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    Quote Originally Posted by baliguat View Post
    Bitaw bro sakto ka diha!

    Bisag ang Simbahan(RC) nag basol sa nahitabo kang joan of arc , dili sa ingon nga maka bawi ha but joan is a Saint............ Kinsay naka kita ninyu sa Brother sun and Sister moon nga istorya sa kinabuhi ni St. Francis ug Saint Clair? Gikuntrahan man gani sa mga Pari ug Obispo si Saint Francis... Naa pay lain-- Si Saint Benedict gikuntrahan gihapon sa usa ka pari gi kontrahan pas Hari.. Nya unsa man na? usahay man gud human makutaw ang lubog nga tubig mu tum-aw jud ang katin-aw kay mi lugdang na man..

    Mao pud ni sa akong duha ka sentimo!
    So sa una pa diay nah Sila cge Buhat ug sayop? so pwedi sad diay to matinuod tong gisulat batok sa Vatican?

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    THE TRUTH IS, DR. ALBERTO RIVERA WAS NOT REALLY A JESUIT!!!

    Cornerstone Magazine's account
    According to the Cornerstone article:[1] Rivera had a 'history of legal entanglements' including fraud, credit card theft, and writing bad checks. Warrants had been issued for his arrest in New Jersey and Florida, and he was wanted by the Spanish police for 'swindles and cheats'; while in the USA in 1967, he claimed to be collecting money for a Spanish college, who never received this money. The details of his claims changed: In 1964 he said he had left the Catholic Church in July 1952, but he later put the date at March 20, 1967; despite this, he was still promoting Catholicism in a newspaper interview of August that same year. Although supposedly placed in the sanitorium in 1965 and held there for three months, he gave the date of his release as September 1967, leaving a period of over a year unaccounted for.
    The document exhibited by Rivera to prove his status as a Catholic priest was fraudulently obtained and the Catholic Church denies his claims of having been a Jesuit priest or a bishop. He had only one sister in London; she was not called Maria, was not a nun, and did not live in a convent. In an employment form dated 1963 he claimed marriage to Carmen Lydia Torres, and the couple had two children in the USA when his own account had him a celibate priest in Spain.
    Cornerstone also questioned Rivera's claim to various degrees, including three doctorates (Th.D., D.D., and Ph.D.), reporting that his known chronology did not allow enough time for him to have completed these degrees and that he had admitted to receiving them from a Colorado diploma mill.
    Source: WIKEPEDIA

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    Default Dr. Rivera was not a jesuit!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Super Bisdak View Post
    I have read most of his testimonies published by Chick Publications. Halos dili ko makatoo sa iyang kuyaw nga experience as a Jesuit Priest, pero dunay pang-alkontra ang Vatican sa iyang mga statements. No offense to the Catholics, but personally I believe his statements are true. Nice find bro. God bless!
    Cornerstone Magazine's account
    According to the Cornerstone article:[1] Rivera had a 'history of legal entanglements' including fraud, credit card theft, and writing bad checks. Warrants had been issued for his arrest in New Jersey and Florida, and he was wanted by the Spanish police for 'swindles and cheats'; while in the USA in 1967, he claimed to be collecting money for a Spanish college, who never received this money. The details of his claims changed: In 1964 he said he had left the Catholic Church in July 1952, but he later put the date at March 20, 1967; despite this, he was still promoting Catholicism in a newspaper interview of August that same year. Although supposedly placed in the sanitorium in 1965 and held there for three months, he gave the date of his release as September 1967, leaving a period of over a year unaccounted for.
    The document exhibited by Rivera to prove his status as a Catholic priest was fraudulently obtained and the Catholic Church denies his claims of having been a Jesuit priest or a bishop. He had only one sister in London; she was not called Maria, was not a nun, and did not live in a convent. In an employment form dated 1963 he claimed marriage to Carmen Lydia Torres, and the couple had two children in the USA when his own account had him a celibate priest in Spain.
    Cornerstone also questioned Rivera's claim to various degrees, including three doctorates (Th.D., D.D., and Ph.D.), reporting that his known chronology did not allow enough time for him to have completed these degrees and that he had admitted to receiving them from a Colorado diploma mill.
    SOURCE: WIKIPEDIA

