoming very evident within today’s inclusive new counterfeit “Christianity” as well.
    “And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.” (John 3:19-20)

    http://www.lecturelist.org/content/view_lecture/2730
    Last edited by regnauld; 01-05-2009 at 07:00 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by regnauld View Post
    “There is no Religion Higher than -- Truth.’…
    “Therefore, that a portion of truth, great or small, is found in every religious and philosophical system … Our object is not to destroy any religion but rather to help to filter each, thus ridding them of their respective impurities.…
    “Free discussion, temperate, candid, undefiled by personalities and animosity, is, we think, the most efficacious means of getting rid of error and bringing out the underlying truth … The object of the latter is to elicit truth, not to advance the interest of any particular ism …”25
    “[I]s there such a thing as absolute truth in the hands of any one party or man? Reason answers, ‘there cannot be.’ There is no room for absolute truth upon any subject whatsoever, in a world as finite and conditioned as man is himself. But there are relative truths, and we have to make the best we can of them.… for every one of us has to find that (to him) final knowledge in himself.”
    This “Ageless” doctrine of devils that “There is no Religion higher than Truth” is becoming the new foundation of faith for many. What is the source of your faith, and what is your definition of truth?
    “[I]n the new generation lies hope … hope because of the promptness with which they recognize truth wherever it is to be found ….
    "...God works in many ways, through many faiths and religious agencies; in their union will the fullness of truth be revealed.”27
    “[T]he truth is a many-sided diamond …”28
    “All the various truths form one Truth; … your little bit of truth forms part of the group mosaic.”29
    —the seducing spirit calling itself Djwhal Khul, a “Master of Wisdom” that channeled its teachings through Alice Bailey
    “A New Spirituality truly is emerging upon the earth, and the idea of Oneness is at its core.”30
    “Of course, no one seriously suggests that the Bible is to be taken literally.”31
    “Humans will understand that God’s words are found in all of the world’s Holy Scriptures, and that no scripture is more authoritative, more complete, more accurate, or more authentic than any other, but that … each leads to a greater understanding of The Only Truth There Is …”32
    “When we believe in our heart that We Are All One, everything will change. Everything.”33
    Indeed, everything is changing as today’s Christianity switches from the Christian faith to relativism. One relativistic belief leads to another, and the belief that no one has to change their religion in order to be followers of Christ and God naturally leads to the belief that all the gods of the people and nations are just different conceptions, interpretations, experiences, and names of “the same God.”
    Leaders of today’s Christianity are leading their unquestioning followers right into the Emerging One Church (new world religion/New Spirituality) of the new world—the New Age counterfeit kingdom of its counterfeit “God,” counterfeit “Christ,” and counterfeit “truth.” Yet in their double-speak, they are simultaneously claiming that these teachings do not compromise the faith, relativize Jesus Christ, or deny that He is the way, the truth, and the life! Apparently, double-mindedness precludes the understanding of either “compromise,” “relativize,” or John 14:6.
    Wolves have been given free reign in the sheepfold, and they are on a devouring rampage “in sheep’s clothing,” just as the Lord Jesus Christ and the apostle Paul warned (Matthew 7:15-16; Acts 20:29-30). The wolves in Christianity today are casting aside the knowledge of God’s Word of truth and telling their followers to do the same. The resultant scriptural illiteracy in today’s Christianity has inevitably given rise to its pandemic of “deceiving, and being deceived.” The wolves taking over Christianity today are as the lawyers who were warned by the Lord Jesus Christ:
    “Woe unto you, lawyers! for ye have taken away the key of knowledge: ye entered not in yourselves, and them that were entering in ye hindered.” (Luke 11:52)
    God’s Word is the truth and the key to His Kingdom. Other keys such as works, world service, experiences, interfaith unity, relativism, right human relations, etcetera, might work in the Emerging One Church—the counterfeit kingdom of God—but they do not work in the true Kingdom of God.
    If you reject the true saving faith that comes by the absolute truth of God’s Word, then you are rejecting the only key that gives entrance into God’s Kingdom.
    “Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.… Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.… He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.” (John 3:3, 7, 36)
    “But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach … So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.” (Romans 10:8, 17)
    Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth.” (John 17:17)
    “Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever. For all flesh is as grass, and all the glory of man as the flower of grass. The grass withereth, and the flower thereof falleth away: But the word of the Lord endureth for ever. And this is the word which by the gospel is preached unto you.” (1 Peter 1:23-25)
    “For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.” (Romans 1:16)
    Even if knowing and believing it is regarded as “hatred,” “religious oppression,” and a “hindrance” to the interfaith unity of the Emerging One Church, God’s Word is still the truth and the only key to God’s true Kingdom. And God’s Word gives us the Christian faith. The Christian faith of true Christianity has not “hijacked” anything of God. God Himself is the One Who chose to deliver His absolute truth specifically unto His people in “the faith which was once delivered unto the saints” (i.e., “they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus” – Revelation 14:12; Jude 1:3).
    This Christian faith is the only faith comprised of the doctrine of Christ, and it is the doctrine of Christ that gives us the Person of Christ. Yet this Christian faith/doctrine is seen as a “box” from which Christ needs to be freed! To say this is utter nonsense is a tremendous understatement! Christ needs to be freed from the truth of Who He is?!
    To throw out the knowledge and belief of God’s Word of truth is spiritual suicide. If you rid your life of the doctrine of Christ, you are ridding your life of the Person of Christ and God Himself.
    “Then said they unto him, What shall we do, that we might work the works of God? Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.” (John 6:28-29)
    “Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.” (2 John 1:9)
    God said it. Those who still prefer to believe that it is “idolatry,” “religious bigotry,” “tribalism,” or “pride” to believe and abide in the doctrine of Christ can take it up with God. No doubt the day is soon coming when God will be sure to take it up with them.
    It all comes down to whether people believe that God’s Word truly is the Word of God. Those who do not—regardless of whether or not they admit it—will question, doubt, reimagine, and rethink God’s Word. “Yea, hath God said?” The serpent’s question is now often repeated by unbelieving “Christians.” Their belief that God’s Word is debatable and not knowable with certainty frees them to believe and do what is right in their own eyes, along with the world. They are experiencing the New Spirituality’s transformation. As is their purpose, they are becoming “experiencers” rather than believers. And as the Holy Spirit warned would happen, they are departing from the faith.
    The world is not the innocent “victim” of the “tribal” faith and “outdated” methods of scriptural Christianity, as today’s deceived teachers would have us believe. Humanity has always preferred believing and doing what is right in its own eyes rather than what is right in God’s eyes, and it is very persistent in its determination to get away with it. This persistence is now becoming very evident within today’s inclusive new counterfeit “Christianity” as well.
    “And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.” (John 3:19-20)
    “Thus saith the LORD, Stand ye in the ways, and see, and ask for the old paths, where is the 11 good way, and walk therein, and ye shall find rest for your souls. But they said, We will not walk therein.” (Jeremiah 6:16)
    unya?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Tobi View Post
    unya?

    Can there be only one true religion? Can that religion alone possesses the truth? And IS THERE A RELIGION HIGHER THAN TRUTH? Answer these questions objectively kuno. Let's see if you are not biased!

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