Legalize Abortion?

[mo0nstar88]

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kamo mo gasto sa bata if naburos ang mama nga walay bisan ipakaon sa iyang kaugalingon? >.>
kinsa man mag antos inig dako sa bata? kamo?
see lots of street children in colon unsa man inyo ikaingon "hala ka luoy sa bata" mao bah?

[mannyamador]

and besides there are a lot of illegal abortions happening everywhere, so why the fuzz ??

Just because something happens often doesn't mean it's right. There's corruption and war happening all the time. Does that make it right? Of fourse not. You're reasoning is flawed.

It's better for it to die than to live as an unwanted child. In the long run, those unwanted children becomes juvenile delinquents and lost in society.

Who are you top judge whether ANOTHER person's life is worth living? That's an cowardly and arrogant attitude.

You are also assuming that a so-called "unwanted" child automatically becomes a juvenile delinquent. That's an unfounded assumption. Most DO NOT end up that way. And even if they did, NO ONE has the right to decide whether someone else's life is worth living.

[twentyone]

it should not be legalize pag patay nag bata nga walay sala - perti nang dakoa og sala sa ginou

[rob123]

kon pananglit ma parehas sa ako silingan ela anak wa bukton ug mga tiil. unsa kaha inyo ma huna2x kon kamo ang mahimo ginikanan ani nga bata bi. d maayo ang ABORTION supak sad ko ani,pero angay sad tale hatagan nato ug choice ug katungod ang mga tag tungod sa ela desisyon kon ipadayon ba nila or dili ang pag pa katawo sa maong bata nga kon matawo na unya ... kahibawo na ta unsa mahitabo ana nga bata. Use your coconut .

[carbrill]

mura ra sad ka mo ingon nga ok ra mo patay ang uban tao kay ang mama gani nakahimo nga patyon ang iya anak. if ma approved ni ang abortion dili sad ang answer sa problems... para ma lower ang maternal death rate kay proper education to the mothers about pregnancy and monthly check up para ma likayan ang complications sa panganak, di kanang abortion ang answer...

family planning using contraceptives ok ra ni himoon kay maka help ni sa family, pero mo ingon abortion, NEVER!

[chang]

.. those against abortion, you're not reading the prerequisites: (1) Due to incurable disease of mother or child;
(2) In cases of extreme deformity of the fetus;
(3.) In cases of rape. (Currently against Art. 258 ) But in cases where the rapist has communicable disease that would either lead to 1 & 2.


.. and besides there are a lot of illegal abortions happening everywhere, so why the fuzz ??

.. i'm in-favor of abortion, legal or not. If you "accidentally" made a child due to carelessness; not using a condom, didn't withdraw or faulty calendar method. And you don't want that child, then go ahead, have it aborted. It's better for it to die than to live as an unwanted child. In the long run, those unwanted children becomes juvenile delinquents and lost in society.

logically speaking, i admit that this is correct. pero inhumane gihapon ang abortion that's why against jud ko.

[colossus]

^^ I am afraid others might just use the reason as a tool to circumvent abortion laws, if there would be any in the future. One can just say she was raped or there is something wrong in the fetus hence it would be better if the baby will be aborted. That would really be murder for all intents and purposes.

I guess we would just encourage more killings if we will legalize abortion. More so, it would really be anarchy in our morality if we will legalize it. Leave something for our conscience, if I may say.

[cottonmouth]

you have a point there... but to totally legalize it? dili pud ko favor...

dili lang sya ilegalize but to give a right to certain cases (as mentioned above)...

This is where the word "legalize" is misrepresented by the anti-abortion side gyud brod. Technically, gyud "legalizing" is putting restrictions. The restrictions is what you need when you said "give right to certain cases".

If you remember before, Capital Punishment is a legal type of punishment against heinous crimes in the Philippines. However, legalizing killing by way of Capital Punishment didn't mean that murder and homicide were normalized then. Capital Punishment requires a lot of conditions before it is implemented.

To say the least, legalized abortion has a given advantage in certain circumstances. This is where the law comes in. What the anti-abortion group have done is an appeal to fear and religious preferences of the people by posting photos that we don't know if it is adulterated or not. That is not the proper way to make an objective law. Once again, the Philippines is composed of peoples with different religious beliefs and fundamental needs. Therefore, the laws of the state must be made without any preference to a certain group. In this case the law governing abortion should be empirical and not be based on empathy.

As @rob123 have said, there are cases when there is an extreme deformation of the fetus that will make lives harder to both the child and the parents. This is the case where the decision should rest with the parents and not with the state. Right now the current law means the decision is with the state: that is short of being in a communist/totalitarian regime. By legalizing abortion, the fate of the deformed fetus now is given back to the very family or parent that will have the burden of raising it. That is democracy in practice.

[mannyamador]

The pro-abortion forces like to play with words, as usual. We all know what legalization means: to allow wider use or acceptance of abortion. It is about REMOVING restrictions, not the other way around.

The only time one can say restrictions are imposed is when NEW restrictions are added to PREVIOUSLY-LEGALIZED abortion. That is clearly NOT the case.

It is always in the interests of the state to have laws concerning the preservation of life. Leaving such decisions with families is not necessarily democratic. It is, in fact, more anarchistic.

If we follow the silly logic that life-and-death decisions should be with families in order to be more democratic, then we should apply the same standard to murder and other crimes against persons. That is stupid and absurd, hence the logic is also stupid and absurd.

[carbrill]

sa medical field, there are circumstances that abortion is allowed, if (being pregnant) this will endanger the life of the mother or the fetus is already dead... or the fetus won't survive inside the womb of the mother... exception ni cya sa illegal abortion... legal ni cya nga aspect... but once u say nga "legalized abortion", pwedi na mag pa abort ug babies bisag dili angay ipa abort;kay tungod di planned ang baby or di pa ka ready so pwedi naka mag pa abort since legal na man ang abortion...

mao na ang ila gi likayan nga basn pwedi na ni ma reason nga ipa abort ang fetus kay legal na man ang abortion...