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    Quote Originally Posted by kenjoenue View Post
    evil is not created by God it is only the will of lucifer to be evil....
    Then why did God create Lucifer?

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    Quote Originally Posted by timo View Post
    Then why did God create Lucifer?
    Lucifer's the fallen angel remember? He chose his destiny.

    @ TS: Kudos! I am fascinated with your insight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Forgotten-Isle View Post
    Lucifer's the fallen angel remember? He chose his destiny.

    @ TS: Kudos! I am fascinated with your insight.
    He "chose" this? Wait-- wasn't God omniscient? Couldn't he see this coming? So why did he create Lucifer if he knew it was coming all along?

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    Quote Originally Posted by timo View Post
    He "chose" this? Wait-- wasn't God omniscient? Couldn't he see this coming? So why did he create Lucifer if he knew it was coming all along?
    He could have see it coming but i think He just want to find out if Lucifer will actually do that, God is testing their conviction and loyalty cguro...

    OT: i dont think God has to do with evil or something...

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    God has nothing to do with evil oi...

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    Quote Originally Posted by bahiista View Post
    God has nothing to do with evil oi...
    Bro as I have cited the bible I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things. (Isaiah 45:7, KJV) but it doesn't mean GOD is the author of man's EVIL ACTIONS. EVIL has a purpose in God's creation. As St. Augustine, the great doctor of the church said, SIN (evil deeds) can be transformed into GOOD! Does that make sense to you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by excon View Post
    He could have see it coming but i think He just want to find out if Lucifer will actually do that, God is testing their conviction and loyalty cguro...

    OT: i dont think God has to do with evil or something...
    Umm, I'm seeing you're having some trouble understanding omniscience. Diba ang ginoo kahibaw man jud unsay ma hitabo? Ngano mag test paman ang ginoo kong kahibaw najud siya na i-betray siya? Bisan unsa pay lusot-lusot dra, kahibaw man jud ang ginoo na mo ani si Lucifer, so ngano iya man jud ni gi himo ni siya?

    I think the entire case of the problem of evil was very well-summed up by Epiricus a long time ago--


    "Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent.
    Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent.
    Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil?
    Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God? "




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    kung gikan sa Ginoo ang evil, sa ato pa dili diay nato mabasol ang tawo nga dautan kay ang Ginoo man diay ang naghimo ana. kung naay 1 yr old nga bata nga gi rape gikan diay na sa Ginoo noh?

    responsible diay ang Ginoo kung daghang tawo nga dautan kay siya man diay ang nag create ana.

    think TS...

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    naay evil kay boring kaayo kung good ra tanan.

    bati kaayo kung one sided ra. hehe

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    Quote Originally Posted by grovestreet View Post
    naay evil kay boring kaayo kung good ra tanan.

    bati kaayo kung one sided ra. hehe
    Good answer bro! otherwise dili na ni kalibutan kun dili heaven na!

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