Second Look on Islam

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hahahahahaha!

tabangan nako nila oh...hehehehehe!

@breadfox

gitubag na taka oi wala lang ka nakakita sa akong tubag...basin sakto akong giingon nga nalibat naka...

dili na mocking ha...opinion ra na...hehehehehe!

uneducated.......tsk3x OT na au ta.

2nd look on Islam ang title sa thread. Kani na thread gi explain lang sa mga muslims na Islam is not a bad religion. daghan lang jd ni misinterpret sa ila quran and daghan sad ni misunderstood sa ila cultures and beliefs. Kng mo basa gani mo something be open minded, dili mo mo basa and learn sa uban religion just to find faults. Why not learn the good teachings rather than find the flaws of a religion. No religion is perfect. Who are we to judge kng unsa ang perfect and nindot na religion.

[jofox]

salam malaykum.....chek to ninyo sa al imran 3:85 "at sinumang maghangad ng relihiyon maliban sa islam, kailanman hindi ito tatanggapin sa kanya,at sa kabilang buhay siya ay mabibilang sa mga taong talunan"

[Malic]

huh? si Muhammad nang naa sa Deutoronomy 18? toinks!

atong ibutang ang verse ha kung si Muhammad ba jud ni:

Deu 18:18 I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him.

Deu 18:19 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever will not hearken unto my words which he shall speak in my name, I will require it of him.

si Muhammad na? kinsa may saksi ni Muhammad nga siya na? mangangkon pud ai...

awa akong saksi ha si John nga usa ka apostol...awa ang iyang gisuwat:

Joh 17:8 For I have given unto them the words which thou gavest me; and they have received them, and have known surely that I came out from thee, and they have believed that thou didst send me.

Joh 8:28 Then said Jesus unto them, When ye have lifted up the Son of man, then shall ye know that I am he, and that I do nothing of myself; but as my Father hath taught me, I speak these things.

Joh 12:49 For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak.

Joh 12:50 And I know that his commandment is life everlasting: whatsoever I speak therefore, even as the Father said unto me, so I speak.

muingon napud ka nga corrupt na unya inyo ra jud ang dili?ngeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

ngangkon man si Muhammad!LOL!



toinks! kaagi kuno ni David...hahahahaha!

sa ato pa gibuslutan diay ang kamot ug tiil ni David?

akong balikon ang verse ha:

Psa 22:16 For dogs have compassed me: the assembly of the wicked have inclosed me: they pierced my hands and my feet.

Psa 22:17 I may tell all my bones: they look and stare upon me.

Psa 22:18 They part my garments among them, and cast lots upon my vesture.

nahitabo diay nang David? awa ang nahitabo ni Jesus Christ ha:

Mat 27:35 And they crucified him, and parted his garments, casting lots: that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophet, They parted my garments among them, and upon my vesture did they cast lots.

nakabasa ka anang red? gi prophesy na kana sa mga prophet oi...

dia pa ang mga verses oh:

Mar 15:24 And when they had crucified him, they parted his garments, casting lots upon them, what every man should take.

Luk 23:33 And when they were come to the place, which is called Calvary, there they crucified him, and the malefactors, one on the right hand, and the other on the left.

see? ang proof nga si Cristo jud na itaas lang ang verse:

Psa 22:6 But I am a worm, and no man; a reproach of men, and despised of the people.

nahitabo kana ni Cristo sa dihang gilansang siya sa krus...ari ta sa chapter 7-8 ha:

Psa 22:7 All they that see me laugh me to scorn: they shoot out the lip, they shake the head, saying,

Psa 22:8 He trusted on the LORD that he would deliver him: let him deliver him, seeing he delighted in him.

mao nay gidangatan ni Cristo kadtong naa siya sa krus...giinsulto siya sa mga tawo awa ha:

Mat 27:42 He saved others; himself he cannot save. If he be the King of Israel, let him now come down from the cross, and we will believe him.

Mat 27:43 He trusted in God; let him deliver him now, if he will have him: for he said, I am the Son of God.

see?

nagkasinabot lagi ang OT ug ang NT? nya kaning Quran kinsa may musuporta ani?

hmmmmm......

In other words para nimo si Jesus ni ang gi storyahan sa Deut? atong tan-awon UNYA.

Yes kaagi na ni David nga gi pugos ninyo pagsulod nga kunuhay prophesy about ni Jesus. Wala ta kabalo David was a warrior and as a warrior syempre masamad pod na sila ug magisi pod na ilang sinina.


The writers of the new testament copied it from the Old testament to make it look like a fulfilled prophesy. Just like what you mentioned previously, about the virgin birth and the child will be called Emmanuel,hehe,Jesus was not named Emmanuel. But you guys want to manipulate this verse and mke it look like a Messainic prophesy. Same case with the Psalm of David. When David wrote this Psalm, Israel was on an exile. They were away from their land and from their temple in Jerusalem.

One writer wrote his comment about this Pslam..."The overall theme of Psalms 22 depicts the plight of the Jew who, as an individual, prays for an end to Israel’s long exile from its land and from the Temple in Jerusalem. A reading of this psalm in the original Hebrew or in a correct translation reveals that King David is its author (Ps 22:1) and that he is the "voice" throughout. David describes his own pain, anguish, and longing during those times when he was a fugitive from his enemies. Consequently, this is an historical rather than a messianic psalm. When he refers to himself as a worm (Ps 22:7[6]), a helpless creature, whose only salvation can come from G-d, it becomes abundantly clear that the author does not consider himself to be someone who can provide salvation, and certainly not one who is divine!."


By the way the Jewish scholars who are more well verse in Hebrew have a different interpretation for this Psalm and remember that before the Christian era early jews understood this Psalm as a prayer to end Israel's long exile.

[Malic]

kinsa laging propetaha ang mu 2nd the motion aning Muhammad lagi? wala jud kay maipakita nako BISAN USA?

ngangkon pud ka sa Deut 18 nga mao to si Muhammad...toinks!

FYI lang noh, ang bible is a compilation of books from different prophets, evangelists, apostles in different times. mao nay nakanindot sa bible kay bisan pila ka centuries na ang gilay on sa mga propeta ngadto sa mga apostoles, nagkasinabot gihapon sila...

ang Quran kinsa may musuporta ana? gasolo raman na wala may mudepensang propeta sa Ginoo ana...

hmmmm...

toinks! imo mang i compare ang husgado sa kalibutan ug husgado sa Ginoo...

unsay nawala ang original bible? so buot nimong ipasabot nawala na jud ang pulong sa Ginoo sa una unya ang nipuli ang Quran?

ngek!

600AD ra nitunga wala pa jud suporta sa mga propeta nga mu auntheticate aning Quran unya maoy tanood?

you make me laugh...

kinsang propetaha paghuwat inig explain nako sa Deutoronomy.


FYI pod sir noh, ang bible is a compilation of corrupted and manipulated books,proven by your own CHRISTIAN SCHOLARS(ikaw pod ni angkon baya ka nga corrupted na ang bible),also contained contradictions and insertions discovered by honest scholars.


ang husgado sa kalibotan di mudawat ug corrupted nga data, fyi,imo pasabot nga mo dawat ang Ginoo ug corrupted nga data?



There are external and internal evidence to support the authenticity of the Qur'an.


Wala diay ka kabalo nga nawala na ang original nga bible? na hala pagtoon pa ug maayo.


The Qur'an can stand alone and besides you want to use the CORRUPTED bible as a criteria to judge the authenticity of the Qur'an. Asa gud ka anang prinsipyoha.


Go ahead laugh...unsa may naa anang mo katawa ka. maayo unta to nga sakto ng imong mga ponto kay mag worry jud ko kung magkatawa ka. Pero sa imong gi pakita nga mga rason nya mo ingun pa jud ka nga "you make me laugh" hahaha,mura jud ka ug korek sir. Dont ever think that your argument contains something relevant. Naa pay logic nimo nga wala ngari wala didto asa kaha na nimo punita sir?

[Malic]

Naa na sir ang imong gihuwat,pag andam ha.


In Deuteronomy 18, Moses stated that God told him: “I will raise up for them a prophet like you from among their brothers; I will put my words in his mouth, and he will tell them everything I command him. If anyone does not listen to my words that the prophet speaks in my name, I myself will call him to account.” (Deuteronomy 18:18-19).


A prophet like who? a prophet like Moses. So si Moses ang atong criteria ha. So tan-awon nato kung si Jesus "like" Moses ba or si Muhammad "like" Moses ba.

Kinsa si Moses?

1)Si Moses gi pakatawo nga wala sa podir sa iyang ginikanan.

Si Jesus natawo ba gawas sa podir sa iyang ginikanan? NOPE. Mary and his Foster Fathert was there right beside him.

Si Muhammad gi pakatawo ba gawas sa podir sa iyang ginikanan? YES. ang nag took care sa iya ang iyang mga uncles ug ang iyang Granpa.

So kinsa man nilang duha ni Jesus and Muhammad ang mas LIKE ni Moses? of kors si Muhmmad.


2)Si Moses ni lead ug mga tribo nya gi osa ni niya haron mahimong nasud.

Si Jesus ni lead ba to ug mga tribu nya gi osa(unite) niya unya naghimo ba to siya ug osa ka nasod? WALA.


Si Muhammad ni lead ba ug mga tribu nya ki osa niya ug gihimo niya ug nasud? YES. in fact it was not just a nation that he built but an empire.

So kinsa man ang mas LIKE ni Moses? Si Jesus o Muhammad? of kors si Muhammad


3) Si Moses gihatagan ug Laws ug mga code sa pang gobyerno.

Si Jesus anaa ba to siyay Laws nga gihatag para sa tokoron nga gobyerno(wa man gani toy gobyerno nga natukod si Hesus)

Si Muhammad naa bay natukod nga gobyerno? YES.

So kinsa mas LIKE ni Moses,Si hesus o si Muhammad? of kors si Muhammad.


4)Si Moses naay mga Asawa.

Si Jesus ba naay asawa? NOPE ni osa wala.

Si Muhammad naa bay mga asawa? YEs.

So si kinsa man ang mas like unto MOses? Si Hesus o si Muhammad? of kors si Muhammad


karun with all the points i showed here kinsa man ang fulfillment aning Deutoronomy 18? si Jesus,kalayo ra. of Kors none other than The prophet Muhammad(SAW).

[badmouse]

i just finished reading all the post. Na sakit jud akong ulo. Maypa walay religion. Me peaceful pa ta tanan. IMHO.

[Pein]

In other words para nimo si Jesus ni ang gi storyahan sa Deut? atong tan-awon UNYA.

nihatag nako nimo sa mga verses nga si Jesus Christ nang fulfillment sa Deut. 18...i know dili ka mudawat sa mga verses pero ako lang i post diri dili para imo kundi para sa mga mubasa diri...

ako sang i post ang Deut 18 ha:

Deu 18:18 I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him.

asa mugawas ang usa ka propeta nga pareho ni Moses? sa Israel ra pud!

si Muhammad Israelita to?

diha palang daan tagak na ang imong propeta...

awa ang fulfullment ha:


Joh 17:8 For I have given unto them the words which thou gavest me; and they have received them, and have known surely that I came out from thee, and they have believed that thou didst send me.

the same sa giingon sa Deut 18:18 "and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him."

dia pa ang verse:

Joh 4:25 The woman saith unto him, I know that Messias cometh, which is called Christ: when he is come, he will tell us all things.

the same sa Deut 18:18 "I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren"

dia pa ang verse:

Joh 12:49 For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak.

Joh 12:50 And I know that his commandment is life everlasting: whatsoever I speak therefore, even as the Father said unto me, so I speak.

the same sa giingon sa Deut 18:18 "and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him."

kinsa ang nag ingon ana? si John...first hand nga nakawitness ni Cristo.

Joh 1:15 John bare witness of him, and cried, saying, This was he of whom I spake, He that cometh after me is preferred before me: for he was before me.

si John ang usa ka saksi sa mga gibuhat ni Cristo...nakakita mismo si John sa mga binuhatan ni Cristo...

nya si Muhammad kinsa may musaksi ana? Si Moses? toinks! hagbay rang patay si Moses oi ngangkon pud mo dayon sa Deut. 18 dah...

presentado alsado nang inyong propeta bro...

Yes kaagi na ni David nga gi pugos ninyo pagsulod nga kunuhay prophesy about ni Jesus. Wala ta kabalo David was a warrior and as a warrior syempre masamad pod na sila ug magisi pod na ilang sinina.

huh? gipugos? awa ang verse ai:

Mat 27:35 And they crucified him, and parted his garments, casting lots: that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophet, They parted my garments among them, and upon my vesture did they cast lots.

unsa man diay ang giingon sa mga prophet nga na fulfill ni Cristo?

Psa 22:18 They part my garments among them, and cast lots upon my vesture.

see? pareho sa giingon ni Matthew..."They parted my garments among them, and upon my vesture did they cast lots."

gipugos diay na namo nga igo raman na namo nabasahan?

magisi ang sinina? unya kung magisi isugal diay? awa tong sinina nga gisuot ni Cristo gigisi ug gisugalan haom kaayo sa prophecy(Psa 22:1

kung dili ka mutuo nga prophecy na aw imo pud na way pugsanay...ang katingalahan lang kanang imong Muhammad propeta man kaha na pero walay musaksi...

The writers of the new testament copied it from the Old testament to make it look like a fulfilled prophesy. Just like what you mentioned previously, about the virgin birth and the child will be called Emmanuel,hehe,Jesus was not named Emmanuel. But you guys want to manipulate this verse and mke it look like a Messainic prophesy. Same case with the Psalm of David. When David wrote this Psalm, Israel was on an exile. They were away from their land and from their temple in Jerusalem.

toinks! kadaghan rag pangalan ni Cristo sa bible ah!

usa nang Emmanuel kay ang meaning sa Emmanuel "God with us"...

Mat 1:23 Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.

ni 2nd the motion si John ana:

Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Joh 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

see? duha na ang saksi ni Cristo...si Matthew ug John...

si Muhammad kinsay saksi? si Moses? toinks!

One writer wrote his comment about this Pslam...[b]"The overall theme of Psalms 22 depicts the plight of the Jew who, as an individual, prays for an end to Israel’s long exile from its land and from the Temple in Jerusalem. A reading of this psalm in the original Hebrew or in a correct translation reveals that King David is its author (Ps 22:1) and that he is the "voice" throughout. David describes his own pain, anguish, and longing during those times when he was a fugitive from his enemies. Consequently, this is an historical rather than a messianic psalm. When he refers to himself as a worm (Ps 22:7[6]), a helpless creature, whose only salvation can come from G-d, it becomes abundantly clear that the author does not consider himself to be someone who can provide salvation, and certainly not one who is divine!."

kinsa na nga writer? reliable kaha na? dis a na nimo punita?

unsa man ka oi pataka man lang ka ug punit dili man ka mangita sa authenticity anang tawhana...

By the way the Jewish scholars who are more well verse in Hebrew have a different interpretation for this Psalm and remember that before the Christian era early jews understood this Psalm as a prayer to end Israel's long exile.

aw ila pud nang interpretation...kami wala man mi mu interprete sa bible igo raman namo gibasa...

kanang imong Muhammad maoy kwestyunable kinsa kahay saksi ana mu verify sa pagka propeta anang tawhana...si Moses? ngangkon pud mo dah!

kinsang propetaha paghuwat inig explain nako sa Deutoronomy.


FYI pod sir noh, ang bible is a compilation of corrupted and manipulated books,proven by your own CHRISTIAN SCHOLARS(ikaw pod ni angkon baya ka nga corrupted na ang bible),also contained contradictions and insertions discovered by honest scholars.

unya ang Quran dili corrupt? ngek! wala man gani ni authenticate nga propeta sa Ginoo nang inyong libro ug propeta nikalit man lang na ug tunga...

ngangkon pud dayon sa prophesy...hahahahaha!

ang husgado sa kalibotan di mudawat ug corrupted nga data, fyi,imo pasabot nga mo dawat ang Ginoo ug corrupted nga data?

unya ang tibuok bible diay corrupted na diay? kung corrupted na ang tibuok bible, nganong nigamit man ka sa Deut 18:18?

sa ato pa ang imong source corrupted diay...hahahahaha!

There are external and internal evidence to support the authenticity of the Qur'an.

asa man? kinsa man?

siguradua ha reliable nang imong saksi basin dis a napud na nimo punita...

Wala diay ka kabalo nga nawala na ang original nga bible? na hala pagtoon pa ug maayo.

unsa nga original bible? literal imong pasabot? aw natural wala na jud roy original copies nga gikan jud mismo sa mga suluguon sa Ginoo PERO ANG PULONG SA GINOO NAA PA GIHAPON...

kay kung muingon kag wala na kahibulungan lang nigamit ka sa Deut 18:18...

The Qur'an can stand alone and besides you want to use the CORRUPTED bible as a criteria to judge the authenticity of the Qur'an. Asa gud ka anang prinsipyoha.

can stand alone?

kay nigamit man kag husgado ganina ako pud nang gamiton ha...mubarog kaha ka sa husgado kung ikaw rang usa wala kay saksi?

toinks!

Go ahead laugh...unsa may naa anang mo katawa ka. maayo unta to nga sakto ng imong mga ponto kay mag worry jud ko kung magkatawa ka. Pero sa imong gi pakita nga mga rason nya mo ingun pa jud ka nga "you make me laugh" hahaha,mura jud ka ug korek sir. Dont ever think that your argument contains something relevant. Naa pay logic nimo nga wala ngari wala didto asa kaha na nimo punita sir?

ako pud na bro ayaw pagbuot sa akong katawa...kung dili ka ganahan sa akong katawa tan awa lang akong punto...

Naa na sir ang imong gihuwat,pag andam ha.

In Deuteronomy 18, Moses stated that God told him: “I will raise up for them a prophet like you from among their brothers; I will put my words in his mouth, and he will tell them everything I command him. If anyone does not listen to my words that the prophet speaks in my name, I myself will call him to account.” (Deuteronomy 18:18-19).


A prophet like who? a prophet like Moses. So si Moses ang atong criteria ha. So tan-awon nato kung si Jesus "like" Moses ba or si Muhammad "like" Moses ba.

like Moses nga unsa? ayaw putla ang verse bro naa pa gani "comma (,)" naunsa ba ka oi...wala pa gani butangi ug "period (.)" ang verse imo dayong giputol...mao nay klarong pangilad...

akong i post ug balik ang verse ha:

Deu 18:18 I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him.

see? naa pay sumpay bro maong ayaw putla ang sentence para idasok nang imong propeta...

nganong pareho man ni Moses ning mugawas nga propeta? kay ibutang man sa baba anang propetaha ang pulong sa Ginoo SAMA SA NAHITABO NI MOSES.

Exo 4:12 Now therefore go, and I will be with thy mouth, and teach thee what thou shalt say.

see? pareho jud sa giingon sa Deut. 18:18 nga "and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him."

awa ang nahitabo ni Jesus Christ pareho ra sa nahitabo ni Moses nga: "For I have given unto them the words which thou gavest me;" John 17:8

ang nagsuwat si John...eyewitness ni Cristo...

si Muhammad kinsay eyewitness?

toinks!

Kinsa si Moses?

1)Si Moses gi pakatawo nga wala sa podir sa iyang ginikanan.

Si Jesus natawo ba gawas sa podir sa iyang ginikanan? NOPE. Mary and his Foster Fathert was there right beside him.

Si Muhammad gi pakatawo ba gawas sa podir sa iyang ginikanan? YES. ang nag took care sa iya ang iyang mga uncles ug ang iyang Granpa.

So kinsa man nilang duha ni Jesus and Muhammad ang mas LIKE ni Moses? of kors si Muhmmad.

THIS PROVES NOTHING!

2)Si Moses ni lead ug mga tribo nya gi osa ni niya haron mahimong nasud.

Si Jesus ni lead ba to ug mga tribu nya gi osa(unite) niya unya naghimo ba to siya ug osa ka nasod? WALA.


Si Muhammad ni lead ba ug mga tribu nya ki osa niya ug gihimo niya ug nasud? YES. in fact it was not just a nation that he built but an empire.

So kinsa man ang mas LIKE ni Moses? Si Jesus o Muhammad? of kors si Muhammad

THIS PROVES NOTHING!

kadaghan rag leader sa tribe sa Israel ah ayaw kog ingna muhaom pud nila ang prophesy kay tungod leader ug tribo...

3) Si Moses gihatagan ug Laws ug mga code sa pang gobyerno.

Si Jesus anaa ba to siyay Laws nga gihatag para sa tokoron nga gobyerno(wa man gani toy gobyerno nga natukod si Hesus)

Si Muhammad naa bay natukod nga gobyerno? YES.

So kinsa mas LIKE ni Moses,Si hesus o si Muhammad? of kors si Muhammad.

THIS PROVES NOTHING!

4)Si Moses naay mga Asawa.

Si Jesus ba naay asawa? NOPE ni osa wala.

Si Muhammad naa bay mga asawa? YEs.

So si kinsa man ang mas like unto MOses? Si Hesus o si Muhammad? of kors si Muhammad

THIS PROVES NOTHING!

karun with all the points i showed here kinsa man ang fulfillment aning Deutoronomy 18? si Jesus,kalayo ra. of Kors none other than The prophet Muhammad(SAW).

hilaw imong mga punto bro...giputol pa jud nimo ang Deut 18:18 para idasok ang propeta nimo sa prophecy....

padayuna ang verse bro ayaw putla...ug kahibulungan pud bro corrupted man kaha ang bible pero nigamit ka sa Deut 18:18 para ipasok nang imong propeta nga walay saksi...

kasabot nako sa inyong pagtuo bro...kung unsa gani naa sa bible nga muuyon sa inyong pagtuo ok mo. pero kung mu contradict na gani sa inyong pagtuo palusot dayon mog "corrupted"...

pure brainwashing...

[rinnnie]

Islam is a stupid religion
Muslims are stupid, idiotic, baho

Islam is the mask of the religion of satan.

MUSLIM MGA DEMONYO!!!

[tokidoki_v2.0]

Ahem, Malic, you know the drill.

[Malic]

@

hmmm you know who you are.

Dawatun nato sir kung sakto jud ang pagkatukma sa prophesy APAN pagka dakong APAN,ang prophesy sa Deutoronomy dili man tukma sa gi ingun nga "a prophet like you(Moses)" sa pag ASAWA lang daan hagbong na si Hesus kay wa man toy asawa so unsaon man pagka a prophet like Moses si Hesus. dili puede so ayaw pugsa,osba ug basa katong mga ponto nga akong gihatag didto,klaro kaau nga wa jud mo sakar ang prophesy para kang hesus apan sakar kaau ngadto kang Muhammad(SAW).


LOLZ, mao ra nay imong matubag--"This proves nothing". This proves nothing gud intawn,ka klaro ana. Aw para nimo this proves nothing unsaon taman diha ra man jud kutob imong abilidad. Mas maau unta sir nga pag sulti nimo ug this proves nothing,naa pod unta kay counter argument,pero wala man koy nakita.

naay attempt nimo to give a counter argument,atong e examine..."kadaghan rag leader sa tribe sa Israel ah ayaw kog ingna muhaom pud nila ang prophesy kay tungod leader ug tribo..."--- kuwang jud ka sir,akong sulti leader ug mga tribo nga nagtukod ug nasod nya adunay pang gobyerno nga gi patuman,wa na ratol na.hehe


atong tukion kining phrase nga "from among their brethren" FYI sir, si Muhammad gikan sa lahi ni Abraham sama ni Moses nga gikan sa lahi ni Abraham. LOLZ.


dili na lang na nako tukion ng obang mga bersikulo nga imong gi pang post diha kay lihis kaau na sa subject at hand.

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Kinsa nga writer? ug asa nako ni punita? Hebrew scholar na sir,ayaw pagtuga tuga kay kamong mga ADD wa jud moy na produce nga scholar . In other words, wa moy scholar nga mo hatag ug saktong depensa ug pagtoon sa bibliya.Kana inyong mga baruganan kinopya sa laing denominations.


kung corrupted na ang tibuok bible, nganong nigamit man ka sa Deut 18:18?sa ato pa ang imong source corrupted diay...hahahahaha! toink,nigamit ra ko ana haron sa pagpakita nimo nga kana nga verse dili na muhaom kang hesus MAS muhaom pa na kang Muhammad,getz sir. but i am in no way would use it to prove the authenticity of Muhammad's prophethood.


kay nigamit man kag husgado ganina ako pud nang gamiton ha...mubarog kaha ka sa husgado kung ikaw rang usa wala kay saksi? kadaghang saksi nianang Qur'an. nganung mohatag man ka ug limitation,dili na sakto. Mo ingun ka nga kinsang propetaha sa bible ang saksi ,kapila naman ko ga sulti nimo nga ayaw gamita ang CORRUPTED nga bible to discredit the AUTHENTICITY sa Quran,kay corrupted gud na wala na nay reliability so unsaon man na nimo paghimong entry to discredit the Qur'an's claimed on Muhammad's prophethood.


like Moses nga unsa? ayaw putla ang verse bro naa pa gani "comma (,)" naunsa ba ka oi...wala pa gani butangi ug "period (.)" ang verse imo dayong giputol...mao nay klarong pangilad...

akong i post ug balik ang verse ha:

Deu 18:18 I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him.

see? naa pay sumpay bro maong ayaw putla ang sentence para idasok nang imong propeta...

nganong pareho man ni Moses ning mugawas nga propeta? kay ibutang man sa baba anang propetaha ang pulong sa Ginoo SAMA SA NAHITABO NI MOSES.

Exo 4:12 Now therefore go, and I will be with thy mouth, and teach thee what thou shalt say.

see? pareho jud sa giingon sa Deut. 18:18 nga "and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him."

awa ang nahitabo ni Jesus Christ pareho ra sa nahitabo ni Moses nga: "For I have given unto them the words which thou gavest me;" John 17:8

ang nagsuwat si John...eyewitness ni Cristo...

si Muhammad kinsay eyewitness

wala ka na putla oi,ako ra gipakita nimo ang mga importanteng ponto. Good nga imo ning gi brought up nga issue. Kay ang Ginoo gibutang man jud sa baba ni Muhammad ang iyang mga pulong. So again mas sakar ni nga prophesy sa kang Muhammad kaysa kang Hesus.


Then kana laging Immanuel,ang name ni Jesus dili lagi Immanuel,klaro man kaau sulti sa Isaiah nga and He will be CALLED Emmanuel. ayaw lagi e twist,ug ayaw e manipulate.


Nya sir cge man ka ug hisgut ug witness noh,so akong pangutana mao ni...kato silang mga old testament prophet nakakita to sila ni Hesus nakakita sila sa nahimugso si Hesus sa sabakan sa osa ka birhen? Kung wala nya kalro man jud nga wala to sila kita matawag ba nato to sila nga matud pa nimo EYEWITNESS,nya kanang mga bersikulo nga imong gi pang quote diha sama sa John ug Matthews kita ni sila sa pagka himugso ni Hesus sa sabakan sa osa ka birhen nga babaye? Wala jud sir,in fact kining four gospels questionable kaau ang authors ani. So unsaon man nimo pagtawag ani nga mga EYE-witness. hahaha.