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    Default Dr> alberto rivera was not an ex jesuit


    Cornerstone Magazine's account
    According to the Cornerstone article:[1] Rivera had a 'history of legal entanglements' including fraud, credit card theft, and writing bad checks. Warrants had been issued for his arrest in New Jersey and Florida, and he was wanted by the Spanish police for 'swindles and cheats'; while in the USA in 1967, he claimed to be collecting money for a Spanish college, who never received this money. The details of his claims changed: In 1964 he said he had left the Catholic Church in July 1952, but he later put the date at March 20, 1967; despite this, he was still promoting Catholicism in a newspaper interview of August that same year. Although supposedly placed in the sanitorium in 1965 and held there for three months, he gave the date of his release as September 1967, leaving a period of over a year unaccounted for.
    The document exhibited by Rivera to prove his status as a Catholic priest was fraudulently obtained and the Catholic Church denies his claims of having been a Jesuit priest or a bishop. He had only one sister in London; she was not called Maria, was not a nun, and did not live in a convent. In an employment form dated 1963 he claimed marriage to Carmen Lydia Torres, and the couple had two children in the USA when his own account had him a celibate priest in Spain.
    Cornerstone also questioned Rivera's claim to various degrees, including three doctorates (Th.D., D.D., and Ph.D.), reporting that his known chronology did not allow enough time for him to have completed these degrees and that he had admitted to receiving them from a Colorado diploma mill.
    SOURCE: WIKIPEDIA

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    Default Source: Wikipedia

    Quote Originally Posted by Super Bisdak View Post
    I have read most of his testimonies published by Chick Publications. Halos dili ko makatoo sa iyang kuyaw nga experience as a Jesuit Priest, pero dunay pang-alkontra ang Vatican sa iyang mga statements. No offense to the Catholics, but personally I believe his statements are true. Nice find bro. God bless!
    Cornerstone Magazine's account
    According to the Cornerstone article:[1] Rivera had a 'history of legal entanglements' including fraud, credit card theft, and writing bad checks. Warrants had been issued for his arrest in New Jersey and Florida, and he was wanted by the Spanish police for 'swindles and cheats'; while in the USA in 1967, he claimed to be collecting money for a Spanish college, who never received this money. The details of his claims changed: In 1964 he said he had left the Catholic Church in July 1952, but he later put the date at March 20, 1967; despite this, he was still promoting Catholicism in a newspaper interview of August that same year. Although supposedly placed in the sanitorium in 1965 and held there for three months, he gave the date of his release as September 1967, leaving a period of over a year unaccounted for.
    The document exhibited by Rivera to prove his status as a Catholic priest was fraudulently obtained and the Catholic Church denies his claims of having been a Jesuit priest or a bishop. He had only one sister in London; she was not called Maria, was not a nun, and did not live in a convent. In an employment form dated 1963 he claimed marriage to Carmen Lydia Torres, and the couple had two children in the USA when his own account had him a celibate priest in Spain.
    Cornerstone also questioned Rivera's claim to various degrees, including three doctorates (Th.D., D.D., and Ph.D.), reporting that his known chronology did not allow enough time for him to have completed these degrees and that he had admitted to receiving them from a Colorado diploma mill.

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    ^^ cause when they own the information oh they can bend it all they want.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grovestreet View Post
    ^^ cause when they own the information oh they can bend it all they want.
    I don't think WIKIPEDIA is biased to the catholic church and besides black propaganda is the main weapon of the protestants against the catholic church.

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    and wikipidia is the best source for research?

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    never take everything hook, line & sinker
    Audentes Fortuna Juvat

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    Quote Originally Posted by grovestreet View Post
    and wikipidia is the best source for research?
    It is one of the best sources so far. Remember the founder is an ATHEIST pa gyud!!!

    Wikipedia is an online encyclopedia founded by entrepreneur and atheist Jimmy Wales and philosophy professor Larry Sanger on January 15, 2001.

